Early Risers.

[TheQ]

Mooring again, 

And the heavy rain went away fairly quickly,  it is windy out there.  So when Ben the Border Collie decided it was time to get up, after me getting another hours sleep, no paddling was needed. 

 

We had our 3 Rivers Race  debriefing last night, mostly routine,  but one important  thing came out of our 999 incident,  where the husband did not secure the mast properly, it fell giving a glancing blow to his wife's face. 

 

Ambulance crews are not allowed even onto a moored boat without the presence of a lifeboat crew and the fire brigade.. So the ambulance crew have to call Humber Coast Guard, who call Hemsby lifeboat,  and the fire brigade,  only with their attendance  can they go on board.

 

So to prevent another hours delay, our own rescue boat crew and our  people at that site got the casualty ashore from the moored boat for the ambulance to take away. 

 

Luckily the two man crew of our rescue  boat included a GP, not needed for his work skills was the other crew... A pathologist,  nor a visitor to the guard ship... A Reverend.

 

Plans for today, 

Build some shelves on the outside of the tin shed for strawberry planters. 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2019 by TheQ

[Barry O]

Ey up!

Very wet here this morning. No cricket umpiring for me today. 

 

Have a great day!

Baz 

[jamie92208]

I can impart one pearl of wisdom, my name is not on the honours list.

 

Good morning all, and for the last time for a while I am in a village north of Ikea.  

 

Good news that Debs is getting out, may her recovery continue apace.

 

Yesterday was quite busy and I got to see Mel's widow and daughter in the afternoon. Not easy, but I was able to help by making some phone calls and sorting out Mel's police pension.  She was desperately worried about her finances, as Mel dealt with them.  With my knowledge of Police Pensions and some very helpful people at the end of the phone, I was able to put her mind at rest. She's still to get her state pension so will also qualify for bereavement allowance. It was good to be able to help.

 

A good meal followed and a bottle of Prosecco was disposed of.  All to make more space in the car.

 

We're setting off to Bournemouth about 10.00 and are lo,ing forward to a quiet and restful week.

 

Regards to all.

 

Jamie

[grandadbob]

Good morning all,

Raining again this morning.

All is not well here because my knee continues to give me grief. I have a horrible feeling that I've damaged something beside the joint as it's not been this bad for a long time.  Probably should have gone to the doctor when I first felt something "pop." 

Yet again nothing done shedwise, we'll see what today brings.

We do however have a chap coming this afternoon to give us a quote for a new bathroom. He comes highly recommended by one of our friends and I like what he did to theirs.

Garden works ie artificial grass etc are scheduled to start by the second week in July.  We're keeping things very simple with just the "grass" and a couple of slightly raised flowers beds either side. No fancy landscaping makeovers here, I want something that is easily managed.

The rain has now stopped.

Have a good one,

Bob.

 

 

P.S.  Jamie, that's really great that you were able to be around to help your friend's widow.

Edited June 8, 2019 by grandadbob

[lightengine]

4 hours ago, Tony_S said:

Morning all.

Yesterday was just supposed to be a trip up to Enfield for lunch with MiL and other relations. However it started with a visit to a local electrical goods retailer to buy a new freezer. I went while Aditi was getting ready. Anyway it is coming today (Saturday). It is taller than the old one so after returning from MiL’s we dismantled the shelf above the old freezer, pulled out the old freezer, cleaned the fluff and detritus, refitted the shelf in a higher position and then painted the exposed walls.  We finished just after 10pm. Work will resume soon transferring stuff to the refrigerator, it has a setting which can turn the whole fridge very cold. Then we just wait for delivery and removal of the old freezer. We have had it over 40 years so can’t complain about it starting to fail. 

Tony

Contact the manufacturers Tony and tell them that you think 40 years service is just not good enough.  See what they say.

[Kingzance]

1 hour ago, TheQ said:

Mooring again, 

And the heavy rain went away fairly quickly,  it is windy out there.  So when Ben the Border Collie decided it was time to get up, after me getting another hours sleep, no paddling was needed. 

 

We had our 3 Rivers Race  debriefing last night, mostly routine,  but one important  thing came out of our 999 incident,  where the husband did not secure the mast properly, it fell giving a glancing blow to his wife's face. 

 

Ambulance crews are not allowed even onto a moored boat without the presence of a lifeboat crew and the fire brigade.. So the ambulance crew have to call Humber Coast Guard, who call Hemsby lifeboat,  and the fire brigade,  only with their attendance  can they go on board.

 

So to prevent another hours delay, our own rescue boat crew and our  people at that site got the casualty ashore from the moored boat for the ambulance to take away. 

 

Luckily the two man crew of our rescue  boat included a GP, not needed for his work skills was the other crew... A pathologist,  nor a visitor to the guard ship... A Reverend.

 

Plans for today, 

Build some shelves on the outside of the tin shed for strawberry planters. 

 

 

 

 

Well, that is a good start to my normal placid countenance on a weekend morning!
Whilst I appreciate that, in all emergencies, avoiding additional casualties is very important, the tale you recount shows just how far we have travelled along the road to ElfinSaveTea ridicule. If someone is in danger and requires assistance, then surely, as fellow human beings, we have a duty to assist? The casualty in that incident could have been much more seriously injured but who would know if she couldn't be triaged? And as for the husband (who probably recognised he may have caused the incident in the first place), how would he have been feeling to see his wife's suffering whilst a group of personnel obviously in place for emergencies were not assisting due to red tape? Sadly, it would not surprise me that the whole event is cancelled because the sped of response in a potential incident cannot be deemed adequate - and all because of constrains imposed by desk jockeys. End of rant!

 

Grandchildren around before the sparrows had broken wind so KZ's (less than perfect) hearing has been assailed in addition to the ground-shaking and noise from CowboyBuildersRUs as they play at making mud pies with the results of the overnight rain. When will John Wayne lead in the Fifth Cavalry to save me?

 

Coffee, breakfast and then man-cave with noise reduction ear-plugs (I hope) to work on embankments, signalling and telegraphy although maybe some sport will be watched too. Have a good day!

 

I hope my knees hold up GDB but more likely to be failing hips in my case - Swinging Blue Jeans meets age-induced infirmity.

 

Edited June 8, 2019 by Kingzance

[bbishop]

On the other hand, Ambulance crews have no training on treating a patient on a boat.  The last thing we want is another casualty.  When I'm out with a crew or at Lord's, most of the briefing is about not becoming a casualty oneself.

 

Bill

[PhilJ W]

Morning all from Estuary-Land. Hope to see Debs back soon, awl included. She's going to be busy with said awl as most of us have sinned. Not a lot else, muggatee to be drunk, be back later.

[tigerburnie]

Morning, been pottering in the greenhouse, it's nice and warm in there and dry, exact opposite outside, so after a trip into Montrose some work may occur in the loft later.

[BSW01]

Good morning everyone 

 

Ive been up and about for well over 1 1/2 hours, removing bedroom net curtains, cleaning windows and window frames etc. I’m now sat in the kitchen with muggertea No2 and once that’s finished I’m off to the workshop for the rest of the day. 

 

The weather here here is a bit like Baz’s, wet and miserable, but when I’m in t(e workshop with the music turned up, I don’t really care!

 

Nice to see that Jamie could lend a hand during difficult circumstances and that Deb’s is up and about. I best keep my modelling activities quite for a bit. 

 

Back later. 

[Tony_S]

Morning again. 

The phone rang before nine am and the freezer delivery people said they had a cancellation so would we like the first delivery of the day. We did and they arrived soon after. The new freezer is in place and is standing. The delivery men recommended leaving it for a few hours, although the manual doesn’t mention it. All the food is still in the fridge or powered cool boxes. It seems fine. 

Tony

[TheQ]

Afternoon awl,  

Rain stopped play,  it's bucketing down,  and very windy.  There's only two bits of wood left to attach today,  one upright one shelf. Which I've already cut to size. 

A temporary eyelid inspection will. Ensue.. 

[Gwiwer]

Welcome to Latter-day Sunchtime.

 

The quack session yesterday did not go as planned.  We can book online meaning we don't have to wait for as long as it takes in a phone queue.  So I had booked online and received confirmation only to find, at check-in, that the surgery had my appointment scheduled for next Friday   .  Calmly protesting some sort of system embuggeration I was offered a call-back by the out-of-hours duty doctor after 5pm.  In fact I received a call from them five minutes after leaving the surgery saying that I could be seen at 5.10pm.  So a stroll home was followed by muggertee and a stroll back a little later.

 

I apparently have nothing more serious than congested lungs and am in receipt of another packet of Amoxycillin.  But no new inhaler as I was curtly told the brown, or steroidal, inhaler is only for those with asthma diagnosed and I don't have asthma.  However I do have a follow-up appointment booked for two weeks hence should matters not clear up as hoped and at that time I might be offered the brown one.

 

During the interval between surgery visits Neighbour (Upstairs), who had been offered a short-notice job interview locally, messaged.  She only applied on Monday, was offered the interview on Wednesday and joyfully told me yesterday after having been very uncertain about things that she was promptly offered the job on the spot.  As of September she is therefore a Year 1 teacher making full use of her yet-to-be-awarded degree.  After all the challenges thrown at her during a week in Morocco this is nothing less than she deserved with the added bonus of being able to walk to work and not needing to fund a house-move nor a car.  

 

SWMBO felt anxious and claustrophobic in the restaurant last night despite it being a light airy place and not at all busy for the first hour we were there.  I found her mother's friends tediously boring since they only spoke of Australian local politics.  They and SWMBO (plus her mother) have had long-term active interests there, indeed mother has in her time been a local councillor, mayor and stood for federal parliament, all of which means nothing to me.  The food was OK but not outstanding and after three hours and a numb behind I was relieved to finally be able to leave.  Today SWMBO is still asleep, typical of weekends this past year or so, while I am left to attend to all forms of Domestic Engineering.

 

Nothing much else is planned other than a trip to Waitrose.  I shall hold off on that for a while as it is a rugby day meaning most of Twickenham will be closed off and full of jersey-sporting flag-waving people.  Tomorrow sees the start of the annual Twickenham Festival with street food and the "Music and Fun Day" at Strawberry Hill House which is worth crossing the road for.

 

Best wishes to all.  Notably Her Debship who I see is out and about once more.

[Kingzance]

2 hours ago, bbishop said:

On the other hand, Ambulance crews have no training on treating a patient on a boat.  The last thing we want is another casualty.  When I'm out with a crew or at Lord's, most of the briefing is about not becoming a casualty oneself.

 

Bill

Perfectly understandable Bill and I did not wish to be derogatory to those who are the "boots on the ground". My point remains that, in such a scenario, to see professionals who could make a difference yet are discouraged from doing so by regulations is both distressing and could be life-threatening (golden hour etc.). My SiL relates how, on being one of teh first at a traffic accident and a qualified nurse practicing in A&E, she has been told rather rudely more than once that her services were not required and ambulance staff even refused to listen to her assessment. In terms of the incident to which I responded, surely we have all got into a boat at some time in our lives, recognising that the boat is not as stable as solid ground? I fear that we have moved somewhat beyond common sense today, caused in part by the threat of litigation. As a former motorsport trackside incident marshal, we knew that we should not place ourselves at additional risk, that we should not place our fellow team members at any extra risk and yet we were the people who could (and on a few occasions did) make a real difference to the outcome of an incident.

[lightengine]

Off on my penultimate trip to our Waitrose today to visit the almost empty shelves and maybe pick up a pack of something nobody else in Teignmouth wants. The meat and cheese counters were closed yesterday. I expect the fish counter to be closed today. In 6 months the store should be resurrected into Lidl.

 

 

[lightengine]

28 minutes ago, Kingzance said:

Perfectly understandable Bill and I did not wish to be derogatory to those who are the "boots on the ground". My point remains that, in such a scenario, to see professionals who could make a difference yet are discouraged from doing so by regulations is both distressing and could be life-threatening (golden hour etc.). My SiL relates how, on being one of teh first at a traffic accident and a qualified nurse practicing in A&E, she has been told rather rudely more than once that her services were not required and ambulance staff even refused to listen to her assessment. In terms of the incident to which I responded, surely we have all got into a boat at some time in our lives, recognising that the boat is not as stable as solid ground? I fear that we have moved somewhat beyond common sense today, caused in part by the threat of litigation. As a former motorsport trackside incident marshal, we knew that we should not place ourselves at additional risk, that we should not place our fellow team members at any extra risk and yet we were the people who could (and on a few occasions did) make a real difference to the outcome of an incident.

The situation is reminiscent of the frozen pond a few years ago when police were told not to attempt to rescue someone because it was dangerous.

I worked at a place where I was told by the manager that if the fire alarm sounded staff should not attempt to evacuate clients on the 2nd floor as they were behind 30 minute fire doors. I advised him that I would not be following his advice if the alarm sounded.

[lightengine]

On 06/06/2019 at 17:47, lightengine said:

Watched the laying of roses in a Normandy cemetery yesterday on the BBC DDay75 prog.  A young lad maybe 10 years old in combat clothing was helping the other volunteers.  Every time, he sidestepped to the next gravestone, stepped forwards and placed a rose against it, stepped back saluted and repeated the procedure. It looked like he had taken it on himself to salute.

 

[TheQ]

Afternoon again

After a suitable eyelid inspection, I awoke to find it reduced to a light drizzle flying horizontally.

So the last two planks were fitted, while SWMBO took Advantage of the reduced wetness to take Ben for his walk. 

I haven't mentioned that,  the first thing I did this morning was use pipe foam, cut to length and taped to various sticky out sharp bits of roof supports,  to prevent another GDB.  Also when I went in there the evidence of 12 coats of sheep in bin bags. SWMBO has sorted them, the majority will go to the weaving group on Tuesday. 

I've decided to extend the planter shelving further down the sides of the tin shed,  five more decking planks will be needed,  then some wood protector to the cut ends. 

 

It's my parents 62nd wedding anniversary today,  unfortunately being celebrated In hospital, due Dad having breathing difficulties. 

[Tony_S]

The freezer has turned on. The temperature gauge is flashing.  This is apparently correct while above OC. 

I watched the Ambulance series set in the West Midlands . Someone who had an accident on a canal towpath was transported by barge back to the ambulance. It would have been a long way for a lifeboat crew to attend I suppose. In the same series my paramedic cousin Andy was seen cutting the jacket off the photographer who had fallen down the embankment at the Severn Valley Railway. 

 

Tony

[Tony_S]

I noted some of the comments about WW2 conflict areas and that the earlier landings in Italy had been progressing for a while before Normandy. My Dad didn’t go to Italy as he had been wounded in North Africa and returned to the UK for surgery on his hand( which never actually took place). He was in the post Alamein campaign. They had set off from the UK and hadn’t really known where they were going. This campaign was with the US Army who were deploying tanks. Dad never mentioned it much except he did get cross about people who made negative comments about Italian soldiers. I read this morning (Wikipedia) about the difficulties dealing with the Vichy regime military in that part of the world then. 

 Tony

[Barry O]

The HSE are there to help people claim damages from people. They no longer give advice until after an event. Means we need more ambulance chasers. HSE should be preventing accidents not looking into them post event to point the finger of blame.

 

Once they told me a tank gun was dangerous ..that was it (in this case they said you could walk into it) and that a tank exhaust is hot so also dangerous I realised they had lost the plot.

 

Baz

[jamie92208]

3 hours ago, lightengine said:

The situation is reminiscent of the frozen pond a few years ago when police were told not to attempt to rescue someone because it was dangerous.

I worked at a place where I was told by the manager that if the fire alarm sounded staff should not attempt to evacuate clients on the 2nd floor as they were behind 30 minute fire doors. I advised him that I would not be following his advice if the alarm sounded.

There is no easy answer to such dilemas.  Some years ago an ambulance crew in Leicester ended up dead because they tried to help a shooting victim.  However there have been stories of people dying because such guidelines have stopped swift response.  I had to deal with an incident wher a 10 yr old girl had gone through ice in a lake. 2 would be rescuers, one of whom was a senior fire officer, died in attempting to save her. If I hadn't seen the signs of incipient hypothermia in some of the fire crew that were then involved we would have had far more casualties. All incidents are tricky and have to be treated on a case by case basis. 

 

Jamie

Edited June 8, 2019 by jamie92208

[Happy Hippo]

3 hours ago, Tony_S said:

Dad never mentioned it much except he did get cross about people who made negative comments about Italian soldiers. I read this morning (Wikipedia) about the difficulties dealing with the Vichy regime military in that part of the world then. 

 Tony

Likewise the Italian navy were considered a real threat by the RN.  My limited experience with the more modern Italian armed forces suggests they are both professional and highly motivated.

[45156]

Afternoon All

 

Rainy here all day - one thing you can be sure of is that the local gala here will be accompanied by rain - well not last year, but it certainly seems to rain on that day more often than not.

 

Good to hear about Debs and her progress.  Also good to have Rick back among us.  All posts have been read and rated, and the usual greetings are sent to the ailing and the celebrating.

 

FInally managed on Thursday to get the elusive bank print and checked it this morning.  Then a visit to Kirkby Lonsdale and on to a jumble sale where various items of stock were purchased for next week's A6 car boot sale, as the stuff is not sorted and priced.

 

Back tomorrow

Regards to All

Stewart

 

[Happy Hippo]

I went to the Midland Small Layout Showcase at Armitage (Staffs) this afternoon.

 

NHY 581 was sought out and teased about moving his skills up to 7 mm scale.

 

He was rescued from my gentle persuasion by Andy Peters, who dragged me into the other hall and showed me some very tasty second hand 7 mm offerings which I immediately coveted.

 

After much deliberation, I decided that arriving home with two large boxes might not be the wisest move, as the Obergrumpenfuhrer has a cold, and when she has one of these, has a fuse shorter than a gnat's nadger.

 

I therefore remain still covetous, but am of complete form.

 

It should be noted that the standard of driving in the Cannock area remains spectacularly abysmal.

 

The next outing will be on Tuesday to LLandrinio  for the Borders MRC daytime meeting.

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2019 by Happy Hippo