Early Risers.

[Erichill16]

Put the dog in the kennel for now. 
I like to read conspiracy theories, how conclusions are made from the evidence available.

Ive read quite a bit about the Philadelphia experiment and one of the books i read about it is  categorised as ‘fiction’. I cant remember any concrete evidence to support the theories.

On the other hand I find the topic of the ‘Nazi bell’ much more interesting. There is, literally concrete evidence of something but trying to explain it much more compelling. 
Id give references to books but out shopping.

Another good one but ive mentioned it before is ‘Titanic, the ship that never sank’

Robert

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by Erichill16

[PupCam]

Afternoon All!

 

We enjoyed a pleasant but short "constitutional" walk up to the church and back this morning.  It might have been longer but we bumped into some good friends and stood nattering for ages.

 

After that we set off on a mission to buy Puppers a new desk chair.   The old one has given Sterling service but was past it's sell by date by a few years, tending to leave bits of  the "flaked off imitation leather" all over the floor .  Mrs Puppers is not pleased by such occurrences ......

 

Having previously completed some online research Puppers was not hopeful of finding one locally that was both to his liking and his wallet in the usual local outlets.    However he recalled an independent trader down in Welwyn that specializes in both new and re-conditioned second hand office furniture.  In fact we bought some new filing cabinets from them a few years ago and have been very pleased with them so we thought we'd give them a go.

 

I was amused by how familiar some of the second-hand desks and chairs seemed but do bear in mind this establishment is only five or six miles as the crow flies from a certain well known Great Empire and I suppose they have to get their stock from wherever they can 😂...      The decision came down to a new and very comfortable static "Gaming Chair" (no vibration, rumbling  or other dynamic facilities) @ ~ £230 +VAT and an as-new, second-hand ergonomic office chair with independently adjustable back  and base, height (of course) and lumber support for £89 + VAT.      Working on the principle that the office chair would be better made and the fact that it was considerably cheaper the office chair won.    Anyway, we definitely scored a Bull's Eye 😀.   

 

It was nice to support a local, independent trader who gave very good service.   For anyone local I can recommend them:

              http://www.gwbofficefurniture.co.uk/

 

So, this afternoon involved a trip to the Tidy Tip to get shot of the old one.  Strangely enough I did not feel the need to turf it out en-route in any old lay-by  or country lane!

 

TTFNQ

 

Alan

 

 

[Ian Abel]

18 hours ago, monkeysarefun said:

Don't get me started on Tartorian beliefs I'll bore the pants off you because its been a bit of a hobby of mine over the last couple of months..

 

I've managed across a couple of other amusing rabbit holes, if you really want to wase some time and become even MORE convinced that a large percentage of the populous are simply nuts, try "Sovreign Citizens" and "First Amendment Auditors" - there is some cross-over, that's how I ran across both while first going down the SovCit hole 

SovCits appear to be rather world-wide but a largest portion in the US, whereas the other group are pretty much here, given they are rambling on about the US First Amendment and their need to determine it is being followed correctly. Their problem is they don't actually understand it in the first place - no surprises there, of course...

 

 

3 hours ago, Dave Hunt said:

Returning to the subject of conspiracy theorists, an acquaintance of mine is a dyed-in-the-wool believer that the 'truth' about UFOs is being withheld by world governments and in particular by the military. Some time ago he asked me how many UFOs I had seen, to which I replied that not only had I never seen one in the whole of my flying career but I'd never met anyone who had. His answer to that was that I therefore must be part of the cover up, thus proving that all military pilots were so involved. Nothing I could say would change his mind. Now, this chap is otherwise a seemingly rational, intelligent human being but his belief is so overwhelmingly strong that anything that runs counter to it must, of necessity, be a lie. 

 

Note that the question is not whether I believe that earth is/has been visited by UFOs but whether or not I will admit that the evidence is being covered up.

 

Dave

For this one, my "go too" is Neil deGrasse Tyson (Astrophysicist) he's very interesting to hear and also read, several books by him.

The following is an older, but just as good as his current talks/explanations, on the question of UFOs, it's only 11 minutes but it's worth the time, funny and to the point also;

Neil deGrasse Tyson Aliens and UFOs

 

 

BIN day...

 

Yesterday excursion to Costco was a surprise - it was quite QUIET and we managed to get our new cards as well as shop for the family reunion with NO PROBLEMS!

 

Today, Mrs is off over with Jemma baking rye bread, from a great-grandmas special recipe, for the reunion. 

I'm working <yawn>

Getting my ears lowered later, apparently, I need to be more presentable than my current state!

 

Weather has decided to be nicer to us, 19 first thing, sunny moderate breeze and only 27-28 for the high - at least that's the forecast/promise.

 

Carry on.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by Ian Abel

[polybear]

Bear here.....

A certain Mer Martin Bashir should be charged with, er, something or other - lying little b'sterd.  Perhaps the Beeb should sue him for recovery of what they've had to shell out in compo; the Beeb are not exactly blameless either.  That's a Rant.

And another Rant....

If Bear Towers were ever burgled I wonder if The Plod would telephone a thousand cabbies trying to track down the culprits?  Or just issue a crime number.....

With all the money the Ecclestones have you would have thought they'd (a) have (or turn on) an alarm system, (b) lock the 6" thick reinforced steel door to the goodies, and (c) have the common sense not to announce on the web that they'll be away from home.  Hmmm, (c) might be asking a little too much....

[simontaylor484]

@polybear  the stupidity of the Ecclestones seems unlimited £25 million of cash and diamonds in the house.  Shame they couldn't have kidnapped Bernie and kept him 

 

That's 2 big BBC lies now the Diana interview and the Coverage of Cliff Richards arrest hope they have to sell Albert Square to pay the damages happen the next residents will actually have washing machines? 

 

@Erichill16 do you mean Die Glocke

 

And the theory that it was actually Olympic that sunk whilst disguised as Titanic 

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by simontaylor484
Further thoughts

[Erichill16]

13 minutes ago, simontaylor484 said:

 

@Erichill16 do you mean Die Glocke

 

And the theory that it was actually Olympic that sunk whilst disguised as Titanic 

 

Yes. (Glocke is German for bell)

Yes again, an ‘insurance job’

[New Haven Neil]

@polybear 

Are there really only two "on the books"?  Is it a particularly rare variant of XL250?

Hmmm.....swapped?  Part-exchanged sounds better to this Bear.  

 

Only 2 registered on DVLA, there will be others in the back of garages in tea chests!  It's an  XL250K3 1976, one year only model, didn't sell well as it wasn't as good as the then new KL250 Kwacker, so yes, rare.  I've only seen one other over here TT week which was one of the two! 

 

The next year the S version came out and wiped the board, heaps better than the KL.  I've had a XL250SA, much better in all respects except character, it didn't have any.  The value of old trail bikes may surprise you.....it's worth about the same or perhaps more than an early 80's CB750FD unless it was a low mileage, original minter.....really. 😲

[simontaylor484]

Interestingly the BBC news website mentions dodgy selfies sent to hotel staff by a guest that was instrumental in catching the Ecclestones thieves 

[Ozexpatriate]

5 hours ago, Dave Hunt said:

Returning to the subject of conspiracy theorists, an acquaintance of mine is a dyed-in-the-wool believer that the 'truth' about UFOs is being withheld by world governments and in particular by the military.

The released UAP footage from USN/USAF, heads up/targeting/tactical displays is intriguing, and remain, of course, "unexplained" and being declassified, are hardly "withheld".

 

1 hour ago, Ian Abel said:

The following is an older, but just as good as his current talks/explanations, on the question of UFOs, it's only 11 minutes but it's worth the time, funny and to the point also;

Neil deGrasse Tyson Aliens and UFOs

The audio on that video is so bad I gave up.

1 hour ago, Ian Abel said:

...my "go too" is Neil deGrasse Tyson (Astrophysicist) he's very interesting to hear and also read, several books by him.

I particularly enjoyed his "naming rights" lecture where he posits the danger to scientific learning in societies that willfully embrace religious fundamentalism. He illustrates the point by showcasing the fact that solar system names are Greco/Roman while two thirds of stellar names are Persian and Arabic (named at the height of Islamic sciences - think algebra) but makes the argument that this learning fell off a cliff in the 12th century with the teachings of Hamid Al-Ghazali where philosophy (and theological conformity) overtakes observational science.

 

I found the argument quite compelling.

 

Edited July 21, 2022 by Ozexpatriate

[New Haven Neil]

Oh, making space in the garage meant this could come out from under the layout where it has lived sheeted up for the last few years.  Also rare, only 10 registered on DVLA, we own three - but they're not on DVLA of course.

 

[PeterBB]

7 hours ago, polybear said:

 

It annoys Bear intensely that there a substantial number of total f**kwits that are too effin' lazy to squash a cardboard box flat before putting it in a wheelie bin.  Don't they realise that they'll get ten times the amount in a bin by doing that simple action?  And it's about time that the cameras that supposedly monitor people who dump stuff in the recycling bins - and all around the bins too (ironing boards, polystyrene, pushchairs......) (a) actually worked, and (b) were used to seriously fine those T0ssers that are intent on fly tipping.

Yep, that most definitely is a Rant.

 

 

Most definitely agree with this one - annoyed me when at work - take a box, flattened (and with tape removed) to find the bin 'full'. and then spend a minute or few taking them out  and re-fitting.  If the originator had folded the total time taken to do the folding would be less than me having to put mine down, remove said box or boxes, fold and then put all in the recycling bin - totally agree with your rant Polybear.

Edited July 21, 2022 by PeterBB
Typo viz the thought of Polymer ...

[PupCam]

1 hour ago, Ian Abel said:

For this one, my "go too" is Neil deGrasse Tyson (Astrophysicist) he's very interesting to hear and also read, several books by him.

The following is an older, but just as good as his current talks/explanations, on the question of UFOs, it's only 11 minutes but it's worth the time, funny and to the point also;

Neil deGrasse Tyson Aliens and UFOs

 

I've not come across him before and irrespective of the quality of the audio on that clip, I like him!    

I can see I a significant amount of time being spent catching up now I've actually arrived at the party!    

Many thanks for educating me Ian 👍

 

34 minutes ago, simontaylor484 said:

That's 2 big BBC lies now the Diana interview and the Coverage of Cliff Richards arrest hope they have to sell Albert Square to pay the damages happen the next residents will actually have washing machines?

 

Only 2?    Cynical old Puppers ........

 

Perhaps the head of the BBC's Factual Programming Department (if there is one) should check out the dictionary definition of factual? 🤔

 

BFN

 

Alan

[PupCam]

5 minutes ago, PeterBB said:

 - totally agree with yoour rant Polymer.

 

Nooooooooooooo!   

 

Is Bear made of plastic, that's shocking news (but probably factual to some organisations)! 🤣

[simontaylor484]

@New Haven Neil are you going into competition with Arfur Daley? 

[New Haven Neil]

7 minutes ago, simontaylor484 said:

@New Haven Neil are you going into competition with Arfur Daley? 

 

We have a 'few' bikes......less than we used to have!

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. Just after I got out of the bath this morning Si Attica made a surprise attack. He hung around all day despite application of Nurofen. I managed to make it to the hairdressers to have my ears lowered but afterwards I had an eyelid inspection and he'd gone when I awoke.

[PhilJ W]

5 hours ago, simontaylor484 said:

@AndrewC if only there wad a market for pre loved,pre stained mattresses I would have made a fortune.

Sofas and tv cabinets and microwaves were the next most popular fly tipped items we regularly had to shift 

There is (or was) a market for pre-loved and pre-stained mattresses. There was a gang who obtained such mattresses and simply replaced the covering. It came to light when a purchaser had a nasty smell coming from her 'new' cheap mattress. It turned out that the previous owner of the mattress had died in bed and hadn't been found for a couple of weeks.

[PhilJ W]

I have an interest in Jack the Ripper and if your looking for conspiracy theories it is fertile ground, and thats without some of the crazier theories as to who he was or even who his victims were. I have my own theory but it goes against the accepted mantra even though it is more probable than some theories put forward.

[simontaylor484]

14 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

There is (or was) a market for pre-loved and pre-stained mattresses. There was a gang who obtained such mattresses and simply replaced the covering. It came to light when a purchaser had a nasty smell coming from her 'new' cheap mattress. It turned out that the previous owner of the mattress had died in bed and hadn't been found for a couple of weeks.

Where is the eeuurgh button

[simontaylor484]

There have been some interesting theories to the identity of Jack The Ripper from a member of the Royal Family to an American and various others.

I do like to try to keep an open mind to things but with some I do struggle 

[Ian Abel]

57 minutes ago, PupCam said:

 

I've not come across him before and irrespective of the quality of the audio on that clip, I like him!    

I can see I a significant amount of time being spent catching up now I've actually arrived at the party!    

Many thanks for educating me Ian 👍

 

 

If you have the time, try his book "Astrophysics for People in a Hurry" it's very entertaining as well as enlightening if you want to try it.

Worth the read even if you aren't wanting to be on the talk-show circuit 🤣

[monkeysarefun]

8 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

Which probably means (although I have to check) that it is out of warranty.

 

Thought the EU had an 'implied warranty" like we have here?

 

Basically the idea is that an expensive item like Laptop, TV, fridge etc should be expected to last a lot longer than the 1 year warranty period so if it has an issue in its 2nd or 3rd year the seller is required to cover the costs - the ratio of which will slide the older the item gets, so you might get full replacement value after 18 months, but that'll reduce as time passes.

 

Sellers by law have to let buyers know this at purchase time, which annoys them since they would much rather spend that time trying to sell some kind of expensive "extended warranty" which is actually superfluous here, given these regulations.

[monkeysarefun]

5 hours ago, PeterBB said:

Just a thought - what are their thoughts on space exploration?

Do you really want me to send you some links?

[PhilJ W]

5 minutes ago, simontaylor484 said:

There have been some interesting theories to the identity of Jack The Ripper from a member of the Royal Family to an American and various others.

I do like to try to keep an open mind to things but with some I do struggle 

Indeed, The member of the royal family who was put forward as a suspect, Prince Albert Victor was easily eliminated by examining royal records that clearly gives him an alibi. As a 'senior' royal (Queen Victoria's grandson and second in line to the throne) his movements are a matter of record. The American, H H Holmes was a notorious serial killer in Chicago at the same time as JTR but is highly unlikely to be JTR.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes

[simontaylor484]

Istr a cotton merchant from Liverpool putting himself in the frame in a diary and DNA "evidence" indicating a Polish immigrant.

 

I read Fortean Times occasionally there is some interesting stiff other is just guff

 

I have a passing interest in the Paranormal