jonny777 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Like you voted out of the Home International Championship all those years ago, because the competition (Scotland, Northern Ireland & Wales) weren't good enough....... and Wales promptly gave England a sound beating 4-1 at The Racecourse ! . As an outsider, England's problems appear to start with the media, whose hype the players and supporters end up believing. . But that's just one of my views. I think that you are right, at least in part. We have this over-riding fear of being drawn against who we consider to be the top teams. The media seemed to be relieved that we managed to avoid even Portugal, and this is a regular occurrence. That negative attitude must attach itself to the players, who then appear to play in a way that will not have them trashed individually by the newspapers and tv when each match is over. There is also the problem of the sports journalists wanting to pick the manager and team they want, and continuously undermining the squad if/when their favourite player is not chosen. We rarely seem to be able to play as a team, and as Chris Waddle (I think) said, everything about the FA and the England set-up is conducted in secret. The players are only rarely allowed to speak to the media in case they say something that would be picked on by the hungry pack, training is conducted in secret, and the tactics (or lack of them) are kept secret too. There is no enthusiastic engagement with the fans at any time. Everyone involved seems to hide away as much as possible except for a few highly staged press conferences. I wish I had the answer to this, but it seems to be in the English sporting psyche. Build the promising talent up to un-achievable proportions and then slag them off relentlessly when they fail to come up to those ridiculous expectations. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Next England Manager: Gareth Southgate 6/4 Alan Pardew 8/1 Eddie Howe 10/1 Gary Neville 14/1 Jurgen Klinsmann 16/1 Harry Redknapp 16/1 Brendan Rodgers 18/1 Arsene Wenger 20/1 Sam Allardyce 22/1 Glenn Hoddle 25/1 Slaven Bilic 28/1 Manuel Pellegrini 28/1 Steve Bruce 28/1 Mauricio Pochettino 33/1 Gary Monk 33/1 Raphael Benitez 33/1 Eddie Howe it is then. I don't he's failed anywhere yet, although I believe he didn't enjoy his spell exiled to Winterfell Burnley and he's not a senile serial meddler.....yet..... You've missed out Gustavo Poyet and Tim Sherwood. The squad needs more "pashun". Also, Paolo di Canio. Edited June 28, 2016 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) To quote Red Dwarf: What a steaming pile of Hotspur another bad FB meme going around: I just bought vol 2 of Bonny Tyler's greatest goaltending blunders. It was totally clips of Joe Hart. Edited June 28, 2016 by AndrewC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted June 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2016 ..never have so few, taken so much and given so little.. Kev. (With apologies to all the past brave souls.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 "He’s spent four years building a team and from the position he inherited it to the team today, it’s a much stronger team and a much stronger setup." F.A.Chief Executive Martin Glenn on Hodgson That is a joke .......isn't it...........? Glenn and some bloke called Ashworth will "choose" the next England manager. Apparently Ashworth made his name at WBA that doesn't bode well..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2016 What's the criteria for the job exactly. A part time dentist got his side to the quarters so perhaps we should be head hunting in Harley Street and pay on results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) What's the criteria for the job exactly. A part time dentist got his side to the quarters so perhaps we should be head hunting in Harley Street and pay on results. Yeah let's bring back the Dentist's Chair it nearly worked in 1996. Edited June 28, 2016 by cary hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2016 it nearly worked in 1996. Yes, Gareth Southgate and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Having calmed down a little since last night, Roy actually got tantalisingly close to achieving the F.A.minimum requirement of reaching the Euro 2016 Quarter Finals as England finished 9th chronologically....or should that be chronically 9th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 "He’s spent four years building a team and from the position he inherited it to the team today, it’s a much stronger team and a much stronger setup." F.A.Chief Executive Martin Glenn on Hodgson That is a joke .......isn't it...........? Glenn and some bloke called Ashworth will "choose" the next England manager. Apparently Ashworth made his name at WBA that doesn't bode well..... Martin Glenn is also quoted in this morning's papers as saying "I don't consider myself a football expert". Which just about sums things up. Maybe he is an expert on gourmet dinners, 5 star hotels, and executive boxes? Which is all that seems to matter in the higher sporting echelons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yes, Gareth Southgate and all that. The same Gareth Southgate who The Times seem to favour as candidate for next England manager, with Alan Shearer as his Assistant. Shearer, who makes no secret of the fact that he really really wants this poisoned chalice, won't take kindly to having to play second fiddle. I can't wait to see if Private Eye magazine takes a view on this, but they've got their hands full of satirical possibilities given events in the last week or so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted June 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2016 The same Gareth Southgate who The Times seem to favour as candidate for next England manager, with Alan Shearer as his Assistant. Shearer, who makes no secret of the fact that he really really wants this poisoned chalice, won't take kindly to having to play second fiddle. I can't wait to see if Private Eye magazine takes a view on this, but they've got their hands full of satirical possibilities given events in the last week or so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Dan Ashworth, who will help choose the next England manager, with his England DNA blueprint to improve the England team: Straplines ....."Evolving...Developing ...Winning....." Going quite well then..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Martin Glenn's background is working for Cadbury's, & Walkers amongst others. Clearly just the man to select an England Team's Football manager.He will be quoted as saying we are looking to appoint someone with a "Sweet" personality who is also a "Crisp" disciplarian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Martin Glenn's background is working for Cadbury's, & Walkers amongst others. Clearly just the man to select an England Team's Football manager.He will be quoted as saying we are looking to appoint someone with a "Sweet" personality who is also a "Crisp" disciplarian. His appointment of Gary Lineker as the "face" of Walkers Crisps worked out quite well. Still going strong after 21 years but I suppose the next England manager will be lucky to last 21 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted June 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2016 "Being an England supporter is like being the over-optimistic parents of the fat kid on sports day" - apparently a quote by comedian John Bishop (can't be absolutely sure, I read it on a footy fan website). Just about says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted June 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2016 Arsene Wenger is interested in the England job. He's looking for somewhere where he would be appreciated for coming 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Shoot-out again for Poland, so off to do the washing-up as I can't watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Shoot-out again for Poland, so off to do the washing-up as I can't watch. Portugal win 5-3 on penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I am afraid that Poland were never going to win that shoot out. Fabianski never looked like saving a penalty. He stood like a statue, bent over as if badly needing a sh#t before diving the wrong way for every effort. Surely a goalkeeper should make themselves look as big as possible, and move around on the line to try and put off the striker. That would make the goal look as small a target as possible. Tonight the goal looked as big as the Grand Canyon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2016 And quite a few of them are no longer with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffers Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 The late, great Don Bradman may have been the originator of the above joke when someone in the 1980s asked him how many he would score against the then current England cricket team and he reckoned 70 or so and when asked was that all he replied "....well you got to remember I am in my late 70s...." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 So Portugal have reached the semi finals but are yet to win any game in 90 minutes. The only match they have actually won, excluding penalties, was with a 117th minute strike being their first attempt on target of the game. Don't quite know what that says about the rest of the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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