RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2016 Average manager who is good at motivating and getting best from average players. Sounds like a good choice to me. Yes, ideal if you want England to continue as they have for the last 49 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Back in the 1960s, FA picked a manager who had done really well at a small club in the then 1st Division (now Premiership). He went on to win the World Cup. Now the best that they can find is a man who is good at avoiding relegation. Does not fill me with confidence for the future of English football. Now come on, he has won a championship. Well, okay it was the fourth tier of English football but to all Notts County fans he is almost god, along with Neil Warnock (now theirs a idea for an assistant!). [God of course being the, sadly late, Jimmy Sirrel] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yes, ideal if you want England to continue as they have for the last 49 years. Without many quality players, England will continue as they have for the last 49 years irrespective of the manager. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, as they say. Can anyone name an England player who would be first choice on a world class team sheet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 One unique fact about Sam is that he is the only manager to be sacked by a phone call from a convicted rapist in prison. Not one of Blackpool's finest moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Without many quality players, England will continue as they have for the last 49 years irrespective of the manager. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, as they say. Can anyone name an England player who would be first choice on a world class team sheet? just trying to work out the iclandic player who would fit the same bill seeming as though they did rather better than England maybe thats down to organisation having a plan a shape and sticking to it oh and being motivated by something other than how good they look for thier next shampoo commercial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 just trying to work out the iclandic player who would fit the same bill seeming as though they did rather better than England maybe thats down to organisation having a plan a shape and sticking to it oh and being motivated by something other than how good they look for thier next shampoo commercial To be fair to the little darlings, I don't remember any shampoo commercials, but I get your sentiment exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2016 To be fair to the little darlings, I don't remember any shampoo commercials, but I get your sentiment exactly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaIAPGNNg0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaIAPGNNg0 Unfortunately it wasn't his flakey scalp that needed Hart's attention it was his flakey hands...... Edited July 22, 2016 by cary hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 After suffering through a few seasons of "Fat Sam's" idea of football, England would be better off hiring a bunch of kids and winning the world cup playing FIFAxx. He is a mid table boring football nowhere man. Case in point that WHU with him barely survived in 14-15, with 80% of the same players Slaven managed Europa and would have had Champions league if not for some rather suspect officiating. He spouts all the crap about being a modern manager with all the sports science in his pocket. The reality is he is not even second rate to Mike Bassett. I predict another 4 years of qualifying against a bunch of crap countries only to get spanked when playing against any country with a half decent bunch of players and a manager not stuck in the stone age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 the term legend is used a lot in football for those that score that fabled winning goal or make a dramatic save but today a real footballing legends funeral was held . this man took a rundown fourth division club with no money small crowds and a penchant for applying for re election got them promoted through two divisions in five years then established them as a good solid second division club who played attacking entertaining football the traditional way no fancy flip charts or video replays just a good old fashioned big center forward a couple of wingers and someone to pick off the scraps . a seasoned old pro in the heart off the midfield and some hungry young cast offs snapping at heels in defence happy days . no nicknaming himself the special one or the savior just good hard working honest coaching ad man management from a quiet un assuming scot so goodbye Jimmy Frizzel rip and thank you for all the memorys 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 see man utd season tickets are ready for distribution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 23, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2016 new rules for match officials Surrounding match officials A yellow card for at least one player when two or more from a team surround a match official. The FA will continue to sanction teams when they surround match officials. Conduct in the technical area Behaviour by players and club staff in the technical area will be more rigorously enforced The requirements of the Technical Area Code of Conduct will be more rigorously enforced for players and club staff. Additionally, match officials will be required to retain professional detachment from players and club staff at all times. Man Utd's new boss ought to be in trouble then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Without many quality players, England will continue as they have for the last 49 years irrespective of the manager. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, as they say. Can anyone name an England player who would be first choice on a world class team sheet? I think it is telling that foreign clubs are not falling over themselves to buy English players. If my memory is correct the last England players to play for foreign clubs were Owen Hargreaves and David Beckham. As is the case with Gareth Bale, if the talent is there the top foreign clubs want them. So different to the mediocre foreign players our own teams pay stupid money for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Without many quality players, England will continue as they have for the last 49 years irrespective of the manager. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, as they say. Can anyone name an England player who would be first choice on a world class team sheet? May be this is the way to go. Decades ago we would enter tournaments with a handful of world class ( possibly in their own minds) players and the weight of press and public expectation that we could win, or at least reach the last four. We didn't. In the last 10-15 years approaching a tournament no-one holds out much hope, knowing what has gone before, we normally have a few potential good players. Then in the weeks before the tournament starts the press start talking up the chances if one or two new young players show promise or we qualify easily. Then when it comes to it we fail again, with players either worn out/injured after a long season and failing to live up to expectation. Perhaps the FA are looking at the relative success of Wales and the Irish teams who surpassed expectations? Let Big Sam build a squad with a proper team spirit who will battle every game. Win ugly if need be, but win. Go with three centre backs if we do not have top quality, and a defensive midfielder in front of them. I don't hold out too much hope, no manager will ever have enough access to his preferred squad to train/motivate/bond them. I agree it will probably end in tears, but a different approach might just work. Get the knives out! cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted July 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2016 Slaven managed Europa and would have had Champions league if not for some rather suspect officiating. Agreed, but also don't forget the horrible McCarthy tackle that robbed West Ham of their best player for several weeks mid-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Watching Real Madrid against Chelsea with about a 2 second delay on the audio - silence at exciting moments and roars when nothing's happening. And the field is grass laid on Monday on top of artificial turf. It looks like there's not a lot of bounce in it and passes are really slowing up. (And Real are now 2-0 up.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted July 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2016 (And Real are now 2-0 up.) Sometimes I wonder if there's a small chance, perhaps, that our premier league isn't quite as good as they keep telling us it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Sometimes I wonder if there's a small chance, perhaps, that our premier league isn't quite as good as they keep telling us it is. In one simple word, yes! Its not as if it should not be evident every year when the FA cup comes round with "fortunate" or "lucky" goals being scored by teams outside of the premiership which if they had been scored by Rooney etc would be raved about for the next week/month. One that sticks in the mind from a few years back is a player for a non-premiership club picking up the ball on the edge of his own penalty area, running the length of pitch with ball past a couple of the opposing players and slotting the ball into the net past the hapless goalie, only for it to be described as "agricultural"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted July 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2016 That would have done his Optima Passes Completed stats no good whatsoever. He should have passed it square along the back four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Heard it all now at last nights lancs senior cup semi final manure v Oldham held a Leigh. a small group of the Athleticos who are known for banging a drum and creating a bit of an atmosphere at games were ejected from the stadium after complaints from the utd fans that they were "too noisy". perhaps they wanted peace quiet to consume there prawn sandwiches and Chardonnay incedently there was a game going on .the Latics winning 4-3 on pens poetic justice maybe ? Edited August 3, 2016 by peanuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Out of breath after that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 manure Yawn.....wasn't even amusing 20 years ago Keith, what next Munichs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Yawn.....wasn't even amusing 20 years ago Keith, what next Munichs?nope never ever mate may use the jokey manure the same as dirty Leeds or bin dippers for scouse sides but never ever that term but now you mention it the only people who do seem to use it a lot are your fellow utd fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 nope never ever mate may use the jokey manure the same as dirty Leeds or bin dippers for scouse sides but never ever that term but now you mention it the only people who do seem to use it a lot are your fellow utd fans I think the fact is somewhat different to what you state................and it's not nor ever has been attempted to be 'reclaimed'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 nothing to do with it being "reclaimed " as stated only time i have heard that term mentioned in a football context was from the lips of a utd supporter once whilst trying to falsley accuse supporters of another club inorder to provoke an incedent . and once when asked why we as supporters of another club used the tem he was informed in no uncertain terms we do not the only time in the last twenty years i have heard it inside a ground was be supporters of Dirty leeds who were roundly and rightly booed and shouted down by the home supporters for doing so yes we have mickey take nick names for clubs as stated bindippers for the scouse contingent noblot for bolton ba''''d rovers for blackburn wendies for the wensdsday wooly backs for wrexham etc but that term when used about your club is quite rightly universaly recognised amongst all descent supporters as abhorent and out of order now as stated you brought it up so that makes three times now one of your own has used it first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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