luke_stevens Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Was I the only one to see on the Dapol stand 2 sheets of A4 paper one announcing DP2 and the other NBL 21/29's? Please tell me I didn't dream it when I dozed off on the train on the way home! ADMIN EDIT: see here for specific topic on DP2 and here for the Class 21/29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 in oo? and are they gnral release or ar they model shop limited editions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 in oo? and are they gnral release or ar they model shop limited editions? As far as i could tell both OO and both general release... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 YES!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hi everyone, clarification on our announcements of today; 1) Class 21/29 work is already unbderway on these OO gauge models and as with the class 22 project any help from you guys would be gratefully received with regards pictures etc. 2) DP2 is also underway and it looks like we have that pesky buffer beam curve completely sorted as well Both the above should be the latter end of 2011 at the latest. 3) We are producing 2 types of scale pantographs in both OO and N gauge in plastic with no spring, merely a set maximum height just below the height of the wires we are producing (still testing these wires) These will be totally to scale and include insulators etc, and we envisage a price point of £7.95 for 2 x N gauge ones and £9.95 for 2 x OO ones. 4) 10000 + 10001 is delayed by 6 weeks as we have had to start another tool after finding 12 variants of this model and not the 8 we originally thought of and as such that many slides would weaken the single tool at worst and at least possibly cause unsightly mould lines. 5) The class 22 ( 1st EP on display) will be released during May 2011 6) Most if not all wagons previously announced will appear during 2011 including the MRA's 7) We are cutting metal on our 2/3/4 track 'H' frame gantry kit in OO gauge that will allow you to do either set up including missing track versions where the gantry stretches over a missing track previously lifted. We had an N gauge 121 bubble car and a class 142 on display as well as new Britannia's (4 types) New B1's (4 types), all our HST's (almost ready, including a finished Grand Central one), New class 58's (including Mainline Blue) and a Network South East 86. Hope this helps:D Cheers Dave Dapol Ltd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Is it me or am I the only one who is excited about the release of the Turbots? I was half hoping they might be available for Warley. Maybe I was a year out! Oh well, the Cambrian versions will have to keep going for a while longer! It would be nice to know if they were likely to be available in the first or second half of 2011 though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Wow, interesting releases, any plans for scaling these down in the long run!? m0rris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 20, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2010 Thanks for the update Dave. It allows those of us who are not able to get to Warley to know what your plans are without having them unintentionally muddled by the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hmmm, why don't I have a bigger house so I could go OO. By the time it's time for me to upscale all these brilliant models will be gone, so best hope they all turn up in N. DP2 in OO is interesting given Bachmann have the basic model shape already, not knocking as it is a welcome model, especially if downscaled to 2mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted November 20, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2010 Any pics of the 142? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Question - you create a DP2 in OO, what next, I mean after all it was just an extension of the Deltic programme with a different engine (and a few grills, slightly different roof) Bachmann have rather a nice Deltic in OO but the N gauge model is a little basic to say the least, but they have a prototype Deltic just released and I presume that body will easily mutate into something more production like. Is DP2 a dealer commission or a straight Dapol one. Want one, want one (in n of course). Also 21/22 and a 29 please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Interesting news. Is the class 22 still going to be scaled down to N gauge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Bachmann have rather a nice Deltic in OO but the N gauge model is a little basic to say the least, but they have a prototype Deltic just released and I presume that body will easily mutate into something more production like. Not really. The production Deltics had a different profile, different cab shape/detail, different grilles, different length, different bogie centres, different bogie wheelbase... the DP2 is much closer to a production Deltic as it was built as an add-on at the end of the production Deltics to keep costs down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Not really. The production Deltics had a different profile, different cab shape/detail, different grilles, different length, different bogie centres, different bogie wheelbase... the DP2 is much closer to a production Deltic as it was built as an add-on at the end of the production Deltics to keep costs down. That's interesting, so perhaps we might yet see a new N gauge Deltic model other than from Farish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2010 4) 10000 + 10001 is delayed by 6 weeks as we have had to start another tool after finding 12 variants of this model and not the 8 we originally thought of and as such that many slides would weaken the single tool at worst and at least possibly cause unsightly mould lines. I find this the most encouraging, it would have been all too easy for Daol to have "winged it" on this one, but the delay to get it right speaks volumes. The scales have been tipped in favour of a pre-order of 10000 in original livery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 A big thumbs up from me for the gantry's to complement the current catenary....................top marks. Saves me bashing the old Hornby model or making a hash of scratch building! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Great news about Panto's and catenery. I couldn't get up into the Dapol stand as I was with pushchair and Thomas was chomping at the bit. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted November 22, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2010 Excellent news on the N gauge pantos (not scale photographs as the print out on the Dapol stand said - the wonders of spellcheck!). Which two are being produced - presumably Brecknell-Willis and Stone Faiveleys? Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Hi all, is it just me, or if Dapol are saying they will be producing DP2 and with their recent Press Release about only stating what they plan to release with just 1 month to go, does this mean we going to get a DP2 for Christmas? See: Dapol's Press Release To quote: 'New items under development will only be announced to the press, trade and public 1 month before they are due to be in the shops.' I prefered the openness Dapol used to give, with plenty of chance for customer feedback but appreciate its dilmena with other meanufacturers. Either way, DP2 will be a nice addition to an ever-increasing prototype fleet. Dapol DAVE: Could you enlighten us on whether DP2 is going to be available in a month's time, or are you just being kind enough to let us know to save up for the future? Great stuff! Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Hi Ixion, to clarify, the press release mentioning the 30 days is meant for N gauge products primarily but we are working on some OO products under this auspice. 21/29 and DP2 do not fall into this category so carry on saving. cheers Dave Dapol Ltd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod6 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Please note there is now a separate topic for DP2 here and for the Class 21/29 here It would be appreciated if further posts specifically on these models could be made in the relevant topic linked above (some posts on the 21/29 have been moved across; posts on DP2 predating Dave's OP remain in this topic). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted November 22, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2010 Hi everyone, clarification on our announcements of today; 7) We are cutting metal on our 2/3/4 track 'H' frame gantry kit in OO gauge that will allow you to do either set up including missing track versions where the gantry stretches over a missing track previously lifted. Hope this helps:D Cheers Dave Dapol Ltd Hi Dave, This certainly helps the DEMU - Scotland team with the layout we are building. So I know how to adjust our schedule on the build... A rough expectation of release date would be a great help! Some photos of the real thing you are working from would also be useful as then we know what to expect and plan their incorporation into the layout. If you can... Brilliant! If not... We will understand! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 DapolDave, As you have "N" and "OO" experience, have you ever looked at doing a ready-to-run "009" locomotive (e.g. a Tallylyn or Ffestiniog) ? I know a continental manufacturer proposed releasing a Ffestiniog Double-Fairlie a couple of years ago - but it was outrageously priced and it supposedly died for lack of orders. I put this query here, merely as you seem to visit quite regularly. Thanks for any thoughts. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted November 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hi Ixion, to clarify, the press release mentioning the 30 days is meant for N gauge products primarily but we are working on some OO products under this auspice. 21/29 and DP2 do not fall into this category so carry on saving. cheers Dave Dapol Ltd In other words,the 30 day rule applies,except when it doesn't. Have you considered politics,Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
familyguy99 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Hi Do anyone know if class 142 was on display at warley and if so have the got a picture of it because I couldn't make it this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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