RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29 Some of these terms are often used as a simple way to see if people know their subject. This isn't unique to shipping, every industry, profession, trade etc has its own argot which insiders often use to separate insiders from outsiders as well as the more commendable usage of easing communication in specialised fields. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 6 hours ago, Ozexpatriate said: The SS Lake Illawarra was a bulk carrier - described on the linked page as "handysized" whatever that means. I would assume it's similar to describing the Deutschland and Graf Spee as "pocket" battleships? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29 12 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I would assume it's similar to describing the Deutschland and Graf Spee as "pocket" battleships? "Small but still quite nasty"! 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: "Small but still quite nasty"! Like Dali ... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29 Deb's parents - and Deb was presumably there but rather young - had once dined at the next table to him in a Cadaques restaurant, where Dali lived. 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 29 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29 10 hours ago, Jeff Smith said: The US Army Corps of Engineers are starting to look at clearing a channel enough to get ships in and out..... two weeks has been suggested..... Indeed, Baltimore is a major port, it can't take months or years. Building a replacement bridge will though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 6 hours ago, kevinlms said: Indeed, Baltimore is a major port, it can't take months or years. Building a replacement bridge will though. I assume they'll tow the ship back to harbour after fitting buoyancy aids if necessary. They can probably shift the wreckage of the bridge with explosives. The yanks are good at making things go bang. Not really a job for a Bailey bridge though. 😁 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 37 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: They can probably shift the wreckage of the bridge with explosives. The yanks are good at making things go bang. Nar, they'll use a fleet of small boats and hire them out to magnet anglers... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29 The largest floating crane on the Eastern Seaboard is on it's way to remove the bridge remains. Once that has been done the search for casualties will resume, which is currently suspended due to the hazardous conditions for divers amongst all the twisted steel. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyPenguin Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: The yanks are good at making things go bang. But often the wrong thing ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: They can probably shift the wreckage of the bridge with explosives. I don't think so, that wouldn't go down well with the families of the missing. They'll cut it into as few pieces as possible within the capacities of the cranes. Some divers are going to earn a lot of money cutting underwater.... 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted March 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29 34 minutes ago, GrumpyPenguin said: But often the wrong thing ! I heard that a high ranking air force officer was once asked about the accuracy of there bombing capability , he is supposed to have replied that it was 100% and every bomb was guaranteed to hit the ground . 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Sidecar Racer said: every bomb was guaranteed to hit the ground . Unless it hit another allied aircraft underneath............. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30 The crane has arrived: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68693499 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted March 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30 10 hours ago, melmerby said: Unless it hit another allied aircraft underneath............. The US has a long history of friendly fire. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 50 minutes ago, melmerby said: The crane has arrived: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68693499 Typical poor journalism from the BBC. The photo doesnt show the "big crane" thats being sent. They even mention is name Chesapeake 1000, surely its not difficult to look and see what it looks like. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 30 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, Night Train said: Typical poor journalism from the BBC. The photo doesnt show the "big crane" thats being sent. They even mention is name Chesapeake 1000, surely its not difficult to look and see what it looks like. It has an interesting history. Not sure that I would want to pay the daily rate (whatever it is), for a specialist ship of this nature. I suspect it doesn't do a lot of work, but essential. https://www.enr.com/articles/41701-floating-crane-on-job-in-nycs-east-river-has-a-storied-past-of-cold-war-intrigue 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 30 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Hroth said: The US has a long history of friendly fire. The 2nd Amendment has a lot to answer for! Shoot first and ask questions of the survivors! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, Night Train said: Typical poor journalism from the BBC. Typical critism of the Beeb They will have got the info (probably) from CBS, I wouldn't expect the Beeb to know any different. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The second amendment is open to interpretation and nobody knows the real original intention. Different US States passed versions with different punctuation which could be argued alters the meaning. Stand Your Ground laws in some States are designed to allow individuals to use deadly force if they feel threatened..... this usually involves guns...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 31 minutes ago, melmerby said: Typical critism of the Beeb They will have got the info (probably) from CBS, I wouldn't expect the Beeb to know any different. Isnt it the responsibility of a journalist, or national news company to check what they print is factually correct? If CBS told them King Charles was gay, would they print that too? Or would they try and ascertain the validity of that statement? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted March 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30 6 minutes ago, Night Train said: Isnt it the responsibility of a journalist, or national news company to check what they print is factually correct? If CBS told them King Charles was gay, would they print that too? Or would they try and ascertain the validity of that statement? Seriously? The truth never gets in the way of a good story. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Night Train said: If CBS told them King Charles was gay, would they print that too? Or would they try and ascertain the validity of that statement? What tosh The Beeb wouldn't use CBS for a UK story They, like other news broadcasters, have to rely on other sources for much of the material they use and it is normally done on trust. Maybe the Beeb should send their own correspondent, at great cost, to cover the story directly? Mistakes are fairly common in the news industry. Have you listened to any UK commercial radio stations recently? The news bulletins on there are pretty dire. Edited March 30 by melmerby 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 30 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30 16 minutes ago, Night Train said: Isnt it the responsibility of a journalist, or national news company to check what they print is factually correct? If CBS told them King Charles was gay, would they print that too? Or would they try and ascertain the validity of that statement? Perhaps you've never heard of the Daily Mail? Or any of a number of British media. I wouldn't trust the date of many of them - they have 6 months worth of 1st April! 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 8 minutes ago, melmerby said: Maybe the Beeb should send their own correspondent, at great cost, to cover the story directly? Well, I heard British accents asking questions at the various news conferences on-site. The BBC has a team of correspondents in the US - watch BBC News for America on the BBC news channel, late at night for UK viewers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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