Early Risers.

[The White Rabbit]

34 minutes ago, iL Dottore said:

Good Morning Minions (and “others”) Captain Cynical here.

 

... As for CC’s “revelations”: how can you be sure it’s Captain Cynical who’s posting - it could be ChatGPT. Captain Cynical may be the pseudonym of a stage name or a regnal name. Or maybe Captain Cynical exists but iL Dottore doesn’t. Perhaps iL Dottore is an alias of @polybear - who uses it to cadge more than his allotted share of cake, or Captain Cynical is really @jamie92208 - who uses the moniker to “double dip”  for Cognac and Eccles Cakes....

 

Without an active camera linked to a keyboard, it could indeed be anyone - or anything - with access to the username and password. I know earlier this year when the doctors were trying to fix me and I didn't visit here for some weeks, I left the account open and (with my blessing) a friend did check the contents of PMs and looked at a couple of threads and let me know about posts. 

 

On another forum I'm a member of, a certain other member did create another account/profile as his wife. For comedic purposes only, not some sort of identity or lifestyle issue. The back and forth between 'their' posts was rather entertaining... 

 

Thought for the day: it's said we are all three people, who we think we are, who others think we are and who we really are. 

 

13 minutes ago, jjb1970 said:

I suspect I may end up more cynical even than Captain Cynical at this rate....

 

Major Cynical, perhaps? 

[jjb1970]

On cynicism, I am getting increasingly annoyed at the attitudes of many in the media and on social media towards the test of the government emergency alert system. OK, a lot of people didn't get the alert (though interestingly enough my Singaporean number did), well that's why you do a test - to find out if the system works and consider what you need to do if it doesn't work. In science and engineering it's what you do, and a test which doesn't go very well is not a failure as such, it's a learning opportunity, it's infinitely better to find out what doesn't work in a test than if you have to use a system in earnest. Do people think the best policy is to just have such systems and hope for the best if they're ever needed in anger so as to avoid embarrassment if tests identify things which need to be improved? I just put a friends nose out of joint by asking them the question - 'WTF do you think we do tests?' and pointing out if they were so expert then I'm sure they'd easily find gainful employment as the world always has a need for geniuses. 

 

I suspect that was a rant, sorry.

Edited April 27, 2023 by jjb1970

[polybear]

45 minutes ago, iL Dottore said:

As for CC’s “revelations”: how can you be sure it’s Captain Cynical who’s posting - it could be ChatGPT. Captain Cynical may be the pseudonym of a stage name or a regnal name. Or maybe Captain Cynical exists but iL Dottore doesn’t. Perhaps iL Dottore is an alias of @polybear - who uses it to cadge more than his allotted share of cake, or Captain Cynical is really @jamie92208 - who uses the moniker to “double dip”  for Cognac and Eccles Cakes.

 

Perhaps this post doesn’t actually exist OR is a modified facsimile of a real post?
 

CC out.

 

Dunno what you've been smokin' there CC (or is it iD?) but it sure as hell ain't doin' you much good.....

 

Bear here......

Ponder has been engaged, and now disengaged.  I'm now on Plan No. 57 - which is back to glass panels again....😮

The current scheme is to use five separate 200mm wide panels (that have nice rounded tops & bottoms 😁) with 92mm gaps between each one; the panels are secured top & bottom with nice shiny polished stainless steel clamps.  All I need now is for the seller/manufacturer to play ball and quote me for 845mm panels as they're normally 800mm.....

Bear gone.

[Erichill16]

2 hours ago, polybear said:

All I need now is for the seller/manufacturer to play ball and quote me for 845mm panels as they're normally 800mm.....

Bear gone.

Sounds very, very expensive.

I watched enough tv diy shows to know anything not ‘off the shelf’ is disproportionately expensive.

[Erichill16]

Despite sat in my van with Hovis whilst swmbo visits TK max we seem to be making progress today which makes a change.

X-ray done, passport application made, item given away of facebook site delivered and three items sold (well just about given away) on ebay.
Decided how to repay mate who helped out at work last week and wont accept cash payment. 
I have negotiated the funds for a small item that runs on parallel strips of metal but need to complete the deal before the tokens evaporate into the ether. 

[TheQ]

3 hours ago, Hroth said:

 

Speaking of bargepoles, or quants, each time I see a picture of Potter Heigham bridge, it seems even smaller. I hope it isn't sinking into the river bed...

 

Actually it's mostly the other way round, whilst there has been some settlement, the river is rising to meet the bridge.

The isostatic rebound of Scotland after the ice age, is tipping England down by about 0.6mm per year. In the 678 years since the bridge was built that's about a 400mm rise. Added to that the water level rise for the last 678 years is in the ball park of 200mm, so the water level has risen by about 600mm or 2ft. 

 

In the last 500 years the waters have been confined especially at its exit in Great Yarmouth, also as the land has been drained it's pumped in the rivers raising the river level still further.

[Compound2632]

43 minutes ago, TheQ said:

Actually it's mostly the other way round, whilst there has been some settlement, the river is rising to meet the bridge.

The isostatic rebound of Scotland after the ice age, is tipping England down by about 0.6mm per year. In the 678 years since the bridge was built that's about a 400mm rise. Added to that the water level rise for the last 678 years is in the ball park of 200mm, so the water level has risen by about 600mm or 2ft. 

 

In the last 500 years the waters have been confined especially at its exit in Great Yarmouth, also as the land has been drained it's pumped in the rivers raising the river level still further.

 

I'd be careful there. Your reply seems to assume that @Hroth has been looking at the bridge over a comparable period; I'd had him down as a sprightly young thing.

 

As to the isostatic rebound, if 0.6 mm/yr is the current rate, will it not have been faster in the past? 

 

I assume Potter Heigham is sufficiently far upstream to be as yet unaffected by global sea rise? 

[tigerburnie]

4 hours ago, polybear said:

 

Dunno what you've been smokin' there CC (or is it iD?) but it sure as hell ain't doin' you much good.....

 

Bear here......

Ponder has been engaged, and now disengaged.  I'm now on Plan No. 57 - which is back to glass panels again....😮

The current scheme is to use five separate 200mm wide panels (that have nice rounded tops & bottoms 😁) with 92mm gaps between each one; the panels are secured top & bottom with nice shiny polished stainless steel clamps.  All I need now is for the seller/manufacturer to play ball and quote me for 845mm panels as they're normally 800mm.....

Bear gone.

Here ya go...............................https://www.bespokeglassonline.co.uk

Edited April 27, 2023 by tigerburnie

[monkeysarefun]

5 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

On cynicism, I am getting increasingly annoyed at the attitudes of many in the media and on social media towards the test of the government emergency alert system. OK, a lot of people didn't get the alert (though interestingly enough my Singaporean number did), well that's why you do a test - to find out if the system works and consider what you need to do if it doesn't work. In science and engineering it's what you do,

Shades of Y2K!  Prior to the date the  media was full of stories of potential calamities, planes falling from skies and so on as the clock ticked over, and details on how much was being spent and how much time was being taken to avert it.

 

Come new years day 2000 and the world was still turning and we still had power and telly  and the  press and the letters pages are  now full of articles and complaints about how it was all a lot of over hyped nothing, like  a big damp squib or Halley's comet, all that money and time had obviously been spent for no reason. Well actually you d1ckheads, it was because all that time and money was spent that nothing happened, not despite it.

Personally I had 2 systems that would have fallen over if not patched, not major league stuff but still would have been disruptive.

It also gave the impetus to upgrade and rationalise a whole lot of legacy systems that had been well overdue for retirement but needed a decent  excuse to get management to pay for it, so that was a benefit too.

Edited April 27, 2023 by monkeysarefun

[TheQ]

45 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

I'd be careful there. Your reply seems to assume that @Hroth has been looking at the bridge over a comparable period; I'd had him down as a sprightly young thing.

 

As to the isostatic rebound, if 0.6 mm/yr is the current rate, will it not have been faster in the past? 

 

I assume Potter Heigham is sufficiently far upstream to be as yet unaffected by global sea rise? 

Err no, it may be 17 miles inland by river, but there is a substantial tide in both directions. Tidal change at the bridge is on average about 500mm but can be as much as a metre on extreme occasions.

The next high tide is about 18:45.

 

The above is part of the fun of the 3 Rivers Race, ideal timing means you get there about 1/2 hour before high tide, which gives you time to sail up to the buoy at the top of Hickling Broad with the tide, round the buoy and return with the tide going out.

 

This means for the majority of boats in this years race ( 3rd-4th June )the ideal time is. .... 01:30 on the Sunday morning. It's most awkward tides this year as direct sailing from the start get you there in 3 to 4 hours at about maximum tide against you..

Edited April 27, 2023 by TheQ

[Compound2632]

8 minutes ago, TheQ said:

Err no, it may be 17 miles inland by river, but there is a substantial tide in both directions. Tidal change at the bridge is on average about 500mm but can be as much as a metre on extreme occasions.

 

So yes, it will be affected by rising global sea level.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Compound2632

[TheQ]

9 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Sorry, not tidal variation but global rise in mean sea level.

If you get tidal variation then the rise in sea level affects the tide levels at the bridge.

As an example if we get Northerly winds for a time, the level of the southern north sea rises, 

If you get a low air pressure the north sea rises.

Add the above with spring tides and the broads floods. Including in and around the bridge.

 

Here's a video of minor floods at the bridge not quite enough to go into the fields.

https://youtu.be/Pu347MmBhlE

 

Edited April 27, 2023 by TheQ

[Compound2632]

10 minutes ago, TheQ said:

If you get tidal variation then the rise in sea level affects the tide levels at the bridge.

 

I meant, as a long term trend due to global warming. The whole area is at some risk, as far as I can see. 

[TheQ]

Yes. The water level at the bridge has risen by about 8 inches since it was built due to sea level rise, of which 6 inches is since 1900.

The map is of areas that could be affected. I'm on one of the new islands.

The current sea level rise today for the UK is 3mm a year. So every year there is an increased risk. At that rate the red of the  map below would be permanently flooded by 200 years.

[DaveF]

Thinking about rising sea level part of my town will end up underwater, parts of it can already flood at very high tides though most of the flooding so far is rainwater.  My house is about 40 feet above sea level so I should be OK - but I am less sure about the road I have to use to leave town, it is only a few feet above the sea.

 

After getting the Radio Times organised again this morning I left for church in plenty of time, just as I got to the "temporary" traffic lights they turned red, eventually they turned green and I got there with a few minutes to spare.  It would be nice to see someone actually working at the site, nothing seems to have happened for several weeks.  The church service itself went well, then we had our usual coffee with birthday cake as it is the churchwarden's birthday and discussed the snooker on TV and roadworks.  The roadworks blocking one of the only two north to south roads in the town will be there for some time.  Apparently a sewer leak has undermined the road and it is probably going to take all next month to sort out.  I'm always a bit surprised that with around 40,000 inhabitants there are not more traffic problems with only the three roads in and out of the place.  It's fortunate that there is no through traffic as you cannot go east as you would be in the sea or north as there is no bridge in the town over the estuary

 

On the way home I had another walk along the promenade, it is grey again with a cold wind, back at home I sorted out more photos.  Lunch was simply scrambled egg on toast as I need to lose weight - I've put on about 6lb since my colon was sorted out..  This afternoon has been a mix of modelmaking and gardening - I planted three lavenders in the front garden and then did more hand weeding.

 

As it is quite humid I am aching now so the evening will be sitting reading, listening to music and a bit of TV, while trying to remember to keep walking around every 15 minutes - it actually does help on the achy days.

 

David

[polybear]

3 hours ago, Erichill16 said:

Sounds very, very expensive.

I watched enough tv diy shows to know anything not ‘off the shelf’ is disproportionately expensive.

 

Plan 58 would be to use rectangular panels from the same supplier as these would be available off the shelf for a very reasonable price...but Bear likes the panels that are roundy top n' bottom better.

 

Actually the whole set-up with clamps would be about 1.5 Deltics, so not TOOOO bad....

 

 

 

[polybear]

Bear here......

 

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..........................

 

🤬🤬🤬🤬

 

And it ain't got now't to do with The Great H/S/L Refurb either......

 

Fuggin'Piggin'Rattin'Sh*tt1nStickyTurdycurses

 

Right, where's the cake..........

 

Bear gone.

[woodenhead]

14 minutes ago, DaveF said:

I'm always a bit surprised that with around 40,000 inhabitants there are not more traffic problems with only the three roads in and out of the place.  It's fortunate that there is no through traffic as you cannot go east as you would be in the sea or north as there is no bridge in the town over the estuary

 

 

The cul-de-sac as applied to a whole town - you only drive to it if you mean to, there is no passing traffic.

[PhilJ W]

27 minutes ago, DaveF said:

  I'm always a bit surprised that with around 40,000 inhabitants there are not more traffic problems with only the three roads in and out of the place.  It's fortunate that there is no through traffic as you cannot go east as you would be in the sea or north as there is no bridge in the town over the estuary.

 

12 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

The cul-de-sac as applied to a whole town - you only drive to it if you mean to, there is no passing traffic.

The same applied to Burnham-on-Crouch where I used to live. Only two routes out of the town, north and west. The other two directions and you would get very wet. 

[DaveF]

When I lived in Basildon I always enjoyed visiting Burnham on Crouch but sadly the prices were too high for me to buy a house there then.

 

David

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. Busy getting ready for the SEERS AGM tonight. I'm arranging a couple of trips for the members in the next couple of months. Now i better get on with it.

[PhilJ W]

29 minutes ago, DaveF said:

When I lived in Basildon I always enjoyed visiting Burnham on Crouch but sadly the prices were too high for me to buy a house there then.

 

David

I moved in there in 1982, before the line was electrified when property there was quite cheap. I only lived there for less than six years and due to the 'sparks effect' the value of the property trebled in that time.

[Ozexpatriate]

My cousin and her husband are on a cruise. The vessel is in the news:

 

CNN: Cruise passenger disappears overboard during trip from Australia to Hawaii

 

I believe this is a repositioning cruise from the summer season in the South Pacific to the North Pacific summer. The incident occurred on the leg from French Polynesia to Hawai'i.

 

I look forward to hearing from my cousin after her return home next week.

[Barry O]

1 hour ago, PhilJ W said:

 

The same applied to Burnham-on-Crouch where I used to live. Only two routes out of the town, north and west. The other two directions and you would get very wet. 

There is a big cul de sac.... called Barrow in furness. One road in.. one road out.. and if you go to walney Island it is also one road in.. the same road out.

 

Baz

[jamie92208]

54 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said:

My cousin and her husband are on a cruise. The vessel is in the news:

 

CNN: Cruise passenger disappears overboard during trip from Australia to Hawaii

 

I believe this is a repositioning cruise from the summer season in the South Pacific to the North Pacific summer. The incident occurred on the leg from French Polynesia to Hawai'i.

 

I look forward to hearing from my cousin after her return home next week.

We did one of those cruises in 2019.  Sydney to Vancouver. We both arrived Safely.

 

Jamie