nabit Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hiya mate, thought Ian bought an ETHEL a couple of years ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 He did, he's now going to have two! Greedy boy that he is! kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 And as usual nothing is as easy as I first thought. 97 250 turns out to be the only one of the ETHEL’s that had its boiler vents unplated. Possibly the only 25 by this time! So, having decided on that one, it’s back to the increasingly sad looking donor Hornby bodyshell again – Don’t look Ian! All the windows came out in one piece ok so it could have been worse. The big news this weekend though is that Loch Dour has now been confirmed to appear at the L&Ydcc show in Manchester on May 18th & 19th. More details here - http://www.lydcc.org.uk/exhibition2013May.html. I am looking forward to this one as their Glasgow Q St 88 is making its first appearance too. If they have some spare mk2’s available my 27/1 & 27/2 may be able to have some top and tail thrash! Kev. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hello Kev, don't forget you don't get any thrash with an ETHEL so just use a bog standard sound chip. OzzyO. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hi Kev, The ETHEL is looking good so far, I have a spare body to do one of these days. 25904 had unplated boiler vents. Cheers Peter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) I seem to be going through a bit of a rat phase! As was mentioned earlier Ozzy, we have already done a model of 97 252 (Ethel 3) for assisting Ian's ''steamy things'' on Coppell, so its just a case of updating the program for a V4, which would be a waste of a good chip! Or swapping the chip for a 3.5, probably the one in 20 119, do you think Ian would notice? I'm stuck for now Pete as ''Ethel 1'' is now wrapped up in masking tape ready for spraying, but it's in the minus figures in the garage. Not a problem you've got at the moment eh! Kev. Edited January 15, 2013 by kevpeo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 25904 had unplated boiler vents. Is it me, but ISTR, weren't both of these built without boilers? There must be some logic somewhere! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Hello Kev, all, I've just been looking at some of my old books and this is what I've come up with. D7612, 25626, 25901. D7618, 25268, 25902, D7672, 25322, 25912. Etc up to and missing out locos, when this arrives on the scene. D5281, 25131, 97202 ??? D7655, 25305, 97251 mthu, D7660, 25310, 97250 mthu, D7664, 25314,97252 mthu, Looking at the above locos, all the last three are old E.T.H. fitted locos, so did B.R. refit an E.T.H. motor into an old steam heat fitted body? And then renumber it as well. OzzyO. Edited January 17, 2013 by ozzyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 The last three are the Ethels Ozzy! No 25's were fitted with ETS until they were converted (in 83 I think?) I've had a flick through a few books and failed to find an example of a later bodystyle one with boiler water tanks, although I bet there is an example somewhere! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Kev, I was thinking more about the boiler room grills, as why would these locos have them? The only one that I would expect to have them would be D2581, 25131, 97202. If you get what I'm saying. So did 97202 become the fourth E.T.H.L. 97253? That would explain the boiler room grills, but not on any of the other three. I have been taking most of my info. from 1986 and 1988 books so I may have missed something. OzzyO. Edited January 17, 2013 by ozzyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hello Kev, all, I've got myself in a bit of a muddle with the E.T.H.L.s as no 25s were fitted with E.T.H. only steam heat. The batch that the E.T.H.L.s came from 25248 - 25327 were built with no train heating (so later body style?), so was it that they un-plated some of the what would have been boiler rooms to give more cooling to the electrical compartment? I think that I'd swap the V4 for the 3.5. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hi OzzyO, You are right re the class 25s having no ETH fitted, The work done on the class 25 during the early 80s that Kev mentioned could be the fitting of Air brakes as they were all Vac only when built I think. I had a quick look at the Derby Sulzer website and found a pic of 25083 which has the later body with boiler grille unplated, this loco along with 084 to 087 were built with boilers so have the extra tank underneath, all other class 25s built after this were none boilered which still doesn't answer why some locos had the grille, or even the plated over grille unless they thought some locos might get a boiler fitted at a later date. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 so was it that they un-plated some of the what would have been boiler rooms to give more cooling to the electrical compartment? OzzyO. I could look at Rats all day! This may make sense in that 97 250 was the first/prototype ''ETHEL'' so the thinking may have gone down this route. It obviously made no difference if that was the case, as the other two weren’t un-plated! 97 202 was a training loco at Old Oak Common depot I think, and was un-modified. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hi, I've been following the ETHEL discussion with interest and thought I'd just add a face to the name. Here's a pic of ETHEL 2 behind 37264 at Oban on a 'West Highland Tours' special. Inspired by Loch Dour since seeing the layout at the Newcastle Exhibition. Keep up the great work. Mal 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Now thats a better use for an Ethel! A cracking shot that Mal. Thanks for posting and the kind words, kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 A couple of new video's! 20 119 & 20 020 with ''manual thrash'' programs - 40 032 with a brand new Legomanbiffo v4 decoder - Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlw Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Kev, They both sound great. How does the manual thrash work as it seems like the power increases but nit the speed. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hi Carl. Start up, idle and brake release etc all work as normal, but all other ''engine noise's'' are allocated to several function keys. Thus speed and ''power'' are controlled separately, so yes you can rev up first and then accelerate or even slow down while increasing power to simulate hill climbing! It takes a bit of concentration but does add to the realism. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hi Kev, Those vids are superb. Really like the forty sounds good going up the bank. That pair of 20's are nice too with those notched sounds I can picture a battered blue pair on an MGR starting from a signal stop on Coppell! That would be nice. I have a sound confession too - just fitted my Black 5 with Howes sound yesterday and I like it! All the best Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 I don't think I could get away with ''manual thrash'' sound programs on Coppell Mark, my fellow operators would rebel! Funnily enough, my favorite (sic) steam decoder in service on Coppell is the Howes 8f. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 As eluded too in an earlier post, one of my team has received a Christmas prezzie! – Its proud owner, our club chairman Russ, has now also purchased a Legomanbiffo decoder and bass-reflex speaker for me to ruin the warranty with! Soon to become 37 156 in mid-70’s condition, note the oil covered bogies; this Bachmann trait is getting worse! Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Hi all. I'm after a little help please. Does anybody know of an alternative manufacturer of ETHEL transfers. Railtec do them, but are out of stock and I cannot find them in the Fox, Replica or modelmaster ranges? Thanks for your time, kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Hi Kev, I've never used them befor, but http://www.precisionlabels.com/d25.html Not sure if they even the ones you are looking for but I hope this helps Kind regards Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 Excellent Ian. I've passed that on to my Ian to ''flash his plastic''! Thanks very much, Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Cracking vids. The 20s sound great! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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