bluestag Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) I've made good headway on my LNWR Precedent. I'm running out of things to do. One item that troubles me is the counter weights for the wheels. Anyone got a good method of making them? Edited June 23 by bluestag Makes sense 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassey Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Balance weights usually come with the kit as an etched part. In 4mm, I find it easier to fit them first and paint the wheels before assembly cos it's not best practice to remove the wheels once on. I attach them with epoxy. If I had to make them I would probably use plasticard. Stick down a drawing of said loco and cut them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) I use one of those Olfa compass cutters, which are quite cheap to buy, though a double pointed compass from the old school compass set would also do it. Draw an arc to match the outer dimension, then a second arc for the inner, and you have your balance weight. Edit - Thin plasticard of course. Edited May 21 by Barclay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 You've done a good job on that kit. As Brassey says, etched brass kits usually come with the things that look like toe-nail clippings, but if not they're easy enough to fabricate from 5mm plasticard. They'll be hardly visible by the time they're painted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 Well, the kit did not come with balance weights that I saw. I have tried an Olfa cutter and 5thou black plasticard. I tried to cut them out with the cutter, and all it did was dig in. Perhaps I need to just mark them and cut them out with other tools. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted May 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, bluestag said: Well, the kit did not come with balance weights that I saw. I have tried an Olfa cutter and 5thou black plasticard. I tried to cut them out with the cutter, and all it did was dig in. Perhaps I need to just mark them and cut them out with other tools. For balance weights - 10 thou. plastic card, a brand new Olfa blade, and VERY light cuts. Repeat the cuts several times, then snap out the shape by bending. Works for me. CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 SUCCESS!!! The trick was MANY light cuts. Using my Olfa compass cutter. I have the left side wheels cut and glued, and will let the epoxy cure overnight before I move to the right. Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Plastikard. Cut very slightly oversize with scissors and sand to fit using the drum attachment on the dremel. Turn over and fill in the rear with car body filler and sand to shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 Just for grins, I'm nearly finished. 11 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted May 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28 Nice work but the cast tender water scoop cover looks too tall. On the 2500g version it was 12" high, so I expect the same for the 1800/2000g tenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 6 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Nice work but the cast tender water scoop cover looks too tall. On the 2500g version it was 12" high, so I expect the same for the 1800/2000g tenders. Huh. You COULD be right. This kit is a Modeler's World. The line was bought by Mercian, which closed when the proprietor died. It is now in hands that are in no hurry to reintroduce the line. The other major supplier of LNWR in 7mm is Gladiator, which sells, wait for it, some Modeller's World kits. Plus he has several newer offerings. The tenders from Mercian and Modeller's World are radically different designs from the Gladiator kits, which are much better. But. Many of the castings are the same. I would swear it. The filler on another 1800 gal tender is identical to this one, and both are about 10.5, or 18". Strange. I don't propose to do much about it at this point. Possibly I'll trim the next ones I build. I'll check Talbot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 On 28/05/2024 at 13:32, Jol Wilkinson said: Nice work but the cast tender water scoop cover looks too tall. On the 2500g version it was 12" high, so I expect the same for the 1800/2000g tenders. Jol, I think you are wrong. I consulted Talbot, the appendix on tenders has a GA of an 1800 gal tender, in 7mm, and the filler scales 18" tall. Making the casting right enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 My, you all seem to like this loco. I have essentially finished the tender. It just needs a lamp socket on the coal rails top center rear. It got a scrub today as well. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted May 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30 10 hours ago, bluestag said: Jol, I think you are wrong. I consulted Talbot, the appendix on tenders has a GA of an 1800 gal tender, in 7mm, and the filler scales 18" tall. Making the casting right enough. Interesting. The 4mm 1800g and 2000g tenders I have built have a lower scoop cover (etched) which is why I thought the casting looked to high. When I designed a 4mm 2500g tender I had access to a GA which showed the scoop cover/filler as 12" high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 9 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said: Interesting. The 4mm 1800g and 2000g tenders I have built have a lower scoop cover (etched) which is why I thought the casting looked to high. When I designed a 4mm 2500g tender I had access to a GA which showed the scoop cover/filler as 12" high. Interesting indeed. I have only the GA in Talbot as a solid reference, but I'd say most photos that are of a useful angle seem to bear me out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 If you all are interested, the tender is complete. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 Got some primer on it. Top coat tomorrow. Then mask the smokebox, and spray with gloss clear coat. Then, over the next year, lining. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted June 19 Author Share Posted June 19 It's black now. The flaw on the right side is glaring. The second photo is an attempt to correct it. More work tomorrow. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 Looking better. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Buhar Posted June 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22 Very nice work. I think we're a bit beyond the balance weights issue. Time for you to change the thread title. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestag Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 (edited) 23 hours ago, Buhar said: Very nice work. I think we're a bit beyond the balance weights issue. Time for you to change the thread title. Alan How? Edited June 23 by bluestag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted June 24 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24 12 hours ago, bluestag said: How? If you edit the first post in the thread, you can edit the thread title. CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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