Early Risers.

[monkeysarefun]

11 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said:

For what it is worth, I see there is a new top of page arrow:

Now located in the bottom right of the window. This one does not have a 'tool tip' if you hover over it.

HHmmm, thats not working for me. I just clicked on the arrow in the post you posted and all I get is a bigger arrow in the middle of my screen .  More work needed I think!

Edited January 18, 2023 by monkeysarefun

[PupCam]

52 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said:

For what it is worth, I see there is a new top of page arrow:

Now located in the bottom right of the window. This one does not have a 'tool tip' if you hover over it.

 

Just set my theme back to Gold and it seems to work for me (in Firefox) AND no mysterious invisible tentacles that reach across the page so at least that's an improvement!

 

UPDATE

 

But I can't see the items in the header bar (Bell, envelope etc) due to a very low contrast difference between the icons and the background.   

 

The Temporary theme seems to be working well ..... 😀

 

 

Edited January 18, 2023 by PupCam
But all in the garden is not rosy

[PupCam]

Whoopee!

 

We are sub 2 hours now!

 

[Gwiwer]

1 hour ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

And as this one was loaded even more likelihood of overbalancing .

Theoertically it should remain upright if tilted to 28 degrees with a full load upstairs and none downstairs. However newer types are not necessarily subject to a physical tilt test but to type modelling. The vehicle in question appears to be of an age which would have required an actual test 

 

https://app.croneri.co.uk/topics/psv-specification-and-fitness/indepth

 

The tilt test is however static. Different forces enter play when the vehicle is moving. Different forces again are involved if normal control is lost for example in a skid. 
 

A rotating vehicle (it ended up facing the way it had come) may also have clipped a kerb which could have prevented the wheels continuing around and arc but resulted in the forces of motion causing the vehicle as a whole to attempt continued rotation. Thereby destabilising it with the upper deck attempting to go where the wheels were prevented from going. 
 

We shall see. The accident report may not become public knowledge because it’s not a fatal event. But learning points may be addressed to the industry. 

[PhilJ W]

The top of page arrows work for me, in fact its better than before the latest trouble as it overlaid the multi-quote box and you ended up going to the top of the page before you could post a multi-quote.

Edited January 18, 2023 by PhilJ W

[Sidecar Racer]

14 minutes ago, Gwiwer said:

The tilt test is however static. Different forces enter play when the vehicle is moving. Different forces again are involved if normal control is lost for example in a skid. 
 

A rotating vehicle (it ended up facing the way it had come) may also have clipped a kerb which could have prevented the wheels continuing around and arc but resulted in the forces of motion causing the vehicle as a whole to attempt continued rotation. Thereby destabilising it with the upper deck attempting to go where the wheels were prevented from going. 
 

 

 

 The main picture in this report is very clear . The bus has come from the direction

that the police car is parked , and that's quite a high kerb .

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-64301329

 

[monkeysarefun]

33 minutes ago, PupCam said:

Whoopee!

 

We are sub 2 hours now!

 

ie: Just 1 hour 58 minutes til your disk space fills up!

Edited January 18, 2023 by monkeysarefun

[monkeysarefun]

 

 

 

Crazily dangerous - no one is wearing hi-viz!

[Dave Hunt]

No top of page arrow on my screen.

 

Dave

Edited January 18, 2023 by Dave Hunt

[Ian Abel]

1 hour ago, Ozexpatriate said:

For what it is worth, I see there is a new top of page arrow:

Now located in the bottom right of the window. This one does not have a 'tool tip' if you hover over it.

and if you check items to "quote" the "quote" tag covers the top of page arrow so you have to use the scroll bar to get back to the top of the next page if you're needing to move to the next page. Seems something is broken, it used to be that when you used the next page navigation or any selected page # you'd be automatically placed at the top. Now you're placed at the bottom of the page...

[Erichill16]

Evening All,

Hope all is well as I’ve not been feeling too good and have laid off the iPad.

Woke up thi morning feeling decidedly unbalanced, head in a right old state. After an hour or so thing settled a bit so took Syd and Hovis for a walk with Swmbo down to the cafe at the garden centre. Didn’t feel like anything solid so had a coffee and some ice cream. When we got home still off it, ,jogging my head about whilst walking doesn’t help, so went to bed for a couple of hours. Had tea and then back to bed.

Hopefully  the balance issue is due to sleeping  with my head in an awkward position or migraine and nothing more serious.

Dodged having ‘poorly nephew’ around but there is talk of taking mil out tomorrow. I think the migraine coming on again!

Goodnight

 

[polybear]

 

Bear here......

 

Colour scheme chosen and paint ordered; that's a complete Deltic that a certain Bear won't be seeing.  Turdycurses.

A call to Bear's tame Plasterer was rather successful though - he's arriving on Monday morning to plaster the boxed-in pipework in the hallway.  That's a Tick.

[PupCam]

31 minutes ago, monkeysarefun said:

ie: Just 1 hour 58 minutes til your disk space fills up!

 

Ah!  But I've just been on (another) cleaning spree and found another 0.5G.   Hopefully that will be enough 🤞

 

Stacking 157 out of 166 files.   54 minutes and 25s remaining ....  😬

[jamie92208]

2 hours ago, PupCam said:

Bu**er!    

I knew there was something else I meant to do!

That made me think of the immmortal lines from one of Blaster Bates' stories.

 

40 miles there, 40 miles back, sh1t myself and left the lens cap on.

 

Jamie

[PhilJ W]

1 hour ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 The main picture in this report is very clear . The bus has come from the direction

that the police car is parked , and that's quite a high kerb .

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-64301329

 

I see that the police marked out the course of the bus before it toppled.

Edited January 18, 2023 by PhilJ W

[BoD]

22 minutes ago, PupCam said:

 

Ah!  But I've just been on (another) cleaning spree and found another 0.5G.   Hopefully that will be enough 🤞

 

Stacking 157 out of 166 files.   54 minutes and 25s remaining ....  😬

 

Can I plead ignorance and ask what is happening in this stacking?  The only stacking I have come across is taking a handful of photographs at different focus points to increase depth of field.  Is that what you are doing here?   I understand that the distances involved are huge, as are the number of stars out there, but can a telescope make that number of fine adjustments of focus in a single frame? Remember, you are talking to an idiot whose frame of reference is a camera lens where everything over a  few tens of yards is infinity.

Edited January 18, 2023 by BoD

[PhilJ W]

Evening all from Estuary-Land. According to the forecasters it was going to be another cold night but the thingy at the bottom of my screen is showing +2 degrees Celsius??? It feels a bit warmer as well. Now back to Farcebook.

[andyram]

Evening all. The white stuff arrived this morning, but only a slight covering. The warmth from the winter sunshine melted enough away by mid-morning to make me feel happy to set out on the various errands which needed to be completed on my day off.  I have to admit to rather lacking in motivation after a sleepless night. A sore throat has developed into a head cold with blocked sinuses and persistent ringing in the ear. I have felt exhausted for much of the day. The test was negative however.

 

 

 

 

 

[BSW01]

Good evening everyone 

 

Sheila’s package arrived just after 12 midday, so once the item had been checked, we had an early dinner. After dinner we went to Tesco’s, oh the joy, although to be fair, we did get a couple of bottles of a rather nice wine we both particularly like and can no longer get locally, so alls not that bad. But I’m glad we don’t make a habit of shopping there. 

 

This evening we had our weekly chat with Vickie, who informed us that Ian has Man Flu! He doesn’t get much sympathy off Vickie as in her words, he’s a bit of a wuz! Although to be fair, he did have to be taken to hospital by ambulance on Monday evening, he was prided, poked and x-rayed etc and after 9 hours he was told officially that it IS just flu and he could go home. 

 

This evening I’ve not felt 100%, getting a real dose of the shivers, so much so that I had to put the fire on as I was so cold. Thankfully I’m feeling a lot better now. 

[BSW01]

Goodnight all 

[PupCam]

10 minutes ago, BoD said:

 

Can I plead ignorance and ask what is happening in this stacking?  The only stacking I have come across is taking a handful of photographs at different focus points to increase depth of field.  Is that what you are doing here?   I can understand that the distances involved are huge but does a telescope have that number of possible focus points in a single frame.  Remember, you are talking to an idiot whose frame of reference is a camera lens where everything over a    few tens of yards is infinity.

 

It's a sort of related technique but in this case it is not to get a huge depth of field by merging elements at different focus points.  Instead its essentially to eliminate noise from the image, hence improving the signal to noise ratio which enables fine details and subtle shades and colours to emerge.   All of the images are taken at infinity (of course) and are essentially the same.  As the elements within the image  are constant when the images are stacked those items add to each other.   As the background noise is almost random (gross simplification) it averages out to ideally nothing but in reality a very low level and essentially disappears so that for example the subtle shades and colours of nebulae appear out of the inky darkness.     The process that the stacking software performs is extremely complex because all  of the elements in each picture have to be aligned in the frame.   So the first part of the process is to work out where each element in the picture is in relation to all of the other pictures.   As the earth is moving, even though the telescope is crudely tracking the motion, there is a slight difference between each frame.   You'll notice there's offset data for the current frame in the dialogue window that I posted and for certain types of telescope mount the field also rotates to add to the complexity.

 

Fortunately the user just selects the images and presses the go button.     Unfortunately on this occasion I was unable to record the calibration frames that improves the process further because I ran out of space on the SD card and power in the camera but never mind!

 

I see it says stacking 166 of 166 with 5 minutes remaining now 😀

[PhilJ W]

Goodnight all.

[PupCam]

It worked! 😆

 

So, I took 272 images and selected (well, the software selected) the best 60% of them to stack.

 

Here is a typical image from that selection.   To give you an idea of the size of the field of view of the telescope, a dotted circle has been added to indicate the relative size of the moon.  

 

 

I've quickly (and roughly) processed the resultant stacked image to bring out all of the detail that has actually been extracted by the stacking process.   

If you look carefully you can make out the patterns that are just about visible in the single image.

 

 

Looking at just one of the source photographs or indeed looking through the telescope (remember it's essentially a low cost beginners job) you wouldn't believe there was so much to see in a light poluted back garden in Puppershire!

 

Fortunately I've lost my hat so I won't be able to eat it after all ....

 

And on that note, I bid you goodnight!

 

Alan

[Adam88]

1 hour ago, jamie92208 said:

That made me think of the immmortal lines from one of Blaster Bates' stories.

 

40 miles there, 40 miles back, sh1t myself and left the lens cap on.

 

Jamie

 

I seem to recall that that happened to Winston Link when they were making a documentary about him.  He'd got all his rare magnesium flashbulbs set up for one final shot and then ...

[monkeysarefun]

41 minutes ago, PupCam said:

It worked! 😆

 

So, I took 272 images and selected (well, the software selected) the best 60% of them to stack.

 

Here is a typical image from that selection.   To give you an idea of the size of the field of view of the telescope, a dotted circle has been added to indicate the relative size of the moon.  

 

 

I've quickly (and roughly) processed the resultant stacked image to bring out all of the detail that has actually been extracted by the stacking process.   

If you look carefully you can make out the patterns that are just about visible in the single image.

 

 

Looking at just one of the source photographs or indeed looking through the telescope (remember it's essentially a low cost beginners job) you wouldn't believe there was so much to see in a light poluted back garden in Puppershire!

 

Fortunately I've lost my hat so I won't be able to eat it after all ....

 

And on that note, I bid you goodnight!

 

Alan

 

 

Given that result , you should be able to get some decent Milky Way shots, without even using the telescope if its possible to bypass the telescopes  lens but  still utilise its tracking movement . A wide angle lens on the camera will get a decent swathe which gives a more impressive result than a zoomed in section (unless you are going for individual nebulae, galaxies, clusters etc.... ) .

 

July is the best time when Scorpio is visible since you are looking straight into the thickest part of the galaxy there, but  its worth giving it a burl now if possible anyway.

Edited January 19, 2023 by monkeysarefun