Early Risers.

[pH]

The snow has now arrived, about two hours later than the latest forecast.

[PupCam]

Evening All!

 

Multi-quote still not working .....  so I won't.

 

Today has mostly been spent making a Big Bertha Boring Bar and then using it.      5 thou cuts are being taken in due consideration of the slightly Heath Robinson work piece mounting and the fact that the cuts are interrupted multiple times during each revolution of the tool and there is approximately 0.5 " to chew through.    I make that 100 cuts, each cut (at the appropriate speed and feed rate in use) takes ~15 minutes .....  Alan has been doing quite a bit of garage tidying today whilst simultaneously "machine minding".      I could probably take a bigger cut but I don't want to risk the mount moving and the old Myford is, well, old and I'd like to keep in reasonably serviceable condition.     I'm very pleased with the quality of the finish from the carbide tipped tool.    This is how it's looking at the moment, just got to stick at it!

 

 

Night Awl.

 

Alan

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by PupCam

[Ozexpatriate]

16 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

Had the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party) and its charismatic leader never existed, then such was Germany at that time that an alternative ultra right wing ultranationalist party would have emerged.

That German corporal (more precisely gefreiter), a despatch runner, partially blinded in a mustard gas attack near Ypres on October 15, 1918, was sent to a military hospital in Pasewalk where a clergyman broke the news of the armistice to the patients.

 

He wrote:

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“I tottered … my way back to the dormitory, threw myself on my bunk, and dug my burning head into my blankets and pillow,” he wrote later. “That night I resolved that, if I recovered … I would enter politics.”

 

[monkeysarefun]

6 hours ago, AndyID said:

 

Calling a black adult male "boy" is extremely demeaning. It is a hangover from the days of slavery in the US. Some say it's even more offensive than the N word.

 

https://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/15/understanding-why-you-dont-call-a-black-man-a-boy/

 

 

 

 

 

A few years ago during  a telecast of our TV Logie awards (like the Oscars but heaps bigger - "which Neighbours or Home and Away star will get the Gold Logie this year!?!?")..

 

Gold Logie was being presented by Bert Newton, night time show host who's "catchphrase" was "I Like the Boy!"   fellow presenter that Bert Newton innocently tried  the catchphrase on during their podium banter was...

 

Mohammad Ali.

 

Hilarity ensued as you'd expect 

Edited November 29, 2022 by monkeysarefun

[Ozexpatriate]

16 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

... few appreciate that the war started on 7 July 1937 for China

The Japanese invasion of Manchuria began on September 18, 1931 with the 'Mukden* Incident' (a false flag operation staged by the Empire of Japan as a pretext to invade). If there is a 'start point'** I would suggest that this is it.

 

* Shenyang, provincial capital of the Liaoning Province of the PRC.

 

** Separate from the tensions around Entente/Allied powers interventions in the Russian Civil War until war-weariness at home had them gradually withdraw variously from 1919 through 1925.

[monkeysarefun]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

I was once threatend by someone with a knife near my flat, but after a few moments he decided it wasn't worth it.  However I do remember a time when someone living in another flat in the building let someone in who got into my flat and stole my girlfriend's purse.  Neither of us were amused, the culprit was never caught.

 

 

 

Did heaps of travelling around the city and riding trains after dark in the 80's going to bands, etc. Never ever felt threatened or saw anything that made me feel threatened,  except once, and that wasn't by some member of the public but by 2 try-hard wanna-be-real-coppers of the NSW  Transit Cops who made me and my mates get off a train at gunpoint in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere because one of us had had an issue with the ticket seller before we boarded because they wouldn't recognise his Uni concession card. ...

Edited November 29, 2022 by monkeysarefun

[jamie92208]

4 hours ago, polybear said:

amongst the guests were the Tornado Trials Team from Warton.  Meanwhile, a certain Bear - who was working with the Team - was all snuggly wuggly in bed in The Red Lion, following a nice scoff in the Italian in Town.....😁

 

You didn't by any chance come across a Tonka Test Pilot called Dave Tanner alias Uncle T amongst the team.  He's a mutual  friend of myself and Dave Hunt.

 

Jamie

Edited November 29, 2022 by jamie92208

[Ozexpatriate]

12 hours ago, TheQ said:

Deaths of people in Russia after WW1 have a lot to do with the communist revolution, more civil war (with one side being given some outside assistance)  rather than WW1.

The "Allied intervention" in the Russian Civil War was by the same Allied/Entente powers who fought the "Central Powers" in the "Great War".

 

If one considers that the Bolshevik Revolution occurred, in part, as a result of the "Great War" then there is continuity of the wider conflict.

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170 British troops arrived [in Murmansk] on 4 March 1918, the day after the signing of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk

This overlap is significant.

 

Churchill (Secretary of State for War and Secretary of State for Air) was a staunch advocate of intervention and very unhappy that Britain and the Allies withdrew from the Russian Civil War.

[Ozexpatriate]

12 hours ago, TheQ said:

Ben the I'm not sure about this Collie,

He'll be a happy doggie in about 10 working days.

[Ozexpatriate]

9 hours ago, The Lurker said:

Presumably because "boy" was what a white man called a black man, asserting his own superiority.

9 hours ago, TheQ said:

Of course, Boy in these contexts can have a much older derivation, ...

In the context of the song Chattanooga Choo Choo, "Boy" is almost certainly someone like a Pullman Porter* - who, in the US, were black and usually adults.

 

* Or similar station attendant.

 

Oops - just saw Andy's ( @AndyID ) post. It's been heavy weather slogging though this thread today - performance is slower than usual and the ads seem worse somehow.

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Ozexpatriate
Link to Andy's post.

[Ozexpatriate]

54 minutes ago, monkeysarefun said:

Bert Newton

Is he still on TV? (He asks mind-bogglingly.) He is only about six months younger than my dad.

[PhilJ W]

Goodnight all.

[Ozexpatriate]

1 hour ago, pH said:

The snow has now arrived, about two hours later than the latest forecast.

None here, though the snow level was forecast at 1,500' / 450m. Hope it's not too disruptive.

 

Today is dreadfully dreary. I managed to get my walk in under heavy overcast before there was any persistent rain and very light rain has been falling on and off since but it is very dim outside. With the mid-November dry spell, we're still in a rain deficit, so we need the rain.

 

Tomorrow should see more mountain snow.

[monkeysarefun]

23 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said:

Is he still on TV? (He asks mind-bogglingly.) He is only about six months younger than my dad.

He went  to the great Channel 9 in the sky about 12 months ago. His wife Patti is still going strong though (Not to be confused with Little Patti, as you'd know...) 

[Ozexpatriate]

2 minutes ago, monkeysarefun said:

He went  to the great Channel 9 in the sky about 12 months ago.

Thanks. I had heard that but forgot. Your comment made me think he was still around.

[monkeysarefun]

Just now, Ozexpatriate said:

Thanks. I had heard that but forgot. Your comment made me think he was still around.

Handy Whos dead  guide to Australian celebrities of the 70's and early 80's in case the news didnt make it to you there:

 

Dead!

"Mr Movies" Bill Collins

Ross Higgins ("Not the Kingswood!")

Jon English 

John Hamblin (Playschool presenter who mastered in double entendres that went over the heads of 5 year olds)

Various Country Practice actors - "Cookie" Syd Heylen, plumber Bob Gordon Piper, and Esmee Watsons Joyce Jacobs. Is there a "Curse Of Country Practice" or did they just cast old people back in the 80's who are now just dying of old age? You be the judge.

Don Lane - US tonight show guy who came here to be a big fish in a little pond.

Graham Kennedy 

Max Tangles Walker

(Annoyingest voice on TV) Jeannie Little

 

Not yet dead:

 

Ugly Dave Gray

[zarniwhoop]

Well, that was an interesting evening - cooked some red cabbage with onion, a small amount of semi-sauted potatoes, a pepper, some pre-cooked chestnuts, canned tomatoes, sweet smoked paprika, walnuts, red wine vinegar. In best Sam Vimes style I allowed it to dry out at one point, to get the burnt bits. Tasted great, but near the end my throat (not sure where - I didn't do biology) and swallowing - even sips of water - was too painful and I ended up by coughing up a lot of phlegm. I suspect some burned smoked paprika was the cause.

 

Had to lie down, after 30 minutes I was fine. But I had similar experiences (different foods) a couple of years ago, hope they are not returning. At least I didn't have to make an offering to Vometia on this occasion.

 

Summary: fine at the moment, hope it was a one-off and I can go back to invoking the goddess Anoia (when necessary) and worshipping Bibulous.😊

 

https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Gods

[AndyID]

1 hour ago, Ozexpatriate said:

None here, though the snow level was forecast at 1,500' / 450m. Hope it's not too disruptive.

 

Today is dreadfully dreary. I managed to get my walk in under heavy overcast before there was any persistent rain and very light rain has been falling on and off since but it is very dim outside. With the mid-November dry spell, we're still in a rain deficit, so we need the rain.

 

Tomorrow should see more mountain snow.

 

We are supposed to get clobbered again late tonight. I hope it's really late because I have to drive fifty miles to the airport to pickup MrsID.

[BSW01]

Good evening everyone 

 

Well I’ve had quite a productive day, moving stuff about in the underfloor storage area, getting things into what will now be there final position. I’ve even been able to get half a dozen boxes shifted from the big cellar room as well. Hopefully by the end of the day tomorrow (if I’m able to get back down there) I should have all the boxes moved, leaving just the bits of wood that will be used to make a bookshelf for Sheila’s sewing room. 

 

This afternoon, Sheila had her 6 monthly eye checkup at the opticians. Whilst she was there she was told that there is approximately a 6 - 9 month wait for her laser eye surgery, so we’ve made the decision to go private. Given that she’s now about 60% blind I’m quite happy to go down that route if it makes her life both better and easier. We’ve now just got to wait to hear back from the hospital. 

Edited November 30, 2022 by BSW01

[BSW01]

Goodnight all 

[jjb1970]

2 hours ago, Ozexpatriate said:

The Japanese invasion of Manchuria began on September 18, 1931 with the 'Mukden* Incident' (a false flag operation staged by the Empire of Japan as a pretext to invade). If there is a 'start point'** I would suggest that this is it.

 

* Shenyang, provincial capital of the Liaoning Province of the PRC.

 

** Separate from the tensions around Entente/Allied powers interventions in the Russian Civil War until war-weariness at home had them gradually withdraw variously from 1919 through 1925.

 

I think it highlights that identifying when wars start is far from simple. And it can be even more difficult to identify when they end. We have an example in front of us, the war in South Eastern Ukraine started in 2014 and the underlying tensions go back to the break-up of the USSR (that's without getting into the historic enmity between ethnic Russians and Ukrainian people which is hardly unusual). The change in February was direct involvement by Russia but Ukraine and the breakaway regions of Lugansk and Donetsk had a vicious war in 2014 - 15 and kept shelling eachother for the years following stabilization along a contact line.

[jjb1970]

8 hours ago, AndyID said:

I worked for ITT in the 80s and on business trips we were obliged to stay at Sheraton hotels as they in the ITT conglomerate. On one trip I had to go to Hartford in Connecticut. I'd never been to Connecticut before and I thought it would be quite nice - sort of New Englandy.

 

The Sheraton I was staying at was surrounded by an an eight foot high chain-link fence with a security guard at the gate 😀

 

I had a similar experience in Oakland once. I joined a container ship there, because it was delayed I ended up with about three days to go sightseeing etc. On day one the doorman insisted he get me a taxi, I said no need as it was a short walk into the centre. He was so insistent I agreed, when the taxi drove through the area between the hotel and the downtown I realized why he had been so insistent. I think a big difference is that those areas in British cities are more segregated from the nice areas so most people never see them. I am from Carlisle, a small city in the Northwest of England, despite being in the idyllic county of Cumbria and a short drive from the Lake District and adjacent to the beautiful Solway Coast and Hadrian's wall country there are some seriously troubled areas in Carlisle, as intimidating as anywhere I've been.

[Ozexpatriate]

1 hour ago, jjb1970 said:

... the war in South Eastern Ukraine started in 2014 and the underlying tensions go back to the break-up of the USSR (that's without getting into the historic enmity between ethnic Russians and Ukrainian people

Cultures have long memories. I'd say 'tensions' go back at least to the Kievan Rus' and the Golden Horde in the 13th century - relevant to the "Tartars" in Crimea where the thread of history is linked to the 19th century Crimean war (related to, but a century after Imperial Russian annexation of Crimea in 1783) and the Soviet-era Tatar 'deportation' (aka ethnic cleansing) by one of Stalin's minions in 1944.

 

Stalin's role in the Ukrainian famine of 1933 (Holodomor) cannot be understated in Russo-Ukrainian relations.

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Ozexpatriate

[Erichill16]

Morning All,

Not sleeping very well tonight and feeling a bit peckish so up having a very early breakfast.

Not been around much lately but not for the usual reason which involves  Sydney, mil and nephews, one of whom is off school at the moment.

Spent a good part of the last couple of days making a start on sorting things out at mums and the old business premises which are adjoining properties. In effect we have only scratched the surface and realised what a large undertaking it’s going to be. Mum is over faced by it all so and is keeping away while SWMBO and myself sort out area’s that we feel we don’t need her input, namely the old business premises and dad’s workshop.

Today will be more like usual as ‘ ill’ nephew will be coming round with Syd and mil won’t be far away. we’re having a quick visit from our financial advisor to let us know quite how bed our pension pots have been performing. In other words a whoopie do kind of a day.

Oh, just forget, we volunteered to take elder nephew to his kickboxing class tonight which doesn’t start until 8.00pm. Whoopie do again.

Back to bed and hopefully a bit of sleep.

 

[Ozexpatriate]

1 hour ago, jjb1970 said:

I had a similar experience in Oakland once.

Oakland had a bad reputation for a good reason. I remember years ago (long before sat-navs) leaving a night baseball game at the Oakland Coliseum to head back south to the south bay area. Traffic flow leaving the game was modified such that I could not get on the closest I880 entrance and I ended up driving through neighbourhoods where I hadn't intended, eyes peeled for a freeway sign. This drive was very uncomfortable - lots of vignettes like big guys standing in a pool of light outside a liquor store. I wasn't stopping to ask for directions.

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Ozexpatriate