RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2013 The Class 70 engine is derived from a Jennbacher type, which is an Austrian division of GE who specialise in industrial gas engines. If this is a known issue with GE's Dash-9 and GEVO engines it'd be easy enough for them to fit a butterfly valve in the inlet air system which would stop the engine pretty much instantaneously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I had an email from a guy a couple of years back that showed some pictures of a GE power unit that had ejected a complete cylinder and piston assembly clean through the roof of the loco. It travelled through the air, down through the roof of a house. Part of the piston ended up in the owners plaster board wall inside the house whilst the 'power assembly' ended up in the garden! I saw those pictures as well, the hole in the roof and the con rod sticking out of the wall (in the bedroom if my memory serves me right). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2013 I saw those pictures as well, the hole in the roof and the con rod sticking out of the wall (in the bedroom if my memory serves me right). GE's aren't alone in that. Farmers alongside the ECML regularly complained about deltic pistons getting caught up in their ploughs. Apaprently the Napier engines regularly 'put a leg out of bed.' Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted November 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2013 I saw those pictures as well, the hole in the roof and the con rod sticking out of the wall (in the bedroom if my memory serves me right). Yeah, that's the one. I couldn't find the email I had at one time but a couple of minutes detective work found this thread with some good sized pictures of the damage. DAMAGE!- http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=165984&mid=1190655#M1190655 To be fair to GE (which will be a first for me ) Legend has it that particular failure was because the fitters didn't torque down the hold down bolts when they replaced the liner and piston assembly! That FDL7 16 is 183 Litre incase anyone wondered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2013 I do quite a bit of design verification and standards work for marine diesel engines. We sometimes have a lot of problems with certain engine builders who argue that their industrial and train engines need not be adjusted to meet the particular crank shaft requirements, safety and shut down features, materials certification standards etc required of a marine engine. Invariably we get a mountain of documents arguing why marine standards are just pointless over engineering, result in a heavier and more expensive engine etc however it tends to go a lot quieter if you ask them for reliability and failure data for those items which they are disputing. Not that marine engines are perfect and I see enough reports of marine engine failures to be aware of some of their short comings however things like crank shaft failures and uncontrolled engine runaway are rare occurrences on marine engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2013 Reported that two new Colas 70's will arrive at Liverpool just before Christmas, with two more shortly after. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2013 i'd better get refreshing LBT then! i saw the post on wnxx about the delivery dates but officially i haven't heard a thing about them, i really am surprised that no pics of them have appeared on line from america, must be very well hidden 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2013 i'd better get refreshing LBT then! i saw the post on wnxx about the delivery dates but officially i haven't heard a thing about them, i really am surprised that no pics of them have appeared on line from america, must be very well hidden Are this batch going to come equipped with tenders to contain their individual fire engines. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 11, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2013 Smoking ? 70005 EN ROUTE LPOOLBKTL TO BASFDHALL ON 366M601311 DITLOCO N/500OUT OF SVC 08 11/11 FAILURE AT 0815 Rumours (thanks 40044) of this catching fire at Liverpool Docks ... Are this batch going to come equipped with tenders to contain their individual fire engines. Jamie See above - seems you have psychic powers ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevekay73 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 so 70802 and 803 coming first then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2013 The rumour mill now has a story that the delivery schedule has been changed with the first four arriving together in January. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Hi, Colas Rail has confirmed it has now ordered 10 Class 70's for entry into service in 2014: http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/traction-rolling-stock/single-view/view/colas-rail-orders-10-ge-transportation-powerhaul-locomotives.html#.Uo4m_2WlAe0.twitter Interestingly, they will be assembled in America as opposed to Turkey Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2013 finally, an official announcment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevekay73 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 just read that there will be no 70811 http://www.mainlinediesels.net/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 That Colas livery is ghastly... steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2013 Thats not the colas livery in the link its the demonstrator (ex 70099) Trust me the colas livery looks good on it! I think coz its more of an angular livery with no sweeping curves it "fits" the loco better than powerhaul livery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted November 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2013 That Colas livery is ghastly... steve I think it'll look a lot better on a class 70 than that swirly PH rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Couple of external links to colas 70 news, (both are mobile sites as im posting from the phone) The first one curiously using one of what i think is ewsjo's photoshops! http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/mechanical/locomotives/colas-rail-orders-10-ge-class-70-powerhauls.html The other has the official GE artist impression picture http://mobile.railwaygazette.com/index.php/news/news/profile/20061 (Say nothing mick!!) EDIT: smart ar$e newbryford! Edited November 24, 2013 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2013 The other has the official GE artist impression picture http://mobile.railwaygazette.com/index.php/news/news/profile/20061 (Say nothing mick!!) EDIT: smart ar$e newbryford! Not enough yellow.................. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Couple of external links to colas 70 news, (both are mobile sites as im posting from the phone) The first one curiously using one of what i think is ewsjo's photoshops! http://www.railwayage.com/index.php/mechanical/locomotives/colas-rail-orders-10-ge-class-70-powerhauls.html Thanks for the tip. I have advised Jo that if he ought to get a reproduction fee. That magazine charges over $10,000 for a full page advert. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steadfast Posted November 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks to Jim and Geoff for the heads up. It is indeed my picture, complete with the orange and yellow meeting at the wrong angle and using the older Colas Rail wording due to when it was created, before the Colas Rail Freight branding had been seen on anything. I'll be emailing them later, $10,000 would come in very useful at moment ;-) jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2013 Not enough yellow.................. Cheers, Mick or TOO MUCH yellow perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) or TOO MUCH yellow perhaps? Maybe the yellow is in the wrong place..........? Cheers, Mick Edited November 24, 2013 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 2, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2013 oh b#gger it, no sooner than i paint my Bachmann one into colas livery then the real thing appears with some sort of new cabinet on the side....... http://www.flickr.com/photos/drs20304/11171355544/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/drs20304/11171473043/ i think it may be a hose reel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted December 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2013 oh b#gger it, no sooner than i paint my Bachmann one into colas livery then the real thing appears with some sort of new cabinet on the side....... http://www.flickr.com/photos/drs20304/11171355544/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/drs20304/11171473043/ i think it may be a hose reel For the fire hose - is that an additional module in the training manual for the 70/8 sub series then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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