Early Risers.

[PhilJ W]

Evening all from Estuary-Land. Still a bit sticky but the pollen is dying down and I can breath again. A fox has apparently taken up residence in my back garden. A rather small one so probably one of this years cubs, I went out earlier and placed a bowl of water for it where it will be in the shade at midday and a couple of hours each side.

[jonny777]

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1 minute ago, New Haven Neil said:

 

Ah, I meant summer time in winter, double summer time in....summer!  Basically moving everything forward one hour, all year.

 

But BST in the winter was tried in the late 1960s and rejected because it was too dark in the mornings.

[PhilJ W]

Its about time this putting clocks backwards and forwards stopped. It was only created to increase munition production in WW1 and should have been scrapped years ago.

[Coombe Barton]

25 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said:

We'd prefer double summer time.

During the war double summer time applied. GMT+! in winter, GMT+2 in summer

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/jun/24/comment.mainsection2

[jonny777]

1 minute ago, PhilJ W said:

Its about time this putting clocks backwards and forwards stopped. It was only created to increase munition production in WW1 and should have been scrapped years ago.

 

So you would not mind it being dark by 9pm in July and 8pm in August? 

 

 

[New Haven Neil]

7 minutes ago, jonny777 said:

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But BST in the winter was tried in the late 1960s and rejected because it was too dark in the mornings.

 

Yup - but we disagree!  I remember it.  It's dark in the mornings anyway oop north in the winter, another hour makes no difference, the extra hour later, when people are tired, has always struck me as a better idea.

Edited July 17, 2021 by New Haven Neil

[jonny777]

2 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said:

 

Yup - but we disagree!  I remember it.  It's dark in the mornings anyway oop north in the winter, another hour makes no difference, the extra hour later, when people are tired, has always struck me as a better idea.

 

I remember it too. It was horrible.

 

On cloudy days in December it didn't get properly light until about 11am. I don't know how far north 'oop north' professes to be, but from memory it was northern England and Scottish farmers who objected to the idea most strongly. 

[simontaylor484]

16 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

Its about time this putting clocks backwards and forwards stopped. It was only created to increase munition production in WW1 and should have been scrapped years ago.

Same with the old licencing laws made so munitions workers didnt blow themselves up

[simontaylor484]

I am surprised no one has suggested messing around with clocks for environmental reasons giving more daylight when it's needed. 

[New Haven Neil]

8 minutes ago, jonny777 said:

 

I remember it too. It was horrible.

 

On cloudy days in December it didn't get properly light until about 11am. I don't know how far north 'oop north' professes to be, but from memory it was northern England and Scottish farmers who objected to the idea most strongly. 

 

Tyneside then, IoM now - so not much difference - my opinion differs, sorry!

[jamie92208]

1 hour ago, Ozexpatriate said:

Which reminds me of Alice's Restaurant:

 

Rubbish cab be useful sometimes. My first car was stolen and the theft was detected because an envelope addressed to my aunt in Keswick was found in a garage in South Leeds. She'd given me a load of envelopes to bring back for my father to cut thevstamps off in aid of Oxfam.  The defence barrister at Crown court was a lad I had gone to school with.  The thieves both went down.

 

Jamie

[Ozexpatriate]

There is a big movement toward year-round daylight saving time here. All the western states have an agreement to implement it when all the legislatures decree it.

 

I don't like it, primarily for school children. I don't want them to have to go to school in the dark in winter - I'm sure they have to in Scotland, but here the latitude is around the same as central France (45°N) and with standard time it is barely light at 8:00am in the winter which is sufficient.

 

The answer isn't to keep changing the clocks. Go back to astronomical time (keeping time zones) where the sun is at the zenith around noon. Just change work and school hours to roughly match a set period after dawn. We now have so much electronic calendaring - even with things like television guides that it is entirely workable, without changing the clocks all the time.

[Andrew P]

I don't like dark evenings, its got dark now. 

[tigerburnie]

G'night all

[BSW01]

Good evening everyone 

 

Another scorcheroo here again today, blue skies and no visible clouds seen at all today, it got to 27C this afternoon, quite warm for our usual temperatures. Apart from watering the plants this afternoon, no outside work has been done. It got very warm working in the cellar today, even with the doors open! I packed up a little earlier than usual, as Sheila was opening Vidal Baboons hair boutique, so a hair cut I have had!

 

So, apart from a small pile of rubbish, which I will take to the tip on Monday morning, all that is left in the cellar is a chair, a trestle table and a small wheeled games table, that I have my toolbox and hand tools etc on! The chair, the trestle table are used when Charlie comes round to do some modelling and they, along with the games table can be easily stored in the office when Ian can start plastering. 

 

The evening was rounded off with a nice bottle of Shiraz and a film, tonight’s choice was the 1st film in the John Wick series. It is all a bit far fetched but enjoyable non the less. 

[BSW01]

Goodnight all 

[leopardml2341]

Goodnight folks,

[PhilJ W]

Goodnight all.

[laurenceb]

Night awl

[J. S. Bach]

Night Owl from the Piedmont.

[zarniwhoop]

4 hours ago, Andrew P said:

I don't like dark evenings, its got dark now. 

As someone who sometimes lurks here but has only rarely been an early riser (in the 1980s and 1990s, either when called out for  work (computing, to fix batch runs) or to ride a bike (for NHN that was pedal cycles) I've never quite understood what ERs is about, except that parallel rails are O/T. Trying to reach versions before the current rmweb is now  not possible, so my guess is that either people relate what they have been doing, or that they are *required* to rate previous posts.

 

If the latter, I have no interest.  If the former,  I might be tempted to post here. But in the meantime, can I suggest that triple summertime (summer) and double summertime (winter) would be better, at least here on the South Coast of the septic isle ?

[chrisf]

Greetings one and all

 

As I type this the perspiration is pouring off me.  But for the electric fan in my bedroom I might well have spent the night lying in a salty pool before the bedclothes absorbed it.  Ugh! That apart, I’m off to Hatfield House later this morning for Folk By The Oak.  The weather forecast augurs well for an open air concert, though it does not mention the desired balmy breeze.  The sun block has been packed, as has my collapsible brolly just in case.  Food and drink will be on sale at the event to supplement the modest picnic that I have prepared.  A few anxious moments accompanied the search for my cool-dude sunglasses.  They turned up in my camera bag.  Well, where else would they have been?  The musical bill of fare includes the Sam Sweeney Band, Kitty Macfarlane and Kate Rusby, but sadly not the Young’uns, for one of them has tested positive for Covid.  An unexpected bonus is that their place on the bill will be taken by Jim Moray.  That gentleman has an infinite capacity to surprise!

 

To bins and their contents.  Here in Bedford we have a grey bin for ordinary refuse, an orange bin for recycling and a green bin for garden waste.  We also have rubrics governing what goes into which bin that do not entirely conform to the practice of other authorities.  Food waste goes in with general rubbish but glass and clothing belong in designated skips parked in supermarket car parks.  All this is a classic case of Chris’s First Law of Government, which states in essence that things are not the same because they do not have to be.  Never mind: it gives us something else to discuss.

 

Best wishes to all

 

Chris   

[iL Dottore]

2 hours ago, zarniwhoop said:

….so my guess is that either people relate what they have been doing, or that they are *required* to rate previous posts.

 

If the latter, I have no interest.  If the former,  I might be tempted to post here…

Good Morning Zarniwhoop (and all),

 

ER is much, much more than people just relating what they did that day. Posting is incredibly varied, the first time or the casual observer may think that posting on ER is at the level of  “what I did in my holidays” or “today I’m happy/angry”, but there is a lot of shared informed erudition, black humour and - for want of a better term - running jokes on this thread. Discussions can take place over several days, starting (to refer to a recent topic) with one subject matter (types of wheelie bins) and then gloriously morphing to cover another interesting and related topic (in this case, frequency and types of rubbish collection around Britain).

In addition, and one of the great things about ER, is that you will get a lot of support from ER posters if you have problems or concerns that you might want to just “bounce off“ somebody else to see if your thinking is going in the right direction or if you are genuinely at a loss at what to do next. Such support may take the form of a posting with a response to your issue or, often, a PM from someone with insider knowledge providing some useful hints, tips and observations.

 

Overall, ER posters are a tolerant (and tolerable) lot, although sometimes someone does (very, very rarely) get “bent out of shape“ about something or other and we do have one or two “drive-by“ posters, but compared to other social media platforms, ER on RMWeb is a very civilised corner of the Internet indeed. But be warned, given that the average age of ER posters is trending upwards, you may find that observations on, and comments about, certain social, political and economic Issues tend to be a lot more “robust” than is normally the case nowadays. Probably this reflects the huge amount of accumulated life experience on ER and a view of the world that is based on lived-in reality rather than wishful thinking.

 

The rating of posts is a relatively new development for ER (I believe it was put in place with the last major platform software update. Possibly to attract the younger, social media savvy, railway modeller). It is certainly optional and, to be honest, I still haven’t figured it out how it is used as sometimes there seems to be - to my eyes - a disconnect between the content of the post and the responses that that post garners. 
 

One final thought: I recommend occasionally using emojis to help convey nuance in your posts. Without the inflections, tones and emphasis of the spoken word a statement such as “ my hamster got CoVID-19 and now I have to self-isolate“ could be construed as anything from a whinge to a sarcastic or cynical comment. Emojis help return some of the nuances of the English language when used in social media  but, like adding salt to your meal, emojis are best use sparingly and in carefully selected places. 

Welcome aboard. 
 

iD

[TheQ]

Clear editor, still showing the text of several days ago.

A good night's sleep of 5 hours solid plus 1.5 hours on the sofa.

 

The MRC has voted to keep in bubble format for the moment.

The sailing club has said it will be still having social events during the regatta, but is having gazebos put up so more can sit under cover outside "but in the open"  in separate groups , we are a family oriented club. They also are keeping one way systems , reduced seating in the club house, and events that don't need such close contact as normal.

 

Ben the I want assurance Collie is currently snoring in his bed having dragged me out earlier. The northerly breeze has returned, it won't be that warm out there today.

 

All joints in the lower half of the body are aching at least it's not my back,

 

I'll start the day out there with attempting another mow to widen the paths through the jungle, it will also show if the fault is heat related or blockage  related.

Then depending on how the legs feel, I may attack another section of sideshow Bob.

Then  paint the steering controls,  lightly sand the main hatch before the next coat of paint.

The other hatch needs sanding, repairing, before varnishing.

 

Time to get muggacoffee number 1.

[jamie92208]

Good moaning from a brightvand sunny place.   It isxalleged that it's going to stay that way for several days.

 

We had a lovely lunch yesterday at a friend's house. 7 of us in total, French and Brits but of varied origins. Convesations were going on in French, English and Italian with a smattering if Greek, German and Yorkshire.  Trying to explain the concept of  deep fried Mars Bar was beyond my French so eventually was duscussed in Italian until the French ldadybofvGerman and Italian parentage, sort of understood.  Thisxladted 5 hours. The food was good and when we got back home 3 fresh eggs had been presented to us by the residents of Cluckingham Palace.

 

Today we start off with an hourvof delight on the phone to young Emily and her Mums, then it is off to the market to make a few purchases, but more importantly have coffee and chat with friends.  The G word has been mentioned for the afternoon and we may even get into the pool.  

 

Chris, I hope that you enjoy your day out at Hatfield.

 

I forgotbone bin that we use.  Our local de hetterie (tip) has a special bin forboyster shells.  These are then washed, crushed and sold as grit for hens.

 

Regards to all.

 

Jamie