RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 Support is growing but for which team ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 (edited) Decided to substitute the bar at half time.. odds improved there’s 3 of us now, still out numbered by Colombians and Argentinians.. guy in the tall hat is doing magic tricks, sadly I think it was voodoo he was doing Edited July 14 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 (edited) Glad to see some subs, Grandad Kane put in a better than average show today, must be a special occasion. All in all not a bad show so far considering the opposition, but this is going to be tough. Edited July 14 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 (edited) Wow I just found the England fans in this bar !!! what a goal ! Palmer yet again, is the hidden secret Pickford worth his weight in gold a true passion player and loving it c’est la vie but that game was a world class game and one of the best finals I’ve seen in a long time. Being beaten by Spain is no shame, especially after a game like that. Edited July 14 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 At least we're spared another outing for "Sweet Caroline"...... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, cary hill said: At least we're spared another outing for "Sweet Caroline"...... Err.. well the Copa America final had something new tonight. It turns out the halftime is not 15 minutes but 25 minutes and featured a set by Shakira performing on stage on the pitch. The game itself was a bit of a mess. It started an hour and 20 minutes late and seems loads of people being stuck outside and unable to get into the stadium, whilst others were climbing fences, even the air ducts to try and get inside. The start of the match postponed at least three times and eventually started at about 9:20 local instead of 8 o’clock. looks like theres a few lessons to be learned, especially in this hear, 32 degrees outside waiting 3 hours to get in… my worry is the next World Cup is in the USA if tonight is a precedent it could end up being a game of 4 quarters extended over three hours with a concert in the middle and lots of advertising slots. Colombian fans seem to have arrived late as I saw blue/white shirts all day but tonight that changed.. I found a nice colombian bar (It was Cuban this morning) in Miami for the game tonight.. Colombian fans wearing ponchos and farmers hats.. love it. The amount of time tolerated for scrapes and bruises is amazing, especially as 1st half only had 1 minute extra.. despite Messi’s crash out, and suddenly realising he was on the floor beyond the line and suddenly went rolling over in pain three times to put himself back on the pitch to stop play for 3 minutes (and that wasnt the only instance).. hes off second half with a true injury though. One last thought… rolling tv ads across the bottom of the screen.. I could scan the QR code and order a papa John’s pizza at the same time i’m watching,.. Another point was an animated Smirnoff bottle suddenly appears on screen chasing the ball across the pitch for a few seconds before jumping off the top corner and taking the left side of the screen as an ad… omg. Edited July 15 by adb968008 3 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15 4 hours ago, adb968008 said: Err.. well the Copa America final had something new tonight. It turns out the halftime is not 15 minutes but 25 minutes and featured a set by Shakira performing on stage on the pitch. my worry is the next World Cup is in the USA if tonight is a precedent it could end up being a game of 4 quarters extended over three hours with a concert in the middle and lots of advertising slots. How about they have a defensive and offensive side, so they can keep swapping over? Make a day of it for the fans. I'm sure FIFA won't mind some changes in the rules! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 hours ago, adb968008 said: The game itself was a bit of a mess. It started an hour and 20 minutes late and seems loads of people being stuck outside and unable to get into the stadium, whilst others were climbing fences, even the air ducts to try and get inside. The start of the match postponed at least three times and eventually started at about 9:20 local instead of 8 o’clock. looks like theres a few lessons to be learned, especially in this hear, 32 degrees outside waiting 3 hours to get in… But they don't learn, do they, same issues at Paris a couple of years ago and Istanbul last year. Yet the organisers of these games still give them to places where they haven't the infrastructure (Istanbul, not Paris) or the ability to organise properly... Just lucky they aren't breweries... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 29 minutes ago, Hobby said: But they don't learn, do they Who cares as long as the £$€ flows in? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbos Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 This is how you do it against Spain in the Euro’s. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, turbos said: This is how you do it against Spain in the Euro’s. Spains record in the Euros Qualifying and Finals P17, W16, D0, L1, and that there is the only loss. IIRC the Spanish Manager complained about the rough tackling, old fashioned British tactics do work. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 15 hours ago, adb968008 said: Err.. well the Copa America final had something new tonight. It turns out the halftime is not 15 minutes but 25 minutes and featured a set by Shakira performing on stage on the pitch. One of Switzerland's all-time greats? 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bourneagain Posted July 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16 With Gareth gone, who will be next? Let the speculation begin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 7 minutes ago, bourneagain said: With Gareth gone, who will be next? Let the speculation begin. I'd say Sarina Wiegmann and I'm not even joking... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16 3 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said: I'd say Sarina Wiegmann and I'm not even joking... Her or Emma Hayes would be extremely radical appointments. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Her or Emma Hayes would be extremely radical appointments. And that might be exactly what's needed to shake everyone out of their complacency. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I see that the suggestion is gaining strength - why not Lee Carsley? He's coming from the same management development pedigree as Sir Gareth, has had success with the U-21s and has worked with many of the upcoming stars of the senior side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 16/07/2024 at 20:45, britishcolumbian said: I'd say Sarina Wiegmann and I'm not even joking... Would she accept a demotion, though? 🤔😁 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19 A question for you all. Who is the better manager? Ramsey, who won a world cup via a disputed goal on home soil which saved him having to qualify and then went on to do b*gger all else despite having some of the greatest players of the era at his disposal. Or. Southgate. Answers on a postcard. Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 49 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: A question for you all. Who is the better manager? Ramsey, who won a world cup via a disputed goal on home soil which saved him having to qualify and then went on to do b*gger all else despite having some of the greatest players of the era at his disposal. Or. Southgate. Answers on a postcard. Mike. IMO Southgate and it's not even a debate... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19 10 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said: IMO Southgate and it's not even a debate... Me too! I only posed the question as there seem to be a number of people who only judge the success of a manager by the number of trophies he wins. Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19 Didn't the late great Bob Paisley once say that first is first and second is nowhere. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) I'd agree Southgate purely on his record in major tournaments, but having said that a managers or teams record is only judged historically on it's success in winning trophies. Southgate's problem isn't that he's done well, that's not in dispute compared with previous managers, it's that he will always be judged as a "nearly man". The fans want success and finishing second twice won't be judged as good enough when the players he had at his disposal should have given him the ability to win them. Ramsey won, it doesn't matter how, that's irrelevant, and that's what every subsequent manager is judged on. Edited July 19 by Hobby 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 37 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Didn't the late great Bob Paisley once say that first is first and second is nowhere. That is one view, which my dad subscribed to. Another example from a different sport, Tim Henman was rated as the No.1 England player for several years. On the other hand his best Wimbledon performance was to be a beaten semi-finalist (4 times). Was he a success or failure? cheers Edited July 19 by Rivercider Tidying up. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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