Titan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Should 16 tonners really be travelling this fast? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehscGltcDR0 Phil Another film of 16 tonners (6 different train loads) in the 1960s Richard And this is why it spoils it for me when freight trains are run unrealistically slowly at exhibitions. If you look at the second video at 5.51 there is a steam hauled example at similar speed to the first, why? cos that's the speed they were actually run at, not the 20mph crawl most layout operators seem to think is 'correct'! And for further reference, look at 6:57 on - that is the speed that fully fitted freights should be run at! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Also of interest (to me anyway) is that 'high capacity' (sorry don't know correct term) coal wagon next to the 8F at 5:30 in a rake of 16T wagons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Isn't that one of the LMS wagons built for a specific power station traffic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethashenden Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Of interest for the train formations including the variety of vans then still about and their variations in colours. It's really good to have footage of the whole train. So many people stop filming after the engine goes by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Nice clip of a string of grotty minerals behind a pristine 8F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77philg Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Also of interest (to me anyway) is that 'high capacity' (sorry don't know correct term) coal wagon next to the 8F at 5:30 in a rake of 16T wagons40 ton Side discharge hopper wagon Dia 1708 built for block trains from notts area to Stonebridge park power station London .Some pics and description in LMS wagons volume one Scrapped by 1966 on closure of power station phil Edited January 17, 2017 by 77philg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2017 0190 by Alan Curtis, on Flickr Snack Attack by Andrew Gallon, on Flickr New Lease Of Life by Andrew Gallon, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 40 ton Side discharge hopper wagon Dia 1708 built for block trains from notts area to Stonebridge park power station London. Some notes and illustrations by Steve Banks here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Not in colour, but hopefully still of interest: Copley Hill, Leeds 1963: https://www.flickr.com/photos/thanoz/2077521327/in/dateposted/ Denholme Station.1955. https://www.flickr.com/photos/thanoz/3144561820/in/dateposted/ A poor quality picture, but perhaps a different load? Perhaps scrap sleepers? Hard to tell! The goods yard layout and timber stacks might also give some ideas. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Bufferlocked http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=3&id=18238&gallery=Railways&offset=600 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Bufferlocked http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=3&id=18238&gallery=Railways&offset=600 Them 16tonners bin fighting again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 That first one of Copley hill, looks just like a model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 Spare Room by Andrew Gallon, on Flickr Train 565 (92---) by Bruce Grime, on Flickr Magazine 8 - 025_1 by Peter Heather, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 as Adam says, at Bank hall shed.... they went to Kirkby and this one has "to be returned when empty to water softening plant Southport" They went to Kirkby for what reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Sir John Mountain Ash2 12 October 1972 by snatmann, on Flickr 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Not so very long ago, in the top left hand corner of Wales there was an engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 D5697 & other, Stapleford & Sandiacre Mar 69 by Jonathan Martin, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) https://www.flickr.com/photos/110691393@N07/17173715462/in/album-72157638438054524/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/110691393@N07/12188321746/in/album-72157638438054524/ ...have we seen this cut of 16 tonners before? Edited February 3, 2017 by Axlebox 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 ...have we seen this cut of 16 tonners before? Another Charringtons coal lorry in LNWR land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 A Man in The Van by Iain Smith1, on Flickr 46464 Shunting Carmyllie Yard A by Iain Smith1, on Flickr Tondu Crossing - 2 by Stuart Warr, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 That last pic is really unmodellable. Great stuff! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2017 A tighter shot, but basically the same view today 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2017 Horninglow Warfe by Phil Waterfield, on Flickr 47643 Wesleys by Phil Waterfield, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 In the picture titled "47643 Wesleys" in the previous post, I thought it interesting that the top line of the data box appears to read MINERAL. Seems unusual to me, have noted the likes of MCO / MCV / COAL 16 (VB) but not MINERAL before. No, I haven't looked at Mr Bartletts archive so please don't shoot me if this happens to be a common marking - in that case I've simply not noticed it before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2017 In the picture titled "47643 Wesleys" in the previous post, I thought it interesting that the top line of the data box appears to read MINERAL. Seems unusual to me, have noted the likes of MCO / MCV / COAL 16 (VB) but not MINERAL before. No, I haven't looked at Mr Bartletts archive so please don't shoot me if this happens to be a common marking - in that case I've simply not noticed it before. MINERAL or just MIN pre dates the use of the TOPS codes MCO and MCV which were introduced in the 1970s. Some were labeled COAL, or if fitted with vacuum brakes COAL VB. Without trawling through hundreds of photos I am sure some vacuum braked examples were labeled MINFIT. The use of MINERAL and COAL came in to use post 1964 when the lettering on wagons started to be boxed. Many, if not most did not carry a code until the introduction of the TOPS codes. The wagon in the photo you refer to looks like one of the few that received bauxite livery in 1964 when some bright spark decided to swap the liveries around. Non fitted were grey, and fitted were bauxite up to 1964 when they changed so unfitted were bauxite and fitted grey, this lasted only a short while as someone sensible realised that swapping the liveries around only led to confusion when trains were being marshaled, so things were swapped back. The wagon in question is unfitted as it has bottom door "V" markings, no fitted wagons had bottom doors as the brake gear got in the way of the doors. I cannot see the number but I think this wagon is a Diagram 1/104. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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