Adam Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Thread Index - NB: this index has been broken by the software upgrade. It took quite a lot of work to do and I will not be updating it to make the links work again. Please accept my apologies but use this as an indication of what's in here *somewhere*. This index is prepared by vehicle type, rolling stock first and entries listed by the first mention in the thread. Coil wagons have ended up with their own section, and the odd mentions of locos (or the less interesting bit, if you will) are at the bottom. Modified RTR stock is generally indexed by manufacturer, other stock alphabetically by type with origins in brackets. ROLLING STOCK 16 tonners: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=860829 https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=868202 24 1/2 tonner (Parkside): http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-signal-box-sundries/page-37#entry2737462 Vac’ braked 16 tonner (dia. 1/108, Parkside/Rumney Models) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1192780 Bachmann anchor-mounted tank - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-anchors-away-modifying-a-Bachmann-tank-wagon/?p=2461060 Bachmann BDA to Bobol D (dia. 1/484) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=937091 Bachmann Covhop - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1366077 Bachmann Grain (dia. 1/271) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-open-season-plastic-5-planks/?p=2155898 Bachmann LNER van - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1116089 Bachmann Mk 1 corridors - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=2017705 Bachmann Mk 1 brakegear - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-a-weighbridge-from-merthyr-vale/?p=2074679 Bachmann Presflos - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1383177 BD container (Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1516597 BR brake, Hornby - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1842410 BR Fruit van (dia. 1/230 Parkside PC42) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-cambrians-mermaid-complete/?p=2597181 BR Iron Ore hopper (dia. 1/166, 51L) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-mineral-bitsas/?p=2471669 BR Mermaid (Cambrian) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-an-early-lms-brake-part-3/&do=findComment&comment=2594883 BR Palvan (dia. 1/211, Parkside and Rumney Models) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-iron-ore-travails/?p=2512054 BR 5 plank (dia. 1/039, Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-flatpack-plastic-lowmac-is-the-end-in-sight/?p=2155338 BR Prestwin (dia. 1/274, Aifix/Parkside/scratch) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-prestwin-take-2-the-original/?p=3155437 BR Prestwin (dia. 1/277, Airfix/Dapol) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-prestwin/?p=3112361 BR 21 ton hopper (dia. 1/146, Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-more-open-highs/?p=2374709 BR 21 ton mineral (dia. 1/107, Rumney/Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-a-rumney-chassis-for-a-21-tonner/?p=2450112 Catfish (Cambrian) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1893674 Clayliner tank (Tri-ang/Bachmann confection) – https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-an-early-lms-brake-m806/&do=findComment&comment=1118238 COILS – see below for their own section Conflat A - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1515683 Dogfish (Cambrian) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1924354 and a second one - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-a-lowmac-and-loads-moving-the-medics/?p=2097684 and now a third http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-hopper-and-hybar/?p=2497271 FM insulated container (Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-reworked-gw-fruit-complete/?p=2127232 Grampus (rebuilt Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=485354 GW Fruit - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=2007908 GW opens (modified Ratio) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-modernised-gwratio-opens/?p=2118904 and steel O30 (Cambrian) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-italian-interlude/?p=2581827 GW Open C (Ratio and Morgan Design/Scalefour Society) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-prestwin/?p=3112361 GW V23 (Ratio/PECO + Parkside by PECO, via Railway Modeller) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-making-the-most-of-magazine-freebies-gw-v23/?p=3440341 Herring (Cambrian kit) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/page-18#entry1823530 Hornby Hawksworth detailing - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=2033421 Hornby shunter’s truck (detailing) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1826651 ICI Chlorine tank (Hornby Dublo twinned with Rumney Models chassis) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-a-swindon-quickie-complete/?p=2531199 Italian Ferry Van - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-underneath-the-wheel-arches/?p=2183751 LMS CCT (Hornby) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1391056 LMS dia. 1828 (Cambrian/Rumney) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-clearing-the-backlog-iron-ore-hopper-done/?p=3060793 LMS dia. 1656(?) (Parkside, modified) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-an-early-lms-brake-m806/&do=findComment&comment=3476917 LNER 21 ton hopper (Hornby) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1858248 and again, with modifications - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-alphabet-soup-2-sja-bedford-j/?p=2448610 Monobloc tanks (ESSO, ‘TTV’s) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=997476 Palbricks (scratchbuilds) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=2009386 Pipe (Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=959459 PO steel slope-sided mineral (Parkside) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1726213 RCH minerals (Slaters, Cambrian) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1985566 Shockvan (BR plywood type, lot 3117, Rumney Models chassis) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1580684 SR dia. 1599 Borail - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-terrier-travails-5-nosejob/page-28#entry2241498 SR dia. 1375 – http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1366077 SR Lowmac dia 1681 (Lowmac SD, scratchbuild) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-mk-1-undergubbins-Bachmann-sk/?p=2081714 SR pent roof van - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-an-early-lms-brake-m806/&do=findComment&comment=1001962 SR Shock Open - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=797887 Trestrol AD in etched brass (Macgeordie kit) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-making-the-most-of-magazine-freebies-gw-v23/&do=findComment&comment=2036080 Warwell to Bogie Bolster B (Oxford Rail) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-warwell-to-bogie-bolster-b-1/page-38#entry2925352 COIL WAGONS Tinplate Coils (scratchbuilds): Coil H (using an AMBIS chassis etch) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-an-early-lms-brake-m806/&tab=comments#comment-774342 Coil R (using Rumney Models Bobol E detailing etch) - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1783907 WIRE/ROD COILS Coil S (scratchbuilds) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1506769 STRIP COILS Coil C - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1747030 Coil Js – http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1106292 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1755131 dmsmith’s Coil Js - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1221767 Coil K - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=938034 Dia. 1/403 (Rumney Models, bogie strip coil) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1230476 Merthyr Vale, Landsale Scratchbuilt weighbridge hut (Merthyr Vale colliery) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-coil-rs-bogie-tinplate-coil-wagons-lettered-by-railtec/?p=2073268 SUNDRIES 66xx (Bachmann regauged) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1401438 6999, Capel Dewi Hall (Bachmann regauged) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-flatpack-palbricks-side-sheets/?p=2176047 AEC Mercury - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=810422 Bedford Lomas Ambulance (Oxford Diecast) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-alphabet-soup-2-sja-bedford-j/?p=2416000 Bachmann Warship, D 824 Highflyer - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1791143 Brighton Terrier (Branchlines/Comet chassis) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1665332 Fordson Thames E3 (A 4x4 military ambulance, x 2) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-mk-1- undergubbins-Bachmann-sk/?p=2081714 Fordson N (Flightpath kit) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-evening-standard-fordson/?p=3197652 LMS standard signal box (Ratio and scratchbuilt) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-lineside-snaps/?p=2623619 NBL 0-4-0DH - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1642602 Small petrol store (breezeblock hut): http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-canal-junction-cabin-finished/?p=2840988 Styrene springs - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-complete/?p=2134199 Tanker catwalks - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1322055 Wagon hoods - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-trestrol-part-4/?p=1874952 Wheel arches/mudguards: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37002-adams-em-workbench-wagon-towing-machine-6999-capel-dewi-hall/page-27#entry2176291 Here begins the thread proper: [attachment=397830:Minfit13.gif] A long time ago (over a year in fact) I reported progress on a - mostly - scratchbuilt Shochood B which stalled pending thonghts on how to tackle the hood. In the end, I took a look at what the military modellers do - since tarpaulins turn up on softskins all the time - and used Miliput for the ends and tissue over a former for the remainder. The tarp's on these vehicles were tailored to fit neatly over the top and were always with the wagon which carried branding to that effect. here it is, painted and partly lettered. I'll have to see what dad's old Woodhead sheets have on them to finish the job: the HMRS sheets I have are utterly useless in this regard being without even a suitable selection of tare weights. [attachment=98684:Shochood2.gif] [attachment=98683:Shochoodend.gif] More on the blog... Adam Edited March 4, 2019 by Adam 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Hi Adam, A very nice wagon indeed! I do like to see a good bit of scratch-building. Did you make the chassis too? Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Hi Colin Thanks. The chassis is a bit of a hotch-potch. Full details can be found in the links to the blog on the OP, but the solebars/W-irons are from a Parkside 21 ton hopper (the hopper body resides on a Dave Bradwell etched chassis representing a re-bodied type) and everything else is from plastic sheet/section with ABS details. Quite what I am going to do with the sides/chassis of the 12 ton open which yielded its ends for this one, I've no firm idea... Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Just a bump to refer anyone interested to a new blog entry. For anyone interested, the subject - my first ever plastic wagon, a mark 1 Parkside Grampus - is shown below. Adam 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 That looks like a particularly fine piece of modelling. I would be a little worried about the lifespan of those steps in regular service especially following blackening and near invisibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) I would be a little worried about the lifespan of those steps in regular service especially following blackening and near invisibility. Thanks. They should be OK; the soldered joint is reasonably substantial (allowing for the size) since the angle was - after a couple of abortive attempts to do it prototypically by bending the L section through 90o - squashed with pliers and bent round into the appropriate orientation to support the step. There's a lot of solder in there too, including a fillet in the angle. The are also pinned - essential for these sort of things to have any life at all - by cutting down the angle to about 2mm and bending at right-angles to form a 'proper' fixing via a 0.5mm hole fixed with cyano'. That said, the door springs, with a similar area of fixing surface, but no pin, have happily survived for nearly fifteen years.Adam Edited August 4, 2013 by Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Since the following is old content - albeit so old, it first appeared on RMweb mk 3 (currently unavailable) - I thought it best to resurrect it as a part of a workbench thread. The current state of play will be on the blog shortly. I've long wanted a model of a class 74, otherwise known as big EDs or HBs, not because of any attachment to them - the last was scrapped the year I was born - or any particular charisma of the type, but simply because it was both different and quintessentially 'Southern' in ethos: not quite 'make-do-and-mend', but perhaps the next best thing. If you're not familiar with the prototype, these 10 machines were rebuilt at Crewe in 1967-8 from what became class 71 electrics to provide top-end power for Southampton and Weymouth boat trains - a sort of electro-diesel 'Merchant Navy' - but were relatively short-lived. A combination of poor reliability and the decline of this sort of traffic saw them all withdrawn in 1977 and scrapped by 1981. It pushes the envelope of my modelling period since I normally stop at the end of steam on the Southern, but not much else. This is a DC kits shell with some added detail, innards from a Bachmann Warship on Gibson wheels. Jim Smith-Wright has done something similar with his overhead electrics, though his description of them is lost either in the mega-thread that is 'P4 New Street', or somewhere on the archived forum. This shot of the chassis without the body should give you an idea: So far as the cosmetic details are concerned, the black components you can see are spares from the Heljan 33/1 and the bogie sideframes are a mix of scratchbuilt components and resin elements of the DC Kits parts. This detail would not have been possible without the help of Brian Daniels, so particular thanks to him for taking the trouble to photograph the bogies of the real thing on the Eastleigh scrapline and for making this photo available to me. No, it's still not finished... Adam 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Glad the bogie was useful Adam. That models looks superb. I wish someone would do a nice 7mm one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grovenor Posted January 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2012 I thought it was 7mm till I read it carefully, superb. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 That's looking really good Adam, lovely detail on the bogie sideframes. Arthur 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesmwatson Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Hi Adam, Nice work on the four wheeler. May I ask if the original tarps used on the prototype were made of canvas? If so, there's been some discussion on another site regarding modelling of canvas tarps. Some have had success with the humble teabag: http://www.vr-enthus...&t=360&start=70 Regards, Julian Edited January 4, 2012 by julesmwatson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 4, 2012 Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi Julian Thank you and thanks for the link, your tarp' is most effective. No, the tarp's on Shochood Bs were heavy duty synthetic things (Nylon?), tailored to the shape of the wagon and held on with integral clips, quite unlike the traditional wagon tarpaulin (in fact, they were treated as part of the wagon and the vehicles were branded accordingly). They owed more to modern lorry tarps and had a distinct sheen to them - as this Paul Bartlett shot shows - which is why I used satin paint. Conventional tarp's are much easier... Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julesmwatson Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi Adam, Thanks for the link - they do indeed have a very 'synthetic' appearance! I look forward to seeing some more of your works. Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks Julian, in case you haven't found them, there are a few entries on my blog. Plenty of wagons on there, some of them even finished... Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 A small update. Last night I managed to fret out a new motor bracket from nickel silver sheet. This will be screwed onto the chassis frame once I've arranged some means of dampening any vibration, almost certainly the judicious application of silicon sealant under the bracket... Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Some teaser shots of a work in progress. Points will be awarded for correct identification of the prototype... failing that, I'll provide answers later on. Adam Edited September 1, 2012 by Adam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Can't remember the code name, but it's one of the ex-Pig-Iron wagons converted for carrying coils, isn't it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Spot on Brian. This is the more sophisticated of the two variants, the Coil H, which had new sides and ends on the original floor, which was cut-down, and a fitted hood like the Shochood B. There were only 10 of these which had at least two different styles of door. The later, and simpler, conversions - shown here - lasted longer and were better recorded. This one is based on a modified Ambis chassis, two published photos and a dimensioned weight diagram. I can't vouch too much for its accuracy therefore, but it will be a bit different. The next job is manufacturing the floor supports and working out how to mate the plastic body with the metal chassis... Adam Edited September 1, 2012 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Some minor progress with this little project. The body is now attached to the chassis and the hood (a permanent feature of these vehicles when in traffic), or at least the form which will become the hood is built up. Next up, body detailing, strapping, hinges and so on. After that, making the hood look 'hoodlike'. Adam 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Spot on Brian. This is the more sophisticated of the two variants, the Coil H, which had new sides and ends on the original floor, which was cut-down, and a fitted hood like the Shochood B. There were only 10 of these which had at least two different styles of door. The later, and simpler, conversions - shown here - lasted longer and were better recorded. This one is based on a modified Ambis chassis, two published photos and a dimensioned weight diagram. I can't vouch too much for its accuracy therefore, but it will be a bit different. The next job is manufacturing the floor supports and working out how to mate the plastic body with the metal chassis... Adam I wonder why they went to such lengths with the rebuilding? The Coil fleet must have been the most varied part of BR's wagon fleet, with many of the conversions being relatively few in number- presumably each lot was for a particular flow. Even now, it is rare to see a homogenous train of coil wagons; the last one I saw at Cardiff consisted of at least five different wagon types. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I wonder why they went to such lengths with the rebuilding? The Coil fleet must have been the most varied part of BR's wagon fleet, with many of the conversions being relatively few in number- presumably each lot was for a particular flow. Even now, it is rare to see a homogenous train of coil wagons; the last one I saw at Cardiff consisted of at least five different wagon types. I've now seen as many photos of a model version of this type of wagon as I have seen shots of the prototype - I think, my only photo is in one of Jim Russell's books...... unless there is one lurking in one Dave Larkin's ?I don't recall seeing one in the flesh - which makes this project all the more interesting !Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) I wish I knew Brian(s). The relevant section of Paul Bartlett's website is really very extensive - but not comprehensive - and has lots of prototypes worth modelling which rather bears out your observation. http://paulbartlett....om/brsteelwagon These were converted in '64 I think, probably at Swindon - there's a work's picture of what I assume was the prototype [b744681] for the conversion in Jim Russell's 'Freight Wagons and Loads in Service on the GWR and Western Region' [Figure 38] which was even more complicated: three-part doors! The branding on that was 'Empty to SCOW Trostre and Velindre Works' so I guess that the others would have been similar in that respect. I hope dad's remaining Woodhead transfers will cater for this. The facing page, if I remember correctly, features a BR built steel medfit given similar treatment (that one was empty to Avonmouth Town). The weight diagram reproduced in Don Rowland's book concurs with the pair illustrated in Dave Larkin's 'Wagons of the Final Years of British Railways' so that's what I'm building. Applying the 'fixed', three-bar hoods to general merchandise and shock types seems to have been quite common at about the same time like this shock, for example: http://paulbartlett....52fd7#h30752fd7 Shortly afterwards the approach seems to have changed to bung a cradle in the bottom and a tarp (or two) on top. See this Coil C (another ex-Pig Iron type), for example. http://paulbartlett....56b97#h18df56d3 It at least makes the things easier to model/paint! Adam Edited September 10, 2012 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) By way of an update, see the pictures below: It's taken a little longer than it should to get to this stage because of the realisation that I'd made the body 1.5mm too long. Reconstructing it is simple enough even if it was somewhat irritating. Before you ask, yes, the difference is noticeable and since this is likely to be the only model anyone ever sees of the prototype I should at least make an attempt to make it correct! At the same time I added a detail I hadn't previously spotted: lamp irons. Goodness knows why a wagon with no continuous brake (or even a through pipe) should have such things but they're visible on the photo so here they are. Adam Edited September 19, 2012 by Adam 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Presumably, the general disinterest in this little wagon stems from it not being painted green having lots of wheels and Walschert's valvegear (or else Rail Blue and bogies). [joke] Still, I thought that some 'in-progress' showing the technique I'm using to replicate the tailored ends to the hood might be of interest since these were quite common on steel carrying wagons of this vintage and techniques used for 'normal' tarps don't quite cut it - I know because I've tried most of them when I was building my Shockhood! Now the reason for the peaked roof is obvious - it acts as a former to make the complete wagon durable and saves having to make the sheet rails fully details or properly functional - the wagon should never have moved without the sheet on so this detail is always hidden. Since I only have two pictures neither of which clearly show the ends I have little idea what these bits looked like anyway. My guess is probably something like this on the end of a Coil E (note that this wagon has lost its sheet rails): http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/warflatcoile/h6ed78fd#h2f1b8757 So after the sheet rails themselves went on, formers from tinned copper wire were added over the top. the semicircular ones represent the seam on the sheet - shown here on a Coil A: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/h90aacce#h106159cf The 'wiggly' bits represent the bottom of the sheet itself as a guide for what follows. The 'sheet' itself is added from Miliput (yes, this does look rough, but I just wanted the general outline at this stage, the second pass will smooth everything out and add more detail). the central section will be added using tissue in the familiar way. Adam 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Don't mistake lack of comment for lack of interest. This one is way outside my modelling zone but I'm watching anyway. This looks an interesting idea. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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