Ashcombe Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Back from the doctors. Pneumonia both lungs. Aditi is now off collecting impressive antibiotic cocktail for me. Doctor said Aditi is well on road to recovery. Tony You poor chap! Rest plenty and drink lots of fluids. Ian joins me in sending our very best wishes for your recovery. Edited June 26, 2017 by Ashcombe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) It's not the first warship to be built upstream of a low bridge. HMS Monarch, an Orion Class super dreadnought of circa 1912) had to have a telescopic section of tripod mast to get under the Tyne bridges. At one time, this was apparently standard operating procedure exiting the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Here's another view of CV-64 under the Brooklyn Bridge. The Brooklyn Bridge and the Brooklyn Navy Yard: Too Close for Comfort ... the Yard’s engineers decided to design hinges for the radar masts and communications antennae so that they could be folded down, thus lowering the ship’s overall height by more than 60 feet. This ingenious design was then passed along to Newport News Shipbuilding, which was constructing the lead ship of the Forrestal class, and was then employed on the Brooklyn-built carriers Saratoga, Independence, and Constellation. When the Independence sailed under the Brooklyn Bridge for the first time, Life magazine reported that there was only seven feet of clearance above the ship, and only five feet between the ship’s keel and the riverbed. Edited June 26, 2017 by Ozexpatriate 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AndyB Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 Tony, take it easy and get better soon. According to the tide tables it'll be late evening before they try to move the ship out under the bridges. Low tide is 22:28. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 After a day of typing decided to take it out on the remaining bit of lawn. However the mower decided to get VERY noisy, so before it shattered gave up. Then son spotted one on special on Amazon Prime. It'll be arriving very soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 Tony, take it easy and get better soon. I have very little choice about taking it easy! Getting socks on was an extreme activity in order to be taken to the doctors. I was a bit wobbly when we came out and Aditi told me to stay where I was, DON'T MOVE and she would fetch the car. Aditi is trying to stop her Mum coming to visit me. It wouldn't be a cheery visit, there seems to be sitting by the bedside looking grim protocol. Good news for Matthew, he has been awarded a grant to cover his PhD tuition fees for the whole of his 4 years at Maynooth. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 Most likely a capacity issue. Or more like a need to give all of the potential shipyards a slice of the action. Very much the latter but a lot of pork barrel politics (sorry to use the p word) were involved. One firm on Tyneside got the contract for some very specialised work on HMS QE and spent nearly £100,000 on new machinery to enable them to do it more quickly at the specified levels of accuracy. Contract was subsequently cancelled and transferred to a company in Scotland based near Rosyth. However the Tyneside company was fully compensated not only for the loss of the value of the contract but also for the new kit they had bought to enable them to do it - and people wonder why the cost soared? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 I have very little choice about taking it easy! Getting socks on was an extreme activity in order to be taken to the doctors. I was a bit wobbly when we came out and Aditi told me to stay where I was, DON'T MOVE and she would fetch the car. Aditi is trying to stop her Mum coming to visit me. It wouldn't be a cheery visit, there seems to be sitting by the bedside looking grim protocol. Good news for Matthew, he has been awarded a grant to cover his PhD tuition fees for the whole of his 4 years at Maynooth. Tony Take things very easily and get plenty of rest Tony - not a nice thing to have and rest will help a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 According to the tide tables it'll be late evening before they try to move the ship out under the bridges. Low tide is 22:28. I hope the channel is still deep at low water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 At one time, this was apparently standard operating procedure exiting the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Here's another view of CV-64 under the Brooklyn Bridge. The Brooklyn Bridge and the Brooklyn Navy Yard: Too Close for Comfort I seem to remember that there were similar problems on the Manchester Ship Canal in it's later years when the docks were still open in Manchester. Somewhere near Eastham there was a yard with a large crane alongside the canal and various bits of masts etc used to be removed there and then re fitted when the ship returned. There are photos of it around somewhere. All the various bits are stored vertically on the hard standing. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I have very little choice about taking it easy! Getting socks on was an extreme activity in order to be taken to the doctors. I was a bit wobbly when we came out and Aditi told me to stay where I was, DON'T MOVE and she would fetch the car. Aditi is trying to stop her Mum coming to visit me. It wouldn't be a cheery visit, there seems to be sitting by the bedside looking grim protocol. Good news for Matthew, he has been awarded a grant to cover his PhD tuition fees for the whole of his 4 years at Maynooth. Tony You look after yourself! No gallivanting or 'I'm probably OK'ing. Julie didn't and she's suffered the effects for years... That's good news about Matthew, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 They don't hand out finance for postgrads to anyone. Matthew must have loads of skills that are needed because they want him to do his PhD. Well done him. And get well soon, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 Ballast tanks - yes, all ships have them - and of course fuel bunkers can be used and moved around too, to help. It would be a calculation involving stability as well as draught and top hamper height for them to move that thing about. There are lots of videos on you tube of ships falling over on launches, due to failure in that regard! Very involved but I suppose a computer does it all - provided they have input the correct data of course. Ah. Congrats to Matthew and Jemma, high achievers both. I sort of just about achieve - mostly. Not highly....although I did get two distinctions in my finals 'some years ago'. Neither were in Naval Architecture. Forgotten all that now. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AndyB Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 I hope the channel is still deep at low water. Interestingly when various tram routes were mooted back in the '90s one was to go along the old railway route from Fareham down to Gosport and then dip under the entrance to Portsmouth Harbour and emerge in Pompey. One concern was that the large RN ships that were planned for the future would need deeper channels dredged, potentially excavating the tram tunnel. Of course the idea of using old train lines to resurrect local transport was one of the reasons these schemes were generally not viable as they failed to connect the things people actually wanted connected, e.g. residential areas with shops, residential areas with hospitals, residential areas with work places etc. I saw recently that a tram has been developed that simply follows white lines painted onto tarmac - no need for permanent way. One advantage of this (apart from the cost) is that as towns grow and morph you can redirect tramways far easier. I resisted the temptation to point out that you could also paint your own lines so that you could ensure the trams took you precisely where you wanted to go! I've now given into that temptation. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Aditi is trying to stop her Mum coming to visit me. Is the infection behind the pneumonia contagious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Most likely a capacity issue. Or more like a need to give all of the potential shipyards a slice of the action. The Esso Northumbrian was larger but the second point hits the nail on the head.... Edited June 26, 2017 by Barry O 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 Ah, the Esso Northumbria (no 'n' Baz) - I saw her sail from the Tyne as a youth, and I saw her on her last voyage going for scrap, by chance. Totally overawed by her size when I wuz young - I ended up serving on even larger ships ten years later! 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 anyone have any ideas on how Grandadbob is? Not like him to be quiet. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Was wondering that, last report was his granddaughters birthday party a fortnight ago. Hope nothing is wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 Is the infection behind the pneumonia contagious? Possibly but Aditi's cough didn't develop into pneumonia. We of course said we were concerned, but Aditi then just said don't come , we are really tired, don't ring me at 7 in the morning for a progress report either, I will ring you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium AndyB Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2017 GB: 81C might know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 I'm fine thanks. I've not bothered to post for a while because I got fed up with politics creeping in here. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 ..... Good news for Matthew, he has been awarded a grant to cover his PhD tuition fees for the whole of his 4 years at Maynooth. Grand. They'll make an Irishman out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted June 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2017 Grand. They'll make an Irishman out of him. They won't have to try very hard either. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) My day started off well with a site visit in Leek which finished earlier than expected. This was my view while working. A quick visit to the model shop in Tutbury where I parted with a number of modelling tokens which added two more locomotives to the fleet. Everything was going well until this point and then I got an urgent request to go to Gloucester. Not a great problem except that I was hoping to catch up with Andy P having missed him on Saturday. Mike's reference to the Black Pearl being referred to as still, reminds me of the Falklands. The locals were referred to as a character from Crossroads. An order duly came down that we weren't allowed to call them that any more so they were referred to as 'stills' from that point. Ian A - Great news for Jemma Tony - Please look after yourself properly. I hope that you recover quickly with the medication. Excellent news for Matthew. A relaxing evening before a jaunt to Kidderminster tomorrow. Back later Edit: Great to see GDB is still around Edited June 26, 2017 by emt_911 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 They won't have to try very hard either. On the other hand, if he emerges from the seminary in Maynooth, he may have found a different calling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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