RMweb Premium Gedward Posted June 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2 (edited) AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT At Exmoor Rail in Minehead yesterday, I announced the start of my next project. PONTE SAN ROCCO (SAN ROCCO BRIDGE) is a 'what if' cameo layout / diorama set in Venice. This all came about after a conversation I had at SWAG. When someone said BODMIN MOOR reminded them of a diorama at Warley in 2017. This was of course Peter Dillen's "IJsselstein. A simple 'canal scene' with a train crossing a bridge. Which was a brilliant example of 'forced perspective' modelling. I thought it would be cool to have a go at building something in the same vein. Then started a long search to find a prototype reference. Failing to find anything suitable in the UK, I started looking further afield and this led me to Venice. One of the things all layouts and dioramas have in common is trying to create a sense of theatre. With the fiddle yards acting as off-stage wings. Set designers in film and theatre are constantly employing different types of techniques to create a sense of depth. This can be an issue with any layout, especially as most layouts fall between 18" – 24" in depth, ie the reach of ones arm. The layout will be operated automatically, by a DC shuttle module. One of the advantages here, is that we can run any continental stock available, steam or diesel. The model is 20" x 16". The train will be concealed behind the buildings and the fiddle yards on each end, until it crosses the PONTE SAN ROCCO. Wish me luck. Edited August 2 by Gedward 11 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 If it's anything like your previous projects, George, you'll nail it! Jon T 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted June 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2 Model I saw at a show some time ago, based on a painting by Anton Pieck. “Waiting for the Bridge”: 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans.Albern Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) Also Peter Dillen's "IJsselstein" is a great layout based on a dutch oil paintings and making use of a forced perspective. More about Ijsselstein Hans Edited June 2 by Hans.Albern Added pics 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted June 2 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hans.Albern said: Also Peter Dillen's "IJsselstein" is a great layout based on a dutch oil paintings and making use of a forced perspective. @Hans.Albern just to be clear, Peter Dillen's great layout is what I was referring to in my OP. Edited June 2 by Gedward 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted June 13 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13 (edited) Many layouts employ the use of low relief buildings in the background. The difference here is, all the buildings will be modelled in low relief. Starting with the top left balcony. Still lots more to add, but quite pleased that we're making progress. Edited August 2 by Gedward 9 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted June 17 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17 (edited) Decided to start with the balconies as these are easily the most challenging part of the build. Having spent a fair amount of time planning and doing tests with various materials. Have just given balcony #1 a coat of primer. Still more details to add to this but about 90% there now. Edited June 18 by Gedward 5 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Hi George Are you making them out of foam board? Looking forward to this build as forced perspective intrigues me, its interesting and informative to follow your techniques of building on top of the 2 dimensional image 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted June 18 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18 6 hours ago, steve45 said: Hi George Are you making them out of foam board? Looking forward to this build as forced perspective intrigues me, its interesting and informative to follow your techniques of building on top of the 2 dimensional image Hi Steve, There are several types of 'foam board'. This is 10mm XPS foam, which is often used for installing underfloor heating. Styrene strips for the smaller details. Next a coat of spackle to iron out the foam texture. This layer can also be carved to create surface damage and decay in places. I've been fascinated by forced perspective since seeing the mini dioramas in the museums in London. But apart from landscape painting, this is the first time tackling one in 3D. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted June 18 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18 (edited) 8 hours ago, steve45 said: building on top of the 2 dimensional image The plan is to treat this image as if it were embossed. Like the sides of a coin or the well known relief of the late Queen Elizabeth II on definitive stamps, sculpted by Arnold Machin. Edited June 18 by Gedward 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted July 10 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10 More progress on the balconies. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 On 17/06/2024 at 22:57, steve45 said: Hi George Are you making them out of foam board? Looking forward to this build as forced perspective intrigues me, its interesting and informative to follow your techniques of building on top of the 2 dimensional image That's what drew my attention as well, all of my paintings use forced perspective in some way. To see it in 3d is going to be very interesting. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted August 3 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 8 hours ago, MrWolf said: That's what drew my attention as well, all of my paintings use forced perspective in some way. To see it in 3d is going to be very interesting. Absolutely, 'Trompe-l'œil' and 'Forced Perspective' are fascinating and as I mentioned earlier, an ingenious method to seemingly add depth to your painting or model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted September 8 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8 (edited) Quick update on this cameo layout. Have started work on the first L/H building wall. Using 10mm XPS foam for the base. Have applied a layer of spackle to give the wall a plaster rendered effect. This also eliminates much of the unwanted texture in the stock foam. Next stage is scribing the brick courses which should be fun. The front of the layout will be a wall of 6mm birch ply. 1600 x 1000mm (sliced into sections that fit in the car). Which will act as the proscenium arch and hide the fiddle yards. Really pleased with the gilt frame I had made for this. Will eventually be attached to a fine ramin frame underneath, using neodymium magnets. BTW, the base of the window apertures look strange because the balconies aren't in place yet. Looking forward to modelling the Twist Rope column in the corner. I've tried out a few ideas, but have decided to carve it out of 12mm dowel. Edited September 10 by Gedward 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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