RMweb Premium Popular Post New Haven Neil Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 Indeed Andy, Mrs NHN is red/green colourblind (although she can tell the difference, they're just not red and green to her, but shades of brown/improved engine 'green') but the pay-off is incredibly sharp vision, something to do with distribution of rods and cones on the retina. She can read the number on the front of a bus before I have seen the bus! I don't let her do wiring though. 11 5 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Some pre-pondlife is letting off fireworks! 1 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDMJ Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, roundhouse said: You wouldn't want to connect black wires to track on my layouts. That's 16 V ac. I use red and blue for track feeds / common since my first exhibition layout back in 1980. I recall the red-green-black of the old mains wiring which has now become brown-green/yellow-blue. I have always seen red as positive and black as negative (as, it seems, do a majority of electrical suppliers! Ever looked under the bonnet of your car?) and wire red-and-black-to-the-track with red on the right of the direction of travel on the principal line. It is interesting that DCC decoders use red and black from the track with orange and GREY to the motor! An NEM standard. For AC supply, I tend to use blue and yellow. Possibly, brown and blue could give rise to some confusion over voltages!? Anyway, I'll stick to my wiring standards. (sounds a bit like Rule 1, really!) Edited October 5, 2019 by JohnDMJ 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said: Indeed Andy, Mrs NHN is red/green colourblind (although she can tell the difference, they're just not red and green to her, but shades of brown/improved engine 'green') but the pay-off is incredibly sharp vision, something to do with distribution of rods and cones on the retina. She can read the number on the front of a bus before I have seen the bus! I don't let her do wiring though. I think red/green blindness is more common in men, but MrsID has a colour problem too. It took me a long time to convince her that UPS vans are actually brown rather than black 9 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, laurenceb said: Some pre-pondlife is letting off fireworks! Well it is the 5th. 1 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coombe Barton Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 Sandy on extra morhine because of the pain. Hopefully radiotherapy will be able to ease it. https://johncolby.wordpress.com/2019/10/05/sandys-treatment-day-291/ 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said: I recall the red-green-black of the old mains wiring which has now become brown-green/yellow-blue. I have always seen red as positive and black as negative (as, it seems, do a majority of electrical suppliers! Ever looked under the bonnet of your car?) and wire red-and-black-to-the-track with red on the right of the direction of travel on the principal line. It is interesting that DCC decoders use red and black from the track with orange and GREY to the motor! An NEM standard. For AC supply, I tend to use blue and yellow. Possibly, brown and blue could give rise to some confusion over voltages!? Anyway, I'll stick to my wiring standards. (sounds a bit like Rule 1, really!) Yep it was just what I standardised on many years ago. Some friends have continued with the same but some now use other colours. 12 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 51 minutes ago, laurenceb said: Some pre-pondlife is letting off fireworks! And I can hear them as well mate, Sh1t bags scaring the wife and Dog. 1 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 They need shooting! The morons not the dog & your boss! 1 6 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDMJ Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, roundhouse said: Yep it was just what I standardised on many years ago. Some friends have continued with the same but some now use other colours. For the last few layouts I've wired for others, I've even stapled a colour-coded wiring diagram to the underside of the baseboard. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2019 I just use whatever is in the wires box... As long as the end points are identified, what the colour cable cover is inbetween is (to me) not a concern. 9 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnDMJ Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Spent a good day at Fareham MRC's Railex, passing the time with PaulRhB and others. Discovered that a charter train was in the Bognor area so came back to see: with a rake of Pullman coaches named from the Lake District, including the only lake therein, Bassenthwaite. Edited October 5, 2019 by JohnDMJ 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDMJ Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stubby47 said: I just use whatever is in the wires box... As long as the end points are identified, what the colour cable cover is inbetween is (to me) not a concern. Agree and, having apprenticed in the aircraft industry, am aware that all wires are PTFE pink with ident tags at each end. Heck, we're talking layout baseboards; I can't be doing with cable ident tags so i'll use colours which also indicate their function! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said: Spent a good day at Fareham MRC's Railex, passing the time with PaulRhB and others. Discovered that a charter train was in the Bognor area so came back to see: Looks as if the loco could use a trip through the washer Brian. 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2019 Goodnight all! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, brianusa said: Looks as if the loco could use a trip through the washer Brian. Followed by a repaint in the original colour scheme 4 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Debs. Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, brianusa said: Looks as if the loco could use a trip through the washer Brian. A wash and "Brush" up? 3 1 3 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, brianusa said: Looks as if the loco could use a trip through the washer Brian. It's a terrible and very dreary colour scheme (I daren't call it a livery) in my opinion. But then maybe West Coast are happy to go unnoticed in view of their past record, or hope it will tone nicely with the rust? 2 6 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, AndyID said: Followed by a repaint in the original colour scheme Any colour as long as its not blue! Brian. 3 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post BSW01 Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 Good evening everyone I had a great day at the Wigan Model Railway Show, the journey there was uneventful, until I hit the traffic at the large roundabout at the junction of the A49 and A577. It’s a bl00dy awful junction, with multiple lanes, lots of traffic lights and numpties who just HAVE to get through them, but unfortunately to get to this particular venue, completely unavoidable. However, once inside I had a good wander round, looking at some great layouts and also spending a few model tokens, mainly on some tools etc, but also having chats with various exhibitors as well as a couple with Mick. Tomorrow, for a bit of a change, I’m going to spend the day in the workshop, where I plan to build the trio of bench organisers that I purchased today. Once there all done I will hopefully be able to keep all my tools etc stored away neatly (yeah right, who am I trying to kid?) in one place. Goodnight all 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2019 G'night all. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 04/10/2019 at 23:00, JohnDMJ said: I only use red and black for the track supply. Points have other distinct colours. And green for frog wiring. After all (most) frogs are green................. 2 1 13 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2019 Goodnight all. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Debs. said: A wash and "Brush" up? Sigh. 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, newbryford said: After all (most) frogs are green................. I'm getting deja vu all over again. 3 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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