jTrackin Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Has anyone have or use the Lodi automation. Hard to find a negative review etc, interested in someone just sharing what think of this train automation. https://youtu.be/ME6aVvxQ2g0?si=1JeXKeOaiIWSTnc6 Edited May 12 by jTrackin adding pic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) It is extremely robust and suites automation perfectly as Andreas has worked extensively with the program authors, especially iTrain, to ensure it meets the requirements and needs. at the recent Dortmund Fair, iTrain and Lodi shared a stand with each other - I think that says it all. Edited May 12 by WIMorrison Spelling correction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrackin Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 That is the key to have a product that is dependant on another and they working together. It is seems to me an incredible that this appeals to me as a not a real tech need and I can't find any negative feedback from people who are tech nerds. This system makes the hobby fun. Along with iTrains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted May 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15 It's a system I am looking to with interest. I've also found this YouTube channel to be very good at a real world implementation - https://www.youtube.com/@hillmanhalt My only reservation is that I would like to connect to LocoNet and Xpressnet devices I already have. I'm therefore between either this (if it's possible) or the Z21 system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Amazing, an iTrain user who has literally just started using it posting videos on how to use it already! I notice that he is using sectionalised track and didn’t put dropper to every bit of track, nor did he solder the rail joiners - problems coming almost in the future 😞 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15 2 hours ago, E100 said: My only reservation is that I would like to connect to LocoNet and Xpressnet devices I already have. I'm therefore between either this (if it's possible) or the Z21 system. When you say Expressnet, what do you mean? Handheld Lenz controllers? Or something else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrackin Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 On 16/05/2024 at 00:43, E100 said: My only reservation is that I would like to connect to LocoNet and Xpressnet devices I already have. I have NCE SB5 ut I will just sell that and start fresh with LODI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 What are the XpressNet and LocoNet devices? Are they throttles, accessory decoders, feedback decoders, or something else? just using the bus name leaves it open as hundreds of devices Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrackin Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 I seem to keep coming up against negative comments on z21 systems but don't seem find any from LODI is that because one is old and Lodi is newer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ITG Posted May 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19 7 hours ago, jTrackin said: I seem to keep coming up against negative comments on z21 systems but don't seem find any from LODI is that because one is old and Lodi is newer? Really. I don’t recall seeing anything particularly negative about Z21, apart from some users were reluctant to let go of a previous version of the app. It seems to me there are so many different DCC systems, that there’ll never be one that everyone agrees as being either the best or the worst. When choosing a DCC system, much depends on whether the user wants a push-button approach or screen based. Ian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 8 hours ago, jTrackin said: I seem to keep coming up against negative comments on z21 systems but don't seem find any from LODI is that because one is old and Lodi is newer? Not sure where you see negativity against z/Z21 system as it universally seen as a solid and robust system. In fact you see very few comments because it simply - works. You will find people who don’t understand the difference between a z21 and a Z21 then buy the wrong unit, but that isn’t the fault of the z/Z21. You also need to separate comments about the app (which needs to be purchased for non z/Z21 systems using it) from the actual command station command station comments before considering whether it is good or bad 😉 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 8 hours ago, jTrackin said: I seem to keep coming up against negative comments on z21 systems but don't seem find any from LODI is that because one is old and Lodi is newer? More likely that on UK/English forums, LODI is almost unheard of. Probably more on German speaking forums if you frequent those. How many users are there on RMWeb who post about using LODI ? Almost zero. How many retailers carrying LODI gear in the UK ? Is it just one ? How many RMWeb users posting about Z21 ? Lots - and that includes those who are using the Z21 software Apps to control hardware other than that supplied by Roco. How many retailers carrying Roco gear ? Dozens, including "box shifters". So, likely more threads seen. Age of development has little to do with it, other than time for a larger installed base to be established. 17 minutes ago, WIMorrison said: You will find people who don’t understand the difference between a z21 and a Z21 then buy the wrong unit, but that isn’t the fault of the z/Z21. Though I would throw some blame at Roco for their naming of the two systems - that naming of Z21/z21 leads to confusion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted May 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19 37 minutes ago, Nigelcliffe said: Though I would throw some blame at Roco for their naming of the two systems - that naming of Z21/z21 leads to confusion. Especially once autocorrect capitalises the small z as you type it 🙄 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19 39 minutes ago, franciswilliamwebb said: Especially once autocorrect capitalises the small z as you type it 🙄 Doesn't when I type it. z21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted May 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19 35 minutes ago, melmerby said: Doesn't when I type it. z21 Mayhap you're not the only person on the internet😉 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, franciswilliamwebb said: Mayhap you're not the only person on the internet😉 Perhaps because I don't have autocorrect/predictive text enabled. All my spelling mistakes are my own.☺️ 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, melmerby said: All my spelling mistakes are my own.☺️ Disslexya rools KO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrackin Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 OK well if there is not many using it in the UK ...I could be the first to use it in Australia. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrackin Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 (edited) Also I was wanting to try out the MP10 motors then I found there was a another sort DP10 for DCC. Has anyone try them before. Edited May 19 by jTrackin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RvSwol Posted May 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19 After three years of intensive use, I can say that the Lodi system is very robust and it offers a wide range of possibilities. I have a Gauge 0 layout which is controlled by Windigipet 2021PE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jTrackin Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 @RvSwol Like to know about your layout and Lodi system. You seem to have a lot of units. Do you find it reasonably priced? Do you use iTrains with it.? Regards James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25 6 hours ago, jTrackin said: Do you use iTrains with it.? On 19/05/2024 at 18:01, RvSwol said: I have a Gauge 0 layout which is controlled by Windigipet 2021PE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RvSwol Posted May 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25 In response to these questions, Yes I own the professional edition of iTrain. The question why windigipet anyway. The answer is, iTrain a block oriented system and Windigipet NOT. Whereas in iTrain I am obliged to stop a train ( locomotive ) in a block, and turnouts are always between two blocks and a turnout can never be a block. In Windigipet, I can stop any train (locomotive) on a turnout, provided the turnout has a feedback indicator. On a scale 0, some turnout's are 58 cm long and a ) gauge Pannier can easily stop on it, to turn around. This gives a much more realistic view of a shunting movement. There are many more things that are different from iTrain. I think iTain is a very good product , but not for me , considering I run a real station and shunting yard based on a driving times table . Will put it this way where iTrain ends begins Windigipet. 😉 I also like the fact that Windigipet comes with a Dongel . So it is marketable, therefore no needs for a server check, to see if a copy is running somewhere. Very good in windigipet is the simulation mode than can simultaneously run xxx trains, to discover bottlenecks in the serving scheme. But practice is always different from theory. The costs are in line with the other available systems , only the boosters are more expensive 😠 than the other manufacturers. Oh yes everything is 100% made at Lodi in Germany , so no made in China . some screen from Windigipet and Lodi FX Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RvSwol Posted May 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25 Shunting with windigipet is great . So precise and always on spot . In this example, windigipet measures and controls the class 33's driving behaviour. Listen to how windigipet makes the locomotive roll out over the points and how it stops on the buffers of the MK1 passenger wagon. https://youtu.be/ZQTnaXR6dvY Later I made a refinement so that the diesel stops 5 cm in front of the wagon and after 3 seconds the diesel is pressed against the buffers at crawling speed. Would like to mention that Windigipet recently has an English manual that you can download at https://www.windigipet.de/foren/index.php?topic=87484.0 kind regards Rupert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 38 minutes ago, RvSwol said: I also like the fact that Windigipet comes with a Dongel . So it is marketable, therefore no needs for a server check, to see if a copy is running somewhere. methinks you are confusing yourself with another product that is German and not iTrain 😉 iTrain doesn’t ’phone home’ to check if it is running elsewhere - and it doesn’t need a dongle. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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