micmav Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Does anybody know if clarke kits are still on the go? I believe they made some white metal slag cars and some scrap boxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Does anybody know if clarke kits are still on the go? I believe they made some white metal slag cars and some scrap boxes. He sold the range to RT Models:- http://www.rtmodels.co.uk/rt_models_005.htm The range has been added to, with ingots and ingot moulds amongst other things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) I've has a look at some references and I can confirm that from its opening in 1950s, hot metal was delivered in 75 ton Kling ladles. I doubt that this changed during the life of the melting shop, the use of torpedo ladles would have required changes to the handling facilities, and by the mid 60s it was clear the shop had a limited life as the Basic Oxygen Process was the future. Slag was handled in 17 ton capacity pots on 4 wheel carriages slag ladles. Not the best photo, scanned from a grainy original, it shows some slag ladles under one of the 350 ton tilting open hearth furnaces. The carriages are similar to those currently available from RT Models though the pots are circular in cross section, and larger, than that supplied with the kit. Tilting furnaces were slagged by tipping them forward, towards the charging stage, over a spout in one or more of the charging doors. This required the slag ladles to be shunted under the charging stage and 4 wheel carriages were better suited to the confined space. In the plan below you can see the slag ladle lines curving under the charging stage and under the individual furnaces. Fixed frame furnaces were slagged on the pitside (tapping) side and the ladles were shunted in along the casting bay and though space wasn't quite such an issue most shops managed with 4 wheel ladles. So, Kling ladles for hot metal and 4 wheel slag pots at the start and I think it likely that they remained in use until the shop closed in the 1970s. Edited May 23, 2015 by Arthur 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Here's some of the Clarke/RT Models slag ladles made up; They make up very nicely and Robert at RT Models is a very helpful. Alistair (Clarke) based them on a prototype at Stanton Ironworks, they're typical Dewhurst of Sheffield slag ladles. And some Kling Ladles, anglicised from STD models kits of US prototypes. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmav Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Thanks very much for the info Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedalus Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Hello everyone,I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get old photos or Evan a plan of the old Warrenby works,both of the blast furnace site and the steelplant as these seem to be quite scarce, as I'm planning a 00 gauge layout loosely based on the old works. Old large scal Ordnance Survey maps detail railways ...50" scale. Most are available..I used them to trace the tracks around Grosmont and Goathland...those were Ist edition OS maps, hand drawn and works of art! That was some time ago. I wonder if they are now on line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 The Pollock, slag ladle is available as a HO kit from Walthers, this is what it looks like unbuilt, one day I may assemble it? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's a nice kit, here's a couple of mine. Like that STD Kling ladles, they need a few midifications to to anglicise them. In UK context they are more suitable for use at larger, post war, blast furnaces, Clay Lane for example. No, they're not vac fitted, the hoses represent the steam or air lines which operated the tipping mechanism. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Arthur They look good in the finished state, it would be nice to have time to get mine done! Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The current fleet of iu wagons is nowl ex BDA/BEA's that have had the bolsters, curb rail and floor removed and shortened! A raised cooling frame has been added to load Hot Slab at the Concast to take to the Docks for export! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 The BFI have just released a whole raft of new films including this one, 'Steel Strides Ahead', http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-steel-strides-ahead-1961/ It is two films, total running time 47 minutes, covering the then new iron making, steel making, and rolling facilities at Dorman Longs Clay Lane and Lackenby sites. It's the best step by step description of the facilities and operations of a traditional integrated steelworks I have seen. Railway interest includes glimpses of Fireless 0-6-0's on ingot trains, the big Sentinels, both rigid and articulated, working around the coke ovens and blast furnaces and some frustratingly brief glimpses of the steeple cab electrics. The working of the rope hauled incline to the stocking grounds also features. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Have watched the first twenty minutes and it's fascinating stuff. Brings back memories of Shelton Bar in Stoke-on-Trent and, although I wasn't old enough to remember the steel making I did get a couple of tours round the rolling mill there along with the steam charters we did in the 90s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The BFI have just released a whole raft of new films including this one, 'Steel Strides Ahead', http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-steel-strides-ahead-1961/ It is two films, total running time 47 minutes, covering the then new iron making, steel making, and rolling facilities at Dorman Longs Clay Lane and Lackenby sites. It's the best step by step description of the facilities and operations of a traditional integrated steelworks I have seen. Railway interest includes glimpses of Fireless 0-6-0's on ingot trains, the big Sentinels, both rigid and articulated, working around the coke ovens and blast furnaces and some frustratingly brief glimpses of the steeple cab electrics. The working of the rope hauled incline to the stocking grounds also features. Commentator - Bob Danvers Walker .............. I'm showing my age now, who remembers which t,v, programme his voice featured on ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 After watching that film I wracked my brains trying to recall the answer to that very question Brian, I could hear his name as it was always mentioned in the programme. As I had to Google the answer I won't now pretend that I knew. I did recall that he did a lot of Pathe News voice overs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted July 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 12, 2015 Take your pick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) As I had to Google the answer I won't now pretend that I knew. Unfortunately I didn't have to resort to Google! Probably because, as a young kid, I was the original TV remote control. My old granny used to force me to sit next to her whilst she watched anything and every thing on "the Telly". A quick nudge meant get up and change station. Fortunately there were only two. Michael Miles was one of her favourites. All shout together. "OPEN THE BOX!" "YES/NO"... "YES/NO"... "YES/NO"... BONGGGGggggggg. Almost as bad as Hughie Green with Beat the Clock and Double your Money. At least he had Monica to look at. No wonder I threw the telly out all them years ago... Porcy Going for a lie down as suddenly I have visions of Russ Conway playing Side Saddle on his piano and giving me that silly smile and a wink. (As a three year old, my Grandad once told me he'd found Russ Conways severed finger in a tin of Garden Peas). Edited July 12, 2015 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Wasn't 'Beat The Clock' part of Sunday Night at the London Palladium or some such show? I do recall the two game shows of the day, 'Take Your Pick' and 'Double Your Money', Michael Miles and Hughie Greene respectively. Google told me that Michael Miles was apparently earning the astionishing sum of £20,000 a year at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Wasn't 'Beat The Clock' part of Sunday Night at the London Palladium or some such show? Yep I think you're right, Sunday Night at the London Palladium another programme I had to endure as the Mk 1 TV remote. Must admit to being pretty impressed at the end of one Sunday Night at the Pally when they got the Mini Cooper S that had just won the Monte Carlo Rally onto the revolving stage. The Car got a bigger cheer than Tommy Cooper and Bruce Forsythe. Why do I remember such Crap??? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Probably 'cos back then, not only was that 'quality' entertainment, it was the only entertainment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I have a CD of Russ Conway that I "inherited" from my parents. Like Slade and Status Quo it is good for playing loudly in the workshop to keep visitors away when I want to get on and work... Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) The BFI have just released a whole raft of new films including this one, 'Steel Strides Ahead', http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-steel-strides-ahead-1961/ It is two films, total running time 47 minutes, covering the then new iron making, steel making, and rolling facilities at Dorman Longs Clay Lane and Lackenby sites. It's the best step by step description of the facilities and operations of a traditional integrated steelworks I have seen. Railway interest includes glimpses of Fireless 0-6-0's on ingot trains, the big Sentinels, both rigid and articulated, working around the coke ovens and blast furnaces and some frustratingly brief glimpses of the steeple cab electrics. The working of the rope hauled incline to the stocking grounds also features. That film should carry an 18 certificate!! Especially the bit round the ore dock with the steeple cab. The loader must have been pretty close to the overheads Thanks for sharing that Edited July 13, 2015 by russ p 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Thanks for this Arthur - I never thought that I'd be lucky enough to see film footage of those Sentinels. Really, however, this is just the icing on the cake; the scale and complexity of the operation depicted is fantastic! Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Fascinating stuff, Arthur, bringing back the sights and smells of my childhood. How much of the plant at Lackenby remains? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 Thanks for this Arthur - I never thought that I'd be lucky enough to see film footage of those Sentinels. Really, however, this is just the icing on the cake; the scale and complexity of the operation depicted is fantastic! Adam Yes indeed, as soon as Mike Edge releases his Sentinel kits there'll be a couple going under the soldering iron here. Fascinating stuff, Arthur, bringing back the sights and smells of my childhood. How much of the plant at Lackenby remains? Great film isn't it Brian. All that's in the first film has gone, ore wharf and stocking grounds, coke ovens, sinter plant, blast furnaces and open hearth shop. The soaking pits and heavy rolling mills have gone too though what, if anything, of the finishing mills remains I couldn't say. At the time of the film there were two other open hearth shops at Cleveland works, the Bessemer blast furnaces and a third furnace would be added to Clay Lane in 1962. There were also facilities at Acklam and Redcar, all gone. They were replaced by the new iron making facilities at Redcar and the BOS shop at Lackenby, both still there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 I have a CD of Russ Conway that I "inherited" from my parents. Like Slade and Status Quo it is good for playing loudly in the workshop to keep visitors away when I want to get on and work... Les My late brother in law was a Methodist Minister and his musical tastes were mild rather than wild. One Christmas my wife sent him two CDs which never arrived. The envelope containing them did, with Christmas card in it, but he said that it did look like it had been tampered with. I suspect the scrote who took them was a little disappointed with his haul of Daniel O'Donnel and the Salvation Army choir. Maybe the latter put him on the road to righteousness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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