N15class Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 That's why I like 3 point compensation for 4-4-0s it the point is the bogie pivot any thing in here as well as behind the side beam pivot adds weight to the drivers. But keep centre of gravity behind the leading driver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted November 28, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2018 And here is a test run. Cheers, Dave. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Well done that runs v nicely now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted November 29, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2018 I think the saying is:"Holy moly!" - what a transformation. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted November 29, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys, the running COULD be better, but I think that's the best we can achieve, given the starting point. There are still issues with doing the holding screw up tight, due to the various distortions in the bodywork, so I think the best thing to do is leave it loose. The screw can be secured with a touch of glue, and as the nut is highly visible just inside the cab, access to it is not a problem. The other issue is the four-wheel-only pickup. If I was starting this kit I would fit pickups on the tender; but as it is soldered up in one piece with the wheels trapped, I don't think this is an option. I will investigate further. Cheers, Dave. Edited November 29, 2018 by DLT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Thanks guys, the running COULD be better, but I think that's the best we can achieve, given the starting point. There are still issues with doing the holding screw up tight, due to the various distortions in the bodywork, so I think the best thing to do is leave it loose. The screw can be secured with a touch of glue, and as the nut is highly visible just inside the cab, access to it is not a problem. The other issue is the four-wheel-only pickup. If I was starting this kit I would fit pickups on the tender; but as it is soldered up in one piece with the wheels trapped, I don't think this is an option. I will investigate further. Cheers, Dave. I think I see what you mean about the running, but it's acceptable (and as you say, many a mile from the starting point). I would not be so concerned about four-wheel pick up; all my four-coupled locos work perfectly well with no additional assistance, though mostly because they have no option! Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted November 30, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2018 I am very reluctant to do anything to the tender; it's generally well put together, nice and square etc; but its in one piece only and can't be dismantled in any way. This makes it very difficult to retro-fit any pickup system without wrecking it, and its the best bit of the model. The final issue is the lining, Its hand-lined and a bit wonky in places. I don't have anything in the way of transfers to be able to re-do those massive curly splashers, or a lining-pen (and I've never used one) so I'm just going to do what I can to tidy up the worst bits. Does that sound ok Tony? Cheers, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2018 I am very reluctant to do anything to the tender; it's generally well put together, nice and square etc; but its in one piece only and can't be dismantled in any way. This makes it very difficult to retro-fit any pickup system without wrecking it, and its the best bit of the model. The final issue is the lining, Its hand-lined and a bit wonky in places. I don't have anything in the way of transfers to be able to re-do those massive curly splashers, or a lining-pen (and I've never used one) so I'm just going to do what I can to tidy up the worst bits. Does that sound ok Tony? Cheers, Dave. Dave I think you have already worked miracles, so what you are saying sounds perfectly acceptable to me. In due course perhaps I will weather it, which should hide whatever paint defects remain. Best wishes Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 8, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Turning my attention to the paintwork on the T6, the olive green is very good, with a really nice even finish. The black though is for a start actually glossier than the green, and in places so uneven that it appears as pools. Some of these thick bits have simply flaked off with handling, revealing the unprepared brass underneath. So where this has happened I've rubbed it down and blackened the brass. Over this I've painted Humbrol 85 Satin Black, which is quite an improvement. I've also started touching in the white lining with a fine brush, and once that is hard I'll attempt to do the black lining. Photos when its finished. Cheers, Dave. Edited December 8, 2018 by DLT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 9, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Here is how it currently looks. Hmmm, not much different from Tony's original.... Lining is marginally less wonky than before, but probably the best I can do with a brush, or without stripping it and starting again. One or two bit have dropped off and need refitting, and I see the vacuum pipe has got bent. Still, at least it works, and I hope Tony will no longer feel the need to take a sledgehammer to it! Cheers, Dave. Edited September 5, 2022 by DLT 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2018 Dave May not look to different but having seen it move without being pushed, I know that it is a very different loco. A bit of weathering should hide the worst of the lining, so I am very happy. Thank you for your amazing efforts! Best wishes Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 10, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thanks Tony, Some of the lining transfers have got got damaged with handling and are being replaced. The boiler bands etc are pressfix transfers, so that's not an issue. The rearmost boiler band (in line with the safety valves) wasn't there in the first place, so I'll add that. Cheers, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 16, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) I think I've taken this loco as far as I can without actually starting again! I've added the missing boiler bands, and replaced some other crumbly transfers. There's still a couple of things to stick back on (front coupling, axle-nut covers) and painting the safety-valve cover green. But then I think I'm going to leave it there, if thats ok with Tony? Cheers, Dave. Edited September 5, 2022 by DLT 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2018 Dave Don't worry about a front coupling - just a hook will be fine; already looks many times better than I thought it ever would! Many thanks, most grateful. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 21, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2018 Having thought I had cured all the various ills of this loco, I was still getting some very annoying grinding and jerkiness in the running. I've gone back to the gearbox (Branchlines Multibox, 40:1 I think) and having said it was fine earlier, I now find that it isn't. Too much sideplay on the wormwheel leading to grinding in one direction (forwards...) and its shaft coming too far out of the side of the box and rubbing on the frame. Soooo, I've removed it and taken it to bits... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2018 I admire your single-mindedness & determination!! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 Ok, gearbox now running beautifully, but movement still jerky. Maybe over-large coupling rod holes causing binding? Bushed them but still the same. Then perhaps I should have noticed earlier, but main axle bearing are slack, and axles can move around too much. So next plan to open them out and re-bush. Maybe it would have been better to start again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2018 Your determination is amazing, but I am worried that what you are doing might be, as we say, "lipstick on a pig" - it is still a pig! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 24, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 24, 2018 Axles re-bushed, fingers crossed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 25, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 25, 2018 Coupling rods bushed to actually match the wheelbase, and Bingo! Its all running fine. So time to put it all back together and sign off for Christmas... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 25, 2018 Merry Christmas to you Dave! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 DLT Happy Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 28, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2018 Right, its all reassembled, paintwork touched up here and there etc, I think it's done! Cheers, Dave. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 28, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2018 Your determination is amazing, but I am worried that what you are doing might be, as we say, "lipstick on a pig" - it is still a pig! I reckon all it needs now is the splasher lining redone and it will look a treat! I don't have any transfers that will suit, and it would need a lining pen to do it justice. Maybe its time I bought one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2018 Dave I really am most graetful - I think most people would have given up on this a long way back! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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