RMweb Gold Hroth Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 The problem with trams is that they have to run through streets clogged with pedestrians, horses and carts and "early" motor vehicles, plus detailed townscapes. Unless you go for a depot scene, rather like a BLT. Railways are straightfoward (even in P4 or similar) by comparison! 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 My next unit of unmentionables includes a tram, I was going to let it run on the main track, but decided to have a separate tram shuttle run automatically, it therefore requires less overhead wires and it will provide separate interest while I'm running other things. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, jjb1970 said: I have often wondered why trams aren't a more popular subject, lots of interesting vehicles and great layout potential. There are a few available RTR or in die-cast/plastic display with potential to be motorised. Kato make a very good track system as part of their Unitrack range though the tram track can be quite pricey. Some of the tramlines of the northern and Eastern Suburbs of Sydney have some great scenic potential, some parts were like a country branchline. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, monkeysarefun said: Some of the tramlines of the northern and Eastern Suburbs of Sydney have some great scenic potential, some parts were like a country branchline. I feel a @New Haven Neil Fraggle approaching..... 3 2 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 BH..... Do I go to the Co-op now - and risk stuff not being on the shelves cos' the delivery hasn't arrived yet, or later when Alexa says it's gonna rain? Decision, decisions...... At least the washing's on the go, so that's a diddy Tick Right, Templot..... BG 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post New Haven Neil Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, polybear said: I feel a @New Haven Neil Fraggle approaching..... Moi? Anyway, ours is an Electric Railway. There is confusion over the title though, it does change! Country branchline? 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 Or the hustle and bustle of Laxey Grand Central. Sort of....😆 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Tony_S Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, polybear said: later when Alexa says it's gonna rain? It is raining here. We aren’t going the Co-op anyway. Perhaps you could save time by asking Alexa to generate a track plan for you. 4 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, TheQ said: There are very few small estate cars anymore, estate cars seem to be based on Volvo sized things. Whereas years ago all sizes of all makes of car had an estate in their range. Agreed. Mrs B goes to a cake decorating group and has a huge toolbox on wheels that's bigger than any toolbox I have in the garage. Problem is that it's getting too heavy for her to lift in and out of the car (VW Polo) but we haven't found another small car with a low boot opening - they all seem to have the opening well above the bumper and as she's vertically challenged, lifting the box that high to then lower it into the back is getting too much. Last week I bought her this stackable system by DeWalt from Screwfix - at £79.99 it's a lot cheaper than changing the car. She can then take the separate boxes into the church hall one at a time or leave them in the car until needed. https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-tstak-3-in-1-rolling-workshop/507jy . 10 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, monkeysarefun said: Some of the tramlines of the northern and Eastern Suburbs of Sydney have some great scenic potential, some parts were like a country branchline. Looks like UK Metro tram systems ('tho prettier) that venture to the suburbs and outlying towns often along Beechinged former railway lines. Compared with yours, the modern Metro "trams" look more like trains. I suppose they called them trams so they could get permission to run along city streets.... 23 minutes ago, polybear said: BH..... Do I go to the Co-op now - and risk stuff not being on the shelves cos' the delivery hasn't arrived yet, or later when Alexa says it's gonna rain? Decision, decisions...... At least the washing's on the go, so that's a diddy Tick Right, Templot..... BG Pouring down here, rain beating on the window panes, looking very bleak.... Tomorrow is supposed to be Sunny, with a high of 5 deg C. If you believe the BBC Weather app, that is... Edited November 27, 2023 by Hroth missingspace.... 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tony_S said: It is raining here. We aren’t going the Co-op anyway. Perhaps you could save time by asking Alexa to generate a track plan for you. Could be fun to get one of those graphic AIs to generate some track plans! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Hroth said: By the sound of things it may as well be! I'll probably be doing in on my own! 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mike Bellamy said: Agreed. Mrs B goes to a cake decorating group and has a huge toolbox on wheels that's bigger than any toolbox I have in the garage. Problem is that it's getting too heavy for her to lift in and out of the car (VW Polo) but we haven't found another small car with a low boot opening - they all seem to have the opening well above the bumper and as she's vertically challenged, lifting the box that high to then lower it into the back is getting too much. Last week I bought her this stackable system by DeWalt from Screwfix - at £79.99 it's a lot cheaper than changing the car. She can then take the separate boxes into the church hall one at a time or leave them in the car until needed. https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-tstak-3-in-1-rolling-workshop/507jy . A lot of modern cars have a very deep drop down over the sill, even if they have a split level adjustable floor it can be quite deep with the floor at the high level. Some MPVs did it much better than cars, maybe because the design brief placed much more emphasis on being user friendly they often did have a sensible boot lip and a slide in/out floor. On adjustable floors,Golf claimed that, but there was no lower fixed floor meaning you couldn't use the adjustable divider to create a separate compartment like on some models. Which to me made it pointless really. The spare wheel and battery were below the floor piece. Edited November 27, 2023 by jjb1970 13 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monkeysarefun Posted November 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, New Haven Neil said: Or the hustle and bustle of Laxey Grand Central. Sort of....😆 Can I mention the old Fort Macquarie Sydney Tram depot for a decent bit of scenic modelling and operating potential? Fun fact, it was demolished to make way for the Opera House. Edited November 27, 2023 by monkeysarefun 16 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hroth said: Could be fun to get one of those graphic AIs to generate some track plans! This looks like something for @polybear to think about 1 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I have had estates for a long time, Escort, Astra, Focus, Vectra and now Insignia, all for (initially) towing the trailer for camping and then caravan. The latest insignia is the Sport model, an excuse for an estate, but adequate for my needs. It is noticeably lower in opening than even the Escort, but is long enough for what I need. If I wanted a big estate again (I don't) I'd probably have to think Volvo or Merc. None of the SUVs have the load capacity unless you want to maximise size and forego any sort of affordability of fuel consumption. With just me the Insigna can take stuff 10ft or so long as I collapse the front seat. Edited November 27, 2023 by Coombe Barton ****ing autocorrect! 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hroth said: Compared with yours, the modern Metro "trams" look more like trains. I suppose they called them trams so they could get permission to run along city streets.... These were the Sydney tram network that was torn down Beeching-style in the 1960's in order to replace them with buses. Modern trams are re-appearing in certain areas once more, most notably Circular Quay to the Eastern Suburbs. They too look like trams you see everywhere these days. 5 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Tony_S said: This looks like something for @polybear to think about All it needs is the Hornby Dublo man, with pipe and extra fingers! 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Coombe Barton said: None of the SUVs have the load capacity unless you want to maximise size and forego any sort of affordability of fuel consumption. I have load capacity, though fuel economy probably not so much. Just noticed, 4 vehicles in the picture, 3 are utes. Yay Australia! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted November 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, monkeysarefun said: I have load capacity, though fuel economy probably not so much. Just noticed, 4 vehicles in the picture, 3 are utes. Yay Australia! Looks out of the window. How do you keep your load dry? 🤪 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hroth said: Looks out of the window. How do you keep your load dry? 🤪 Dont live in a place where its raining all the time. (Checks forecast) Edited November 27, 2023 by monkeysarefun 7 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I might have mentioned..... ... revenge is a dish best served cold.... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, monkeysarefun said: Some of the tramlines of the northern and Eastern Suburbs of Sydney have some great scenic potential, some parts were like a country branchline. Some of the routes on the Glasgow Corporation system got pretty rural: https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/QpNuhoV8shbevifLK7x_8A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTQyMg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/glasgow_times_uk_271/a204743172000510b976d0b802d275c2 (Service 14 between Arden and Cross Stobbs in 1955.) Edited November 27, 2023 by pH 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iL Dottore Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Thanks to Polybear's "innovative" cuisine... ...once again Britain got "Nul Points" in the International Cuisine Olympics... 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hroth said: Looks out of the window. How do you keep your load dry? 🤪 Big umbrella and when I say big I mean really really big one. 1 1 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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