Locomotion No. 3 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) Railway Icons' OO Gauge Class 41 Prototype HSDT Power Car Locomotive No.41001 now available to pre-order with sound! Both DCC Ready and Sound Fitted versions are available to order from the Locomotion Models website, and can be secured with a deposit today - https://locomotionmodels.com/railway-icons/prototype-high-speed-diesel-train-power-car-no-41001 If you have already pre-ordered this model with us, you should have received an email earlier today regarding upgrading your DCC Ready model to a Sound Fitted version. The model is currently set to arrive in stock Summer 2024 You can also watch Hornby Magazine's video about the HS(D)T here. Edited February 23 by Locomotion No. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Are these models 'as currently preserved', or is that the version from Rails? Or have I got my wires crossed and neither releases are in current condition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted February 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26 3 hours ago, G-BOAF said: Are these models 'as currently preserved', or is that the version from Rails? Or have I got my wires crossed and neither releases are in current condition? It is an identical SKU between Rails and Locomotion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 26/02/2024 at 11:42, G-BOAF said: Are these models 'as currently preserved', or is that the version from Rails? Or have I got my wires crossed and neither releases are in current condition? I think you'll find the model is in 1970's condition (both Rails and Locomotion models are exactly the same, I believe). The model's overhead warning symbols are a red lightning strike on a white background and 252001 is on the front. In preservation, it has the modern black and yellow version of the overhead warning symbols, presumably to conform to modern safety standards, especially if it ventures out and about. As far as I can remember seeing the real thing in preservation, it also lacks the 252001 number on the front, even after a search online for more recent images. I hope they also do 41002, though can't help but feel after this release there will be a twin pack of both and possibly a second pack with the departmental yellow wraparound ends to further enhance sales. It would be superb if the Mk3s were also commissioned, and perhaps the substituting Mk1 used in the early days, to make up typical sets (aside from any compromises), which I am sure would enhance sales at least a bit. That said, I am sure it will also sell well even as a one off, especially by visitors to the NRM as an iconic replica of a historically significant power car to take home. Looking forward to this one... I have already got the N-gauge set! Cheers, Ixion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted March 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4 Shame that Rails difn’t do 41002 and the NRM 41001. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Angus Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 37 minutes ago, ColinK said: Shame that Rails difn’t do 41002 and the NRM 41001. Are there any significant differences between the two that would stop them doing so? Roddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium pete_mcfarlane Posted March 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4 Aren't the grilles slightly different between the two? In a way that 10 years ago wouldn't have mattered to a RTR manufacturer.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted July 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17 Here's a question. If they commissioned some Mk3's from Hornby and whilst not fully correct for the prototypes but if they were in the right livery would you buy them? I had this discussion with Locomotion at MRS this year and said if they felt enough asked they would consider it. I'd obviously much prefer them to be tooled properly though realistically our best chance would be Accurascale doing the Mk3's as part of a HST model range unless Bachmann fancy taking on the HST mantle (and to supplement their class 90/47 etc with the loco hauled ones). I do fear the cost though would be steep! So realistically would Accurascale do coaches that only another limited run manufactured model would want - granted they did go on to be in other uses but often with more modifications? I'd wager only as part of a direct Railways Icon's commission and they'd be well within their rights for them to be a fair bit dearer than the standard MK3 stock even in a pack as they surely wouldn't sell a huge amount compared to other SKU's - perhaps even pre-order only would be the only viable way to ensure there isn't a load stuck on a shelf. I'd go for them even if they were a bit dearer but I realise that wouldn't be for everyone at all. Therefore for me, if they commissioned a run of Hornby mk3's and they were correctly decorated at least I'd certainly bite, especially if they sold them as a couple of packs to reduce the cost a little. Is that a commonly held view or would others only bite if they were bespoke tooled? Regarding 41002 does have some differences though I'd be shocked if Bachmann hadn't put a slide in the tooling just in case. 41001 41002 - notice the grills for a start 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Answering as just one person; I wouldn’t be interested in reliveried standard Mk. IIIs. I would rather run the prototype power car with standard blue-grey coaches, which, I believe, happened in reality. On the other hand, I’d be very interested in accurate prototype coaches and the other power car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted July 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19 I would be happy with reliveried Mk3s, although I could repaint them myself. But first I would need both power cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydgaled Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 17/07/2024 at 19:12, E100 said: If they commissioned a run of Hornby mk3's and they were correctly decorated at least I'd certainly bite, especially if they sold them as a couple of packs to reduce the cost a little. Is that a commonly held view or would others only bite if they were bespoke tooled? Regarding 41002 does have some differences though I'd be shocked if Bachmann hadn't put a slide in the tooling just in case. Hornby only recently retooled their mark 3s and have so far only done a few releases with the new tooling (FGW Fag Packet, 'Staycation Express' green and Midland Pullman I think). These include some variations that weren't possible with the old tools so do we know whether Hornby have some more tooling slides in the new mark 3 tooling that haven't yet been used? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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