Early Risers.

[Tony_S]

1 hour ago, TheQ said:Char... English   Tea                                                              Hindi  Tea

Tea in Hindi is chai. Char is four as in charpoy for bed, “four footed”. Somehow the English turned chai wallah into charwallah and charlady. Chai for tea in the UK seems to have re-entered the language in various drink options available from retailers and cafes.

 

[PupCam]

Thanks Mike for your comments.  I wanted to press the Thanks button  but couldn’t find it on my flippin phone so I had to make do with a default Like.

 

UPDATE: Found it!

Edited May 24, 2021 by PupCam
If only I could delete this post now ..

[polybear]

28 minutes ago, PupCam said:

Anyway, long story short;  I’ve been fitted with a DCC Decoder, no sorry a Pacemaker last week.   There’s a bit of hitch so I’m still sitting here NBM waiting for them to have another crack at it.

 

I’ll be back when I can and best regards to all particularly the poorly ones.

 

Puppers

 

Rumours that Puppers is currently searching for the CV's controlling the start-up sounds for a Deltic are reportedly unfounded.... 

[TheQ]

28 minutes ago, Tony_S said:

Tea in Hindi is chai. Char is four as in charpoy for bed, “four footed”. Somehow the English turned chai wallah into charwallah and charlady. Chai for tea in the UK seems to have re-entered the language in various drink options available from retailers and cafes.

 

you's right I forgot when typing the Hindi word..

[simontaylor484]

4 hours ago, leopardml2341 said:

There's no wonder then, that natives of Oswadtwistle simply refer to it as 'Ozzy'...........

 

Somewhat less appealing is the locals' reference to Accrington - but surely to goodness they don't have a problem pronouncing that?

 

One of my 'favourites' was Oughtibridge, back on t' right side

What about Barugh Green now that gets everybody thats non Barnsley 

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. First lot of laundry done and second lot in washing machine. Still some more after that but thats not urgent and there's no more room indoors for drying it. Ambulance has been called to next door but one. His 92-year-old mother is staying with him for a while, hope she's OK.

[tigerburnie]

When I first arrived north of Hadrian's wall I was a service manager running a depot, had to send out 8 vans on jobs each day, much to the amusement of the locals who were fascinated with my attempts at pronouncing Gaelic place names, after much extracting of the urine, they got the drift when I mentioned that well known Russian place that ends in off.............................

Who knew Finzean is pronounced Fingun............................

[TheQ]

10 minutes ago, tigerburnie said:

When I first arrived north of Hadrian's wall I was a service manager running a depot, had to send out 8 vans on jobs each day, much to the amusement of the locals who were fascinated with my attempts at pronouncing Gaelic place names, after much extracting of the urine, they got the drift when I mentioned that well known Russian place that ends in off.............................

Who knew Finzean is pronounced Fingun............................

Like in Menzies the Z represents a old missing letter of the alphabet called "Yogh" that was actually written more like a number 3 and in the middle of the word gives a sound similar to NG

Edited May 24, 2021 by TheQ

[Gwiwer]

About to make afternoon tea here and became puzzled.  

 

The adverts atop the page are trying to sell me homes in Beccles.  Do they know something I should?  Is there about to be a very VERY high tide indeed drowning the Hill of Strawberries?   

[TheQ]

12 minutes ago, Gwiwer said:

About to make afternoon tea here and became puzzled.  

 

The adverts atop the page are trying to sell me homes in Beccles.  Do they know something I should?  Is there about to be a very VERY high tide indeed drowning the Hill of Strawberries?   

Beccles would be way underwater long before the hill of Strawberries, It's down barely above the waterline anyway, bits are often flooded.

 

 

I keep getting Dutch adverts, which suggests our server is accessing the net via our Dutch Branch. no wonder it's slow..

 

 

We had a huge hailstorm around 12:30, since then it's been almost continuous rain..

post card late 1950's

 

photo... recent..

Edited May 24, 2021 by TheQ

[jamie92208]

24 minutes ago, TheQ said:

Like in Menzies the Z represents a old missing letter of the alphabet called "Yogh" that was actually written more like a number 3 and in the middle of the word gives a sound similar to NG

Which is presumably why Menzies Campbell 8s called Ming.

 

Jamie

[The Lurker]

In a similar vein, one of the lost middle English letters (I think it was Thorn) gradually became indistinguishable from Y in typeface. It was pronounced "th", and was used in words such as "the" and "that". So the Ye in"Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe" and other pretend old-fashioned names should be pronounced "the".

[chrisf]

7 hours ago, Barry O said:

Shufti.. take a quick look.. came from our forces who were in the Middle East during various wars. My father also used "Imshi, Imshi".. work faster/harder from the Arabic "Imshallah" 

I always thought that "imshi" means "go away", or words to that effect.

 

Chris

[Pacific231G]

46 minutes ago, TheQ said:

Like in Menzies the Z represents a old missing letter of the alphabet called "Yogh" that was actually written more like a number 3 and in the middle of the word gives a sound similar to NG

Does that mean that Menzies should be pronounced Menngies with an elongated N sound ?

 

Its a bit like everyone thinking that in former times The was pronounced Ye - as in Ye olde tea shoppe. There was a letter "thorn" that actually sounded like th and looked a bit like this  . When printing arrived in Britain the printers got their type (or rather the matrices to cast type from ) from Germany or Italy where there was no such letter. They decided that thorn, as the scribes usually wrote it, looked like a Y so substituted that instead. They later substituted a th as we still do but such double letters representing a single sound, had not then yet been invented

This means that if you talk about ye old tea shop you're actually saying You old tea shop using the old plural form of "you" as in ye of little faith which is a real Y.

 

Update: Lurker got in two minutes before me but I hope a fuller explanation is useful. It seems that the letter Thorn was only lost because printers didn't have a character for it. Presumably that was also true of Yogh though why English and Scottish printer's didn't just carve them is not clear. For the original form of thorn they could have just adapted the matrix (mould) for a P.

 

Edited May 24, 2021 by Pacific231G

[Gwiwer]

1 hour ago, chrisf said:

I always thought that "imshi" means "go away", or words to that effect.

 

Chris

More commonly represented by a stiffly-displayed middle-finger these days.  Who needs print?   

[Tony_S]

Aditi doesn’t really know any rude words in Hindi, Punjabi or Urdu but we were watching a news programme some years ago about Indians attitude to caste queries. The interviewer after one response said he didn’t recognise the answer. Aditi said answer translated to “push off”. 

[The Lurker]

2 hours ago, Pacific231G said:

Does that mean that Menzies should be pronounced Menngies with an elongated N sound ?

 

Its a bit like everyone thinking that in former times The was pronounced Ye - as in Ye olde tea shoppe. There was a letter "thorn" that actually sounded like th and looked a bit like this  . When printing arrived in Britain the printers got their type (or rather the matrices to cast type from ) from Germany or Italy where there was no such letter. They decided that thorn, as the scribes usually wrote it, looked like a Y so substituted that instead. They later substituted a th as we still do but such double letters representing a single sound, had not then yet been invented

This means that if you talk about ye old tea shop you're actually saying You old tea shop using the old plural form of "you" as in ye of little faith which is a real Y.

 

Update: Lurker got in two minutes before me but I hope a fuller explanation is useful. It seems that the letter Thorn was only lost because printers didn't have a character for it. Presumably that was also true of Yogh though why English and Scottish printer's didn't just carve them is not clear. For the original form of thorn they could have just adapted the matrix (mould) for a P.

 

Yes, useful to me!

 

I have not quite avoided a rabbit hole called early middle english but have for now avoided the great vowel shift.....

[TheQ]

Dad went to AE with mum who'd fallen down the stairs.

Mum went home, Dad stayed in,

 

 

He had a heart attack in AE..

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. Back on my usual computer now, its a mystery what happened but I disconnected it from the mains supply and let the battery run down. As I expected it had shut down because of that so I re-connected to the supply and switched on. Earlier today I contacted the computer shop and they said it might be because of an update, quite possible as my back up computer wouldn't switch off due to it also doing updates, not surprising in that case as it hadn't been used in over a year. Managing to eat some solid food and feeling better.

1 minute ago, TheQ said:

Dad went to AE with mum who'd fallen down the stairs.

Mum went home, Dad stayed in,

 

 

He had a heart attack in AE..

Sorry to hear that Q. I hope your mum's OK.  

[Andrew P]

4 hours ago, PupCam said:

Sorry chaps Puppers has been AWOL for a while.   
 

It’s a long story but I’ll just provide a couple of highlights ....

 

The doctor was as good as his word and in my response of “I feel absolutely terrible” to his question of how did I feel he said you’d better get here for 11:30.   After a physical examination(now there’s a thing!) and seeing that I didn’t really have enough energy to get off the couch he said “I’m admitting you to hospital”.   And so Mrs Puppers took me to  A&E for admission.  It was very busy but Puppers found a cunning way to get to the head of the queue - collapse in a big heap close by people so they can catch you.    Much racing about and I was in Resus within 2 minutes (I should imagine I wasn’t really very aware at the time!).   Anyway, long story short;  I’ve been fitted with a DCC Decoder, no sorry a Pacemaker last week.   There’s a bit of hitch so I’m still sitting here NBM waiting for them to have another crack at it.

 

I’ll be back when I can and best regards to all particularly the poorly ones.

 

Puppers

WOW, Puppers, @PupCam, I'm really shocked and saddened to read this, I hope they get you kick started and re fuelled very soon.

 

All the very best

[Andrew P]

Hi Q, @The Q I hope both Mum and Dad will be O.K..

[BSW01]

Good evening everyone 

 

Well the weather has been kind today and we’ve had no rain, although it did try as I was driving back home from completing the shopping. In the end Sheila decided to stay at home, so I ended up going shopping on my own. As a result of this, I wasn’t out as long as I’d expected to be. Once I’d put away all the shopping, I earned a few brownie points by cleaning out the washing machine’s dispenser tray, where does all that black gunk come from? I then cleaned out both the dining room and living room fireplaces. 

 

After dinner I went out into the garden and did a bit more preparation for the camomile. I noticed the other day that a clump of foxgloves and some alchemilla mollis needed to be moved as they will be in the way. I also planted a couple shrubs, a camellia and a pieris japonica, which had been in pots for far too long. I’m now slowly getting a large collection of empty pots, most of which will be given to Vickie and Ian. There are a couple of broken ones, so they’ll go to the tip instead. I’ve also created a log pile for insects to over winter, mainly from some branches that I cut off the buddleia last year and I’d stored in a couple of old buckets. 

 

[BSW01]

Puppers, sorry to read of your predicament, hope things get back to normal soon. 

 

Q. I hope your dad recovers from his heart attack. 

Edited May 24, 2021 by BSW01

[Andrew P]

9am, and our Grandson turned up, despite the rain and said, I'm making a start on the Summerhouse, so I was compelled to help.

 

We expected it to arrive as

A Floor

4 sides

2 Roof sections

Windows and Doors.

 

Instead it arrives as;

Two Floor sections,

8 Side pieces,

6 Roof sections,

2 end Gable tops,

Windows and Doors.

 

I came in about 5pm and were almost done.

 

Tomorrow he has a Cement Mixer booked for laying the new Patio if the weather holds good.

 

Today wasn't as wet as we expected and took an early lunch during the biggest downpour.

 

 

 

[New Haven Neil]

3 hours ago, tigerburnie said:

 

Who knew Finzean is pronounced Fingun............................

 

 

try:-