KrisJ Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sorry - late replying to this one. Just found it on rmweb after googling Mobil storage depot Tile Hill. I lived across the other side of the tracks in Canley and I can remember class 40's going in to pick up the tanks, (I saw somwhere else that type 2's were used but I definitely saw type 4's). With the early advent of electrification on the WCML type 4's were probably spare to use. The tank wagons were a greyish silvery colour and not the bright red as depicted by Hornby. I would love to model these in the future with a class 40 in its proper colour - green. I found the appropriate Mobil symbols and would print it on to transfer paper. What I can't remember is if they had a brake van or would it have been fully fitted in the early/mid 60's? The road tankers were bright red though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Another good read on here.... cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdonyboyp Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Here is the old Esso Depot @ Leith Docks 1956 - LI839211@Esso Petroleum Co.JPG Esso Petroleum Co Depot at Leith Docks Edinburgh Date of photography: 15/06/1956 Date uploaded: 12/01/2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thanks for posting the photo of Obans 'other' oil depot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdonyboyp Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Thanks for posting the photo of Obans 'other' oil depot. No probs John, here is one you might like, most likely it was heading for the Esso plant @ Ayr Harbour where i spent many happy years, hard graft , we got a train of 16 railcars every wednesday and had to turn them around that day, it was all the prep to start with , gettin the lids open, water testing ,ullage check, and temperature taken.it is leaving Esso Bowling coming through Old Kilpatrick. Edited April 8, 2014 by bigdonyboyp 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Brilliant photo - thanks also for the information about the Ayr Harbour plant.. Pardon my ignorance but what was involved in an 'ullage check?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 When with Railfreight Distribution in 1997 I visited Morris Cowley. After the visit I dropped in on Littlemore. A single siding with a small ground frame. There was no run round so trains reversed in, then travelled to Morris Cowley to run round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Two images taken whilst on the way to Mallaig in the late 1990s. Any idea of which station? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Two images taken whilst on the way to Mallaig in the late 1990s. Any idea of which station? CNV00098.JPG It may be Fort-William, only place that i Know that would have a depot that size in that area ( Scottish oils - BP distriburors.) but i stand to be corrected. That's not Fort William, the station is two small, and looks like it is a through line. My first thought was an MOD oil terminal, but that is pure speculation on my part. Does any one know what Crianlarich, or Upper Tyndrum stations are like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Two images taken whilst on the way to Mallaig in the late 1990s. Any idea of which station? CNV00098.JPG CNV00099.JPG After looking on Google it is Connel Ferry, sorry about the mis-information about Mallaig. It must have been on day two of the trip after I had been to Oban. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Ullage check is dipping the railcar, to make sure no ---- has been tampering with it lol. Although they were sealed with wire and lead seal it was no prob to put it back together again, to be honest you were in such a hurry i never really bothered to much about them unless customs were lurking about. Thanks for the info. Were all tankers sealed this way after loading? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 In the early 1980's there was a freight from Tonbridge, I think it was 07h48. It was a Y path via Canterbury West or Folkestone to Ramsgate. When I was learning the road I went with the train via Folkestone East and I'm sure we detached some 100 tonners. Conveying heavy oil fuel for the Cross Channel Ferries. Any ideas where it was unloaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdonyboyp Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the info. Were all tankers sealed this way after loading? John, With the depot @ Ayr Harbour where i worked, it was a classed as a bonded warehouse, there were seals everywhere except in the loos, about the 2 nd week i was there customs came in early one morning, i was checking on the loading bays where i had 4 tankers all trying to get loaded and he noticed a seal broken at a valve under the gantries, he went ballistic and @ 9 o clock when the manager came in i was reported, 30 minutes later the gaffer , who was not a bad guy lectured me about how important it was to check all the seals before loading were intact( easy said when you got the drivers screaming @ you all wanting on their way) but added that he told him that the wire they used should be far stronger or words to that effect than what they were using, it ended there , think he was on my side lol. As for road tankers, in my days their meters were checked , not sure if it was 1 or 2 times a year and were sealed in the same way by trading standards, using the same flimsy wire, also if a seal got broken in any way they had to come and recalibrate the tanker and put new seals on. Bonded meant all the product in the storage tanks was duty free, it was duty paid on it once it came through the meters and onto the tankers. Edited April 9, 2014 by bigdonyboyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Bishopbriggs was served from Grangemouth, the outward trains ran via Cumbernauld and propelled into the sidings from Cadder Up Loop, while the return trains ran direct via Croy, thus avoiding any need to run round. IIRC the motive power was pairs of 37s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 No one seems to have mentioned the one at Doves Hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Bishopbriggs was served from Grangemouth, the outward trains ran via Cumbernauld and propelled into the sidings from Cadder Up Loop, while the return trains ran direct via Croy, thus avoiding any need to run round. IIRC the motive power was pairs of 37s. Is this Bishopbriggs? http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass37/e1753915e Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Paul, yes it is ! Although accessed from Cadder, AFAIK it was always known as Bishopbriggs Oil Terminal. Thanks for the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdonyboyp Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Bishopbriggs was served from Grangemouth, the outward trains ran via Cumbernauld and propelled into the sidings from Cadder Up Loop, while the return trains ran direct via Croy, thus avoiding any need to run round. IIRC the motive power was pairs of 37s. Bishopbriggs depot ATTACHMENTS Edited April 10, 2014 by bigdonyboyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 With the Murco refinery at Robeston up for sale, and its future in jeopardy - interest heightens in the only regular oil train out of South Wales the Cl.60 powered Robeston - Westerleigh / Theale. . Hard to believe how many paths were catered for during 1971/72, but this is what the WTT contained back then:- . 6M33 1715 Coy Hebrandston-Shrewsbury 6M34 2325 MX Coy Tidal Sidings-Soho Pool 6M37 2100 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M38 0600 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M39 1840 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M40 0335 MX Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis, Witton, Wednesbury or Spring Vale 6M41 1140 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M49 0955 Coy Waterston-Albion 6M50 1510 Coy Waterston-Albion 6M51 0500 Coy Waterston-Kingsbury 6M52 2025 Coy MX Waterston-Albion 6M53 0048 MX Coy Waterston-Albion IIRC Llandarcy was 'BP', Waterston was 'Gulf' as was the traffic from Cardiff Tidal. Not so sure about Hebrandston - Salop (Shrewsbury Abbey ?) . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 With the Murco refinery at Robeston up for sale, and its future in jeopardy - interest heightens in the only regular oil train out of South Wales the Cl.60 powered Robeston - Westerleigh / Theale. . Hard to believe how many paths were catered for during 1971/72, but this is what the WTT contained back then:- . 6M33 1715 Coy Hebrandston-Shrewsbury 6M34 2325 MX Coy Tidal Sidings-Soho Pool 6M37 2100 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M38 0600 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M39 1840 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M40 0335 MX Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis, Witton, Wednesbury or Spring Vale 6M41 1140 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M49 0955 Coy Waterston-Albion 6M50 1510 Coy Waterston-Albion 6M51 0500 Coy Waterston-Kingsbury 6M52 2025 Coy MX Waterston-Albion 6M53 0048 MX Coy Waterston-Albion IIRC Llandarcy was 'BP', Waterston was 'Gulf' as was the traffic from Cardiff Tidal. Not so sure about Hebrandston - Salop (Shrewsbury Abbey ?) . Brian R Brian This was during the period when my Dad was in BRB HQ "selling" the movement of oil on rail. When I went to Cardiff in 1970 he commented that Cardiff central was a bottleneck, constricting the development of the traffic out of Pembroke. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 With the Murco refinery at Robeston up for sale, and its future in jeopardy - interest heightens in the only regular oil train out of South Wales the Cl.60 powered Robeston - Westerleigh / Theale. . Hard to believe how many paths were catered for during 1971/72, but this is what the WTT contained back then:- . 6M33 1715 Coy Hebrandston-Shrewsbury 6M34 2325 MX Coy Tidal Sidings-Soho Pool 6M37 2100 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M38 0600 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M39 1840 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M40 0335 MX Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis, Witton, Wednesbury or Spring Vale 6M41 1140 Coy Llandarcy-Rowley Regis 6M49 0955 Coy Waterston-Albion 6M50 1510 Coy Waterston-Albion 6M51 0500 Coy Waterston-Kingsbury 6M52 2025 Coy MX Waterston-Albion 6M53 0048 MX Coy Waterston-Albion IIRC Llandarcy was 'BP', Waterston was 'Gulf' as was the traffic from Cardiff Tidal. Not so sure about Hebrandston - Salop (Shrewsbury Abbey ?) . Brian R Hebrandston was Esso; Salop was probably Shrewsbury Abbey, which in latter years received its supply from Bromford Bridge by rail. I would have been in 5th form, then Lower 6th, at Llanelli Boys' Grammar, when the timetable above was current. I remember there being a steady stream of oil trains, day and night, with those that were formed of 100t bogie tankers making a distinctive rhythmical banging as they rode along the Up line, which was still laid in 60' lengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Hebrandston was Esso; Salop was probably Shrewsbury Abbey, which in latter years received its supply from Bromford Bridge by rail. I would have been in 5th form, then Lower 6th, at Llanelli Boys' Grammar, when the timetable above was current. I remember there being a steady stream of oil trains, day and night, with those that were formed of 100t bogie tankers making a distinctive rhythmical banging as they rode along the Up line, which was still laid in 60' lengths. At this time the majority of South Wales-West Mids oil trains were worked by pairs of "six-eighters" ( Cl.37s to the youngsters). . Such air-braked modernity as 100 ton tankers didn't pass my school (Cantonian), even vac-fitted 21 tonners were in the minority when compared to the unfitted 'pools' - 21ton hoppers and coke hoppers. . But, there was the infrequent MGR working, hauled by one of Canton's SSF Cl.47s in the low D1900s. Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 At this time the majority of South Wales-West Mids oil trains were worked by pairs of "six-eighters" ( Cl.37s to the youngsters). . Such air-braked modernity as 100 ton tankers didn't pass my school (Cantonian), even vac-fitted 21 tonners were in the minority when compared to the unfitted 'pools' - 21ton hoppers and coke hoppers. . But, there was the infrequent MGR working, hauled by one of Canton's SSF Cl.47s in the low D1900s. Brian R I wonder if they changed engines somewhere, as those that I saw were hauled by Brush Type 4s; we used to get quite a lot of Immingham ones working through. I remember seeing the aftermath of a spectacular derailment at Ferryside (seemingly on the 10th September, 1971), with 45t tankers scattered everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) It's 11th. July, 1973 at what had recently become Cardiff 'Central' . 1939 is in Platform 2 on a Swansea - Paddington working . 6876 waits for the road on the 'up' relief as 6990 & 6991 draw up behind on an oil train from Waterston bound for the Birmingham area. . Aaah those warm sunny 'Instamatic' days. . Brian R Edited June 28, 2014 by br2975 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 These photos of the former Langley Oil Depot site taken a couple if weeks ago from a passing train. The site now has two sidings joined together at the station end to form a loop. As can be seen from the photos the site is home to the Balfour Beattie (on hire) Class 20's with one still displaying a 150 headcode from lat year when it was then pinged in LT red. The Langley Oil Depot site is now being used for work associated with CrossRail and the GWML Electrification. XF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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