RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2018 Gordon... JBI -- "just build it"... but if you do need any help let us all know. It is your railway andI hope it comes to fruition as soon as is practicable. Baz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junctionmad Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 All the very best on the future layout building Gordon I think your spot on with what your doing and I can fully understand the reasons behind your decision. It's your layout , money and time that you are investing and what you achieve is all down to your good self. I think that sometimes one has to be a bit 'thick skinned' when posting ones efforts for others to observe and offer advice so that you can keep focused on your goal. Their are some members on here who have been led astray by so called 'experts' on this and other forums and it can cause a lot of heart ache and soul searching ...I think the modern term is 'social media stress' ....all the kids are suffering from it so your not alone. It would be nice if you could post updates of your progress in the future as I for one have gained a lot of inspiration from the thread along the years and I wish you all the very best in the forth coming building process. I think thats a bit unfair to " so called experts ", at the end of the day , people contribute their views , often strongly held, its up to you to evaluate what you do with those views, rather then ask people not to offer then up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 It certainly won't go to the skip and one day things will run. Phew! Best wishes Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Bloody hell didn't see this coming, take care Gordon, please if you can every now and then just do us all a couple of photos Regards Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) This is all a bit weird. Gordon asked for advice, but felt overwhelmed by it all, and this was getting in the way of modelling, so he will not post anymore questions in this thread, and may freeze it altogether. He is not leaving RMWeb, and has thanked those who did make suggestions for getting involved and trying to help. That’s it. Perfectly reasonable, and there is no need for people to assume more than that and jump in with side swipes about unnamed members. Edit: my interpolation removed at Gordon’s request. Edited January 11, 2018 by Regularity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 All the very best Gordon, like the rest of us, on here, there's been some cracking, and inspirational stuff on this thread. Regards Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_H Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Gordon good luck and best wishes Ian Ps by the way did your nephew actually call by over Christmas;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2018 As I said before Gordon get a line around the room an A4 and twelve coaches moving at speed and then relax... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 47137 Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2018 Gordon I do hope you can complete part of your project, perhaps one circuit of the main line, and then take a little time to run some trains. The hobby has so many aspects to it, and maybe with some of the track ticked off you will decide it's time to make a few buildings, or look at that engine which hasn't run for so many years, or whatever. Make sure you enjoy it ... it is not a job with deadlines, or needing regular progress reports (don't look at my own layout thread!), but rather an inventive, creative and constructive pastime ... enjoy. Best wishes, - Richard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I will say that the size of what you are building will cause problems with the mojo that can be lacking at times, and the conversations on here can take away valuable time for what you want to build as well as sometimes give confusing advice. Myself, I have followed this thread for a long time, and having seen some of the work you do when scenery has been done, I keep following because I unashamedly want to nick some of the ideas and techniques you use. Go away from this thread, go get some thing running in your own time. Maybe start a new thread once that time comes around. After all, this thread incorporates how many different versions of what you have tried to build? At the end of all this, just remember it is your layout you are building. How much it matches prototype is upto you. We all have to make compromises do to space/monies/life, and unless it is a exact copy of a real location, it will never be exactly like the real thing. Just do what you want to, and build the layout you want to. I'll be waiting here for when you do decide to share what you have done. Looking on in admiration , D Smith. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandc_au Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 For what it is worth my suggestion is to stop (moderate) the thread until you are ready to continue and then re-open it, that way everything will be in the one place! Khris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 My own feelings on the matter of layout threads is to keep a very tight ship, in fact so tight that I regularly delete my own posts when they become a hickup to the smooth reading of the whole thread. I wanted to moderate my layout thread so that I could remove other members off-topic after a day or so, but this facility is not available to OP's. As things stand, new members and those who discover a layout thread some months after it has started are faced with a load of pages to wade through. The last thing I expect them to do is to have to wade through a boatload of off-topic waffle. But as I said, these are simply my own feelings on the matter of layout threads. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2018 My own feelings on the matter of layout threads is to keep a very tight ship, in fact so tight that I regularly delete my own posts when they become a hickup to the smooth reading of the whole thread. I wanted to moderate my layout thread so that I could remove other members off-topic after a day or so, but this facility is not available to OP's. This is going 'Off Topic' but that's just exchanged one mess for another. I know how Gordon Feels as you can be inundated with advice, all is well intentioned but you just can't follow it all or build anything sometimes. For my own I've been updating with stock that's being built but nothing on the layout itself. This I"ll probably do just a few times a year to show progress. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium martin_wynne Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) I wanted to moderate my layout thread so that I could remove other members off-topic after a day or so, but this facility is not available to OP's. Hi Larry, A forum topic is not "owned" by the person who started it, or anyone. That is the meaning of "forum". If that's what you want you should start a blog instead, where you can control what it contains and moderate contributions to it. That's what the Blogs section on RMweb is there for: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blogs/ When someone starts a forum topic, that is all they can do -- start it. After that its course is beyond their control and determined by whoever chooses to contribute to it. The advantage of such openness is that the original starter is not obliged to respond to any subsequent contributions if he doesn't wish to. If the subject has wandered away from its starting point there is no reason why he should. Whereas on a blog it would be considered a bit rude not to at least acknowledge contributions from others. This misunderstanding about the difference between a forum and a blog causes a lot of upset on RMweb. Martin. Edited January 12, 2018 by martin_wynne 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2018 . I find myself violently agreeing with you, Martin. Must put a stop to this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustytrev Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Hello, It is still sad that Gordon feels the need to stop but hopefully he may reconsider his decision at a later date. The enjoyment we have all had due to his kind willingness to share his progress will be sorely missed. Seeing his progress and achievements with Eastwood Town is an inspiration for us all.I have learned a lot from his shared experiences and am very grateful. Than you Gordon. trustytrev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Gordon, I have followed you for some time and really enjoyed the ride but as your moving summation says, in essence, it's all just for fun and if the fun stops so should you. It's admirable that you feel an obligation to all those who have taken an interest in ET but you should just have a break from social media, build what pleases you and send RM some holiday photos from time to time. Best regards Andrew 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) After all this we expect a fully working layout and you playing off a low single figure, if not scratch. ............and all by Christmas. Edited January 12, 2018 by BoD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 After all this we expect a fully working layout and you playing off a low single figure, if not scratch. ............and all by Christmas. Any particular Christmas in mind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2018 I think that if Gordon was a Great Western or BR (W) modeller, I would say "Gone With Regret", but being something of a realist, I'm going to miss his input to His thread. Track building is my favourite part of the hobby and Gordon's input was at times inspirational, with all that flowing S & C, great modelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gordon s Posted January 14, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Hi Guys.... First and foremost a massive thank you for all your very kind messages. I feel quite humbled to realise my inane ramblings on this thread brought a lot pleasure to those who read and contributed. I've also had several PM's and was really surprised that my 'Gettysburg Address' moment seems to have struck a chord with others who have or are going through a similar stage in their own layouts. Yesterday before golf, I wandered up into my railway room and was expecting to feel like a bereavement had taken place. Nothing could be further from the truth and amazingly I felt more motivated than ever before to build my railway. Of course I would never have got this far without Mike, Martin and so many others and the invaluable advice and encouragement freely given over the last 10 years, so a huge thank you to all that have supported ET. There has been a massive change in my thought process and I now see railway modelling as an art form to be enjoyed rather than an exercise in trying to achieve technical perfection. I looked at various bits of the build so far and ran a few trains and suddenly thought that doesn't look too bad and runs well and felt some pride in what had been done so far. In our photo directory we have over 20,000 pics of family, friends, memories and every blooming' aspect of every single build of the various versions of ET. My wonderfully supportive wife who has put up with me for over 20 years, recently had a hardback book printed of photos that were special to her. It was a pleasure to thumb through it and memories came flooding back. I've just spent a couple of hours doing exactly the same with all my ET pics. I'm only about a quarter of the way through and have pulled out around 150 pics that have given me pleasure. They all highlight the good bits without all the failures and I found myself thinking that looks great as each pic was added to the file. At the end of it I will have a permanent record of ET in hardback form. It won't be a best seller available in all shops, but it will remind me just how much fun this has been and how enjoyable modelling can be. It would take a lot for me to leave RMweb as I love being part of this community. I've made loads of friends and had a ton of laughter as the next banana skin moment unexpectedly arrived. Updates from ET will certainly appear here. It won't be tomorrow or next week. Might be a few months, but unlikely to be over the summer as golf in a polo shirt and shorts will take over. I'm feeling better, my health is rapidly improving and in my best Arny voice.....I'll be back. Edited January 14, 2018 by gordon s 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 There has been a massive change in my thought process and I now see railway modelling as an art form to be enjoyed rather than an exercise in trying to achieve technical perfection. I looked at various bits of the build so far and ran a few trains and suddenly thought that doesn't look too bad and runs well and felt some pride in what had been done so far. I agree entirely, but as all artists will agree, it takes a while to develop the techniques required. In fact, you may have tapped into a better metaphor than you realise! In fact, many artists return to the same subject time and time again, scrapping earlier efforts (either completed, or part completed) because what appears on canvas or in clay/wood/metal/stone/whatever isn’t what they have in their mind’s eye. In this respect, you should take comfort from the blind alleys and false starts: like any great artist, they are but learning points on the path to ultimate success. And make no mistake, whether we build an individual item of rolling stock, a small diorama, or a large layout, we are all creating a work of art which says to the the world, “This is what railways mean to me.” 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Glad to see you in good spirits Gordon. Go enjoy yourself - both on the golf course, and in the railway room - spend plenty of time with your family (I'm sure you will) - and we will look forward to your communiques, no matter how brief or infrequent. Shall we say Till next time, then? Cheers Scott 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalKat Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Indeed, hobbies are for enjoyment. go enjoy yourself sirrah! best wishes - Emma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2018 ... in a polo shirt and shorts will take over. NO photos please... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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