Peterborough North

[davidw]

45 minutes ago, great northern said:

As promised, the formation of the 1008 Glasgow.

 

Do you know how many different coach consists you're able to build Gilbert?

[great northern]

More of the Glasgow, as the A3 begins to gather speed for the climb to Stoke.

 

 

 

Next come some experiments looking through Spital Bridge. Not very successful in my view, but you don't know till you try, and some may disagree with me.

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Another cracking shot, Gilbert. I'm not sure about the interlocking on that double-slip though... It doesn't seem to be set to protect the up main, unless maybe something is due out of the sidings.

I've just realised that I have a very tenuous link to P'boro, as someone in my class at grammar school went on to become the MP for that city.

[great northern]

13 hours ago, davidw said:

Do you know how many different coach consists you're able to build Gilbert?

A very quick count of the Saturday sequence, taking in just the main line expresses and stoppers, plus the E.Lincs expresses, gives a total of 118. Of those,14 are fixed formations in the fiddle yard and two cassettes. All the rest are put together from a lot of cassettes and loose stock. I can replicate almost everything from the CWN, though occasionally there are substititions, just like the real thing! 

 

There are limits, of course. Very recently, I made up the 1130 Edinburgh, which needs a lot of end vestibule seconds. Having moved it to Platform 6, I then found that the next Up train also needed seven of them. I don't have that many in loose stock or cassettes, and if I did, they would stand idle most of the time, so MK1s were substituted. The same can occur with brakes, so a three compartment car may have to run instead of a four. The whole thing isn't far off though. Its all a case of combining the desirable with the practical.

[great northern]

1 hour ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Another cracking shot, Gilbert. I'm not sure about the interlocking on that double-slip though... It doesn't seem to be set to protect the up main, unless maybe something is due out of the sidings.

I've just realised that I have a very tenuous link to P'boro, as someone in my class at grammar school went on to become the MP for that city.

My most often recurring mistake. I never seem to remember to reset the slip after I have moved stock in or out of the carriage sidings. Perhaps I should put a prompt on the Powerpoint, though that feels too much like hard work.

[davidw]

7 hours ago, great northern said:

A very quick count of the Saturday sequence, taking in just the main line expresses and stoppers, plus the E.Lincs expresses, gives a total of 118. Of those,14 are fixed formations in the fiddle yard and two cassettes. All the rest are put together from a lot of cassettes and loose stock. I can replicate almost everything from the CWN, though occasionally there are substititions, just like the real thing! 

 

There are limits, of course. Very recently, I made up the 1130 Edinburgh, which needs a lot of end vestibule seconds. Having moved it to Platform 6, I then found that the next Up train also needed seven of them. I don't have that many in loose stock or cassettes, and if I did, they would stand idle most of the time, so MK1s were substituted. The same can occur with brakes, so a three compartment car may have to run instead of a four. The whole thing isn't far off though. Its all a case of combining the desirable with the practical.

It's been a massive and inspirational task that you've accomplished. Any chance of a video recording similar to what We see of Little Bytham?

[great northern]

1 hour ago, davidw said:

It's been a massive and inspirational task that you've accomplished. Any chance of a video recording similar to what We see of Little Bytham?

Sorry, I tried that ages ago, and found that I'm no good at it.

[great northern]

Two more attempts at angles around and under Spital Bridge.

 

[great northern]

The 7.50 Up Newcastle has changed engines at Grantham, and now has that shed's A3 Persimmon in charge.

I can't make my mind up as to whether the end of the bridge is too obtrusive, and spoils an otherwise nice view, so I did a more conventional one as well.

That 01 has been waiting for ages, but I really haven't been able to find a path across to the yards , such is the stream of traffic on the main in both directions. Even when there was a pause in the expresses on the Up, there was an M&GN service coming in. How long would it have taken to get a load of probably 60 or more wagons across both main lines and out of the way, I wonder?

[great northern]

Today's very good news.... maroon Thompsons. I can use a few of those.

 

We have the A3 captured from the other side of Crescent Bridge.

 

and shortly afterwards from the opposite direction comes Golden Fleece with the 1018 KX-Leeds.

[davidw]

25 minutes ago, great northern said:

Today's very good news.... maroon Thompsons. I can use a few of those.

 

We have the A3 captured from the other side of Crescent Bridge.

 

and shortly afterwards from the opposite direction comes Golden Fleece with the 1018 KX-Leeds.

Maroon Thompsons at last!

[great northern]

Golden Fleece si just pulling away after its five minute stop. You may have gathered that this is becoming one of my favourite views.

It is though a pig to photoshop. Seven minutes later fish empties from KX Goods to New Clee are on their way with one of New England's more presentable B1s.

 

[great northern]

Running a little late, another Grimsby-KX now pulls in for a five minute wait.

Time for another view under the roof.

 

[great northern]

B1 at rest.

Soon to be joined by another V2. On official loan to KX, March's 60803 heads the 1028 to Scarborough.

 

[great northern]

B1 and V2 now meet.

 

and after a six minute stop, 60803 goes on its way.

 

[great northern]

Just a couple more shots of a well remembered V2. 60803 was March's favourite choice for the Newcastle-Colchester train, through Lincoln Central about 4.45pm. That was followed by the Liverpool-Harwich boat train, with a B17, so a few of us caught the school bus down the hill to the station, saw both , and then caught the ordinary bus back to be home for tea. it would be the same engines for weeks on end, but small boys are eternal optimists, and always hoped for something different.

 

[great northern]

Next in, only 18 minutes after that Grimsby-KX, is a Cleethorpes express. Seems a bit strange to have two coming down the E.Lincs in such quick succession. Anyway, that's what the timetable says, and here it is.

 

This second shot I tried in monochrome, and it comes out looking very much like the weather we had here today.

 

[DaveF]

35 minutes ago, great northern said:

 

This second shot I tried in monochrome, and it comes out looking very much like the weather we had here today.

 

 

I looked at the second photo before I read the caption and thought "that looks as though the rain is just starting".  It is very good indeed, real atmosphere.

 

David

[great northern]

While 61190 waits, Mons Meg arrives with the 1040 KX-Newcastle.

another angle on the same thing.

 

[great northern]

61190 still waiting for the off.

Mons Meg is also waiting, but with 13 on is well off the end of Platform 3.

 

[great northern]

An engine failure, genuine this time, results in 3F haulage for this Leicester local. The rostered 2P suffered a tyre problem.

Then the 8.10 Up Newcastle brings one of our rare Heaton visitors

[jazzer]

On 05/11/2022 at 09:13, great northern said:

Just a couple more shots of a well remembered V2. 60803 was March's favourite choice for the Newcastle-Colchester train, through Lincoln Central about 4.45pm. That was followed by the Liverpool-Harwich boat train, with a B17, so a few of us caught the school bus down the hill to the station, saw both , and then caught the ordinary bus back to be home for tea. it would be the same engines for weeks on end, but small boys are eternal optimists, and always hoped for something different.

 

Hi Gilbert . Do you have any more information on the route of that train ? As far as I can tell it would have come off the ECML at Doncaster, gone across to Lincoln then down through the Eastern Counties to Ipswich then back down the Great Eastern Mainline To Colchester. My information is based on a 1960 time table so possibly it might have been re- routed at some point but I can’t see why a train bound for  Colchester would go from Lincoln to PN the double back on itself to the Eastern Counties and Colchester. Can you enlighten us ?

[jazzer]

Have I misread your comments ?

[great northern]

2 minutes ago, jazzer said:

Hi Gilbert . Do you have any more information on the route of that train ? As far as I can tell it would have come off the ECML at Doncaster, gone across to Lincoln then down through the Eastern Counties to Ipswich then back down the Great Eastern Mainline To Colchester. My information is based on a 1960 time table so possibly it might have been re- routed at some point but I can’t see why a train bound for  Colchester would go from Lincoln to PN the double back on itself to the Eastern Counties and Colchester. Can you enlighten us ?

Yes indeed. The Newcastle-Colchester didn't come through Peterborough. I was just explaining why I had the desire to run a loco I well remember from my youth on PN, and the weekend loans from March to KX, which are well documented, gives me that excuse.

[great northern]

3 minutes ago, jazzer said:

Have I misread your comments ?

I think so, as my reply confirms.