Early Risers.

[pH]

3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

The bulk Guinness tank was a rather dangerous work environment because after being emptied it had to be washed down to get it completely clean inside.  This was done by removing a manhole cover on the side then somebody climbed into it to make sure it was thoroughly washed from the top downwards before coming back out to finish off the bottom of the tank.  But when it was first installed nobody understood the danger involved in going inside it and somebody climbed in  immediately after the manhole had been opened - and within minutes collapsed, knocked out by Guinness fumes.  

 

There can be a similar problem with enclosed steel spaces which have rusted. Rusting is an oxidation process, so the oxygen in the space gets used up. There was an incident here a few years ago where someone entering a closed space in a derelict barge collapsed and had to be rescued.

[pH]

My uncle and aunt owned a pub in Ayr many years ago. They got their Guinness from Dublin, whereas everyone else got theirs from Park Royal. They had the ex-pat Irish trade sewn up. (That pun was completely unintentional - honestly!)

 

Best pint of Guinness I had was in the buffet at Manchester Central station. I considered missing the last train of the day to Chester in order to have another, but didn't.

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. The local Tess Coes had bread pudding in today, so I grabbed some. When I mentioned the Guiness tankers I was refering to the floating variety. Jamie mentioning milk stout reminded me of the early episodes of Coronation Street with the three old biddies sitting in the snug of the Rovers Return. Ena Sharples, Minnie Caldwell and Martha Longhurst, the name of the actress playing Martha was Lynne Carol who was my aunts next door neighbour in North Shore, Blackpool. A lot of the actors and actresses from Coronation Street lived in Blackpool as well as from other programs. John Comer (Sid the cafe owner from Last of the Summer Wine) lived just around the corner.

[JohnDMJ]

Good evening!

 

5 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

The bulk Guinness tank was a rather dangerous work environment because after being emptied it had to be washed down to get it completely clean inside.  This was done by removing a manhole cover on the side then somebody climbed into it to make sure it was thoroughly washed from the top downwards before coming back out to finish off the bottom of the tank.  But when it was first installed nobody understood the danger involved in going inside it and somebody climbed in  immediately after the manhole had been opened - and within minutes collapsed, knocked out by Guinness fumes.  After that nasty lesson the tank was always left a while with the manhole open to allow air to circulate and some hosing down was done before the 'cleaner' climbed in. and splashed about in his wellies in heavily diluted Guinness.

 

1 hour ago, pH said:

 

There can be a similar problem with enclosed steel spaces which have rusted. Rusting is an oxidation process, so the oxygen in the space gets used up. There was an incident here a few years ago where someone entering a closed space in a derelict barge collapsed and had to be rescued.

 

Anything associated with the brewing industry could be considered dangerous!

 

A bi-product of brewing is Carbon Dioxide which is heavier than oxygen.

 

Before Fullers in Chiswick, London, bought it out, Gales beer was brewed at Horndean in Hampshire.

 

On the brewery tour, we were informed that one MD had removed and placed his watch, ring, other valuables around the rim of a recently emptied fermentation vessel and climbed down to the bottom. His body was later found. Could Gales have been the only brew truly to have body?

[pH]

1 minute ago, JohnDMJ said:

On the brewery tour, we were informed that one MD had removed and placed his watch, ring, other valuables around the rim of a recently emptied fermentation vessel and climbed down to the bottom. His body was later found. Could Gales have been the only brew truly to have body?

 

Requests for a 'Groan' button are usually confined to the 'Jokes' topic!

Edited March 10, 2020 by pH

[Ozexpatriate]

When I lived in Chicago my son had a playmate his age. This little girl's grandfather worked in an oil refinery on the south side of Chicago. (Like in the very opening scenes of The Blues Brothers movie if anyone remembers that.)

 

The grandfather opened a pipe that was supposed to be empty. He dropped dead immediately from some kind of fumes.

 

Industrial plumbing can be nasty.

[Happy Hippo]

I returned home to find out that I had been tricked.

 

Yes, there was a Craft Klubb meeting, this afternoon, just not at the Hippodrome!

 

The Obergrumpenfuhrer has a tidy conservatory again.

 

However, she has just gone out to run the Rangers meeting, so I am minded to bring all the stuff back in from the garage, and then draw to curtains twixt sitting room and the glasshouse.

 

When she draws back those drapes in the morning, my life probably will not be worth living, so perhaps I'd better not bring it back in at all.

 

Well....................p'raps just a few bits!

 

The Hymek ran well at Llandrinio.

 

Unlike the Pannier who declined to turn a wheel.

 

I shall investigate this misbehaviour tomorrow.

 

I can hear the Irish fighting water calling to me.....................................................

[brianusa]

2 hours ago, AndyID said:

Not a big fan of Guinness although I did really like the clock in Paignton.

Plymouth also had one in Drake Circus.  Both long gone.

         Brian.

[southern42]

I have just had a chance to download some photos.  Hope they are of interest.

 

Going back a month, storm Ciara, brought down one of our trees at Betws.  This one taken on 29th February.

The track you see is for the tram which was damaged in a storm last year when a tree fell on top of the tram shed.

 

 

I took the following views on Saturday, 7th March on my morning track inspection.  It is the first view the passenger gets.  The tram shed is beyond.

 

Walking round in a circular route you get an idea of the enormity of it all.

 

 

The tram track disappears into the distance as the railway track comes round from the left.

 

Looking back towards the caravan site and you get another sense of its size.

 

The second view of the fallen tree that the passenger gets from the train as it bears off to the right in front of the large fir tree.  Part of the tram's overhead wire was also brought down.

 

Clearing the site is ongoing...

____________

Best wishes

Polly

[AndyID]

39 minutes ago, brianusa said:

Plymouth also had one in Drake Circus.  Both long gone.

         Brian.

 

I think I saw the one at Paignton in 1954 or 55. At five years old I was a bit too young to sample the actual product.

[tigerburnie]

Evening all, well that's a day lost, SWMBO had a minor eye concern, so off to specsavers, had to go back later for a sit and wait appointment, so spent several hours and two car park moves before getting back home and we still have to go back again….ho hum no muddling was done today and there's an outside chance of me disappearing up a mountain in the next couple of days chasing Hares and Ptarmigan with a Canon(not a gun but a camera lol), so muddling is on the back burner for a day or few...…………..

[AndyID]

58 minutes ago, AndyID said:

 

I think I saw the one at Paignton in 1954 or 55. At five years old I was a bit too young to sample the actual product.

 

I'm posting post this link in case any younger ERs are wondering what we're wittering on about.

 

https://manchesterhistory.net/bellevue/guinness.html

[Ozexpatriate]

4 hours ago, AndyID said:

Not a big fan of Guinness although I did really like the clock in Paignton.

 

2 hours ago, brianusa said:

Plymouth also had one in Drake Circus.  Both long gone.

 

1 hour ago, AndyID said:

I think I saw the one at Paignton in 1954 or 55. At five years old I was a bit too young to sample the actual product.

 

22 minutes ago, AndyID said:

I'm posting post this link in case any younger ERs are wondering what we're wittering on about.

Thanks for the education, I hadn't a clue.

 

"My Goodness!" it looks like they missed an opportunity to have a menagerie with pint glasses, (seals, toucans, kangaroos, emus and so on) popping out of the thing. 

[PeterBB]

8 hours ago, jamie92208 said:

Mackeson was of course brewed at Kirkstall in Leeds, visible from the railway line. Unfortunately it's now student flats.  However it was still going in the 80's and nursing mothers at Leeds Maternity  Hospital used to be given a bottle of Mackeson each night. Beth was a recipient when Martin was born in 1980. Perhaps that's why it was called milk stout.

 

Jamie

It was also given to chest patients in the 60s who obviously enjoyed it as well as to nearly term pregnant women.  In small doses alcohol enhances some of the liver enzymes but in large doses 'kills them off' and liver failure is the final result of those who drink to excess.

 

H&S has specific regulations for working in confined spaces and some of the scenes described above show how necessary they are.  The incident that comes to mind related to an emergency on-call into work.  The incident turned out to be truly devastating for the family, all were related, available respirators were not used - by the first nor the second when the first did not reappear and the third after the second did not reappear started to go in had a problem and dialled 999 before collapsing at the surface - he recovered.  Most confined spaces deaths occur(red) in petrol tankers during cleaning or in painting.  H&S is all about not becoming ill or injured in anything that you do (that includes home and especially ladders at home) - that's all, nothing to do with reams of paper and pots of money spent.  Obviously appropriate precautions etc. need to be taken and applied with the use of 'common sense' that also seems to mean different things to different 'cultures'.  The real problem comes when 'elf and sayfty' is an excuse for pure laziness or incompetence that gives H&S a bad name.  Rant over.

 

Edited March 10, 2020 by PeterBB
Rant following memory reminder

[laurenceb]

Night awl

[brianusa]

Good grief!  The clock face in Plymouth wasn't at all like that!  It was much older and perched on the side of a building and neon lit.  Most impressive for the time!

          Brian.

[JohnDMJ]

 

34 minutes ago, PeterBB said:

It was also given to chest patients in the 60s who obviously enjoyed it as well as to nearly term pregnant women.  In small doses alcohol enhances some of the liver enzymes but in large doses 'kills them off' and liver failure is the final result of those who drink to excess.

 

 

Is there not a published graph which looks like a tick with alcohol consumption along the X axis and benefits on the Y?

[truffy]

On 09/03/2020 at 16:22, BoD said:

ChrisF:  had you heard that Dublin has cancelled its St Patrick's Day parade? They must be very concerned (or cautious) to allow that to happen. Still, there's plenty of time for things to change between now and the end of June.

Pffftt, Basel cancelled three days of carnival! 

[Barry O]

Goodnight all!

Baz

[tigerburnie]

G'night all

[Coombe Barton]

1 hour ago, brianusa said:

Good grief!  The clock face in Plymouth wasn't at all like that!  It was much older and perched on the side of a building and neon lit.  Most impressive for the time!

          Brian.

As here

http://swib.wikidot.com/guinness-clock-drake-circus-1963

And here

http://www.oldplymouth.uk/Guinness Clock.htm

[BSW01]

Good evening everyone 

 

Well today has felt like I’ve taken 1 step forwards, then 2 steps backwards! Most of the afternoon I spent trying to find out why my point relay boards weren’t working properly, but I eventually finally found what the problem was. Although the relay was operating ok, the contacts weren’t, the normally closed contacts were opening, but the normally open contacts weren’t closing. So I swapped it for another board and that had the same fault. Eventually I tested all 28 boards as well as the 2 spare unused relays, each one had the same fault! However, to be fair, I didn’t pay for these, they were sourced from my old employer and were destined for the skip, I wish I’d left them there. So I rebuilt one board using a spare relay of a different type and it worked, so I need to get some more relays, I’ll put in an order for some more in the next day or so.

 

 Goodnight all 

[AndyID]

1 hour ago, brianusa said:

Good grief!  The clock face in Plymouth wasn't at all like that!  It was much older and perched on the side of a building and neon lit.  Most impressive for the time!

          Brian.

 

But definitely not as much fun

[PhilJ W]

Goodnight all.

[The Stationmaster]

G'night all