Ex-GWR Dean Goods decals

[Longhaireddavid]

Hi everyone. 

 

I wanted a Dean Goods on my little ex-GWR BR shunting layout but the only one I could get was a WD version.  I found Railtec could do the transfers/decals (as you wish) for me but, now they are here, I need a little help.

 

They asked some questions:

- Which running number you would like;
- Whether the 3d cabside plates have a black or red background;
- Whether the running number should be lined or unlined;
- Which shed code; ***
- What power classification and on what colour background (if any) ***
- What size crest (small is approx 3mm high, medium 5mm high, large 9mm high)
- Whether the crests should both be left-facing as standard?

 

The questions with *** are the problems. Now I have the transfers I don't know where these go on the model. Here is a photo of the sheet. Obviously, I know where the BR logo goes (this is actually a spare that they provide.  The three may not be quite the correct for this loco but I had to guess a bit when ordering but - hey ho - never mind - I know little about the GWR/BR so I am happy just to have something. Can I just add that the 3D decal of the number on the cab side was brilliant. They print these up especially for you so the service is wonderful.

 

There are three, actually that I can't place. Can anyone tell me where they go?

Edited January 31 by Longhaireddavid

[Paul H Vigor]

Re Dean Goods axle load decals: was it uncoloured or blue??

 

Shed plate on smokebox door.

Edited January 31 by Paul H Vigor
to add information

[Longhaireddavid]

and the shed plate is the 83D one?

[Longhaireddavid]

41 minutes ago, Paul H Vigor said:

Re Dean Goods axle load decals: was it uncoloured or blue??

 

Shed plate on smokebox door.

I had a look around and concluded that it was red if we are talking about the C plate. Where does it go? I think that it goes below the number on the cab side.

Edited January 31 by Longhaireddavid

[Longhaireddavid]

OK  so that's two of them sorted. Where does the last one go?

[John Isherwood]

16 minutes ago, Longhaireddavid said:

I had a look around and concluded that it was red if we are talking about the C plate. Where does it go? I think that it goes below the number on the cab side.

 

The red C is incorrect for a Dean Goods - they were classified 'Uncoloured'.

 

CJI.

[Harlequin]

Dean Goods: Uncoloured for route availability, Power class A (not Ungrouped as previously stated). So no need for that decal at all. (But red would never have been right.) See Jason's post below.

 

The cast iron "Caution" notice goes inside the cab, either on the left hand side sheet or the left side of the roof, but you may not consider it worth doing. Similar to this:

 

Edited January 31 by Harlequin

[Paul H Vigor]

44 minutes ago, Longhaireddavid said:

and the shed plate is the 83D one?

Yes. 83D Laira

[Steamport Southport]

1 hour ago, Harlequin said:

Dean Goods: Uncoloured for route availability, Ungrouped for power class. So no need for that decal at all. (But red would never have been right.)

 

The cast iron "Caution" notice goes inside the cab, either on the left hand side sheet or the left side of the roof, but you may not consider it worth doing. Similar to this:

 

 

Power Class A

 

There should have been a white A painted on the cab in a white disc but very few engines got it. Mostly 16XX and 2021 Pannier Tanks.

 

As here on 2112.

 

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/GWRSteam-1/18641897-GWR-Wolverhampton-Geo/George-Armstrong-2021-SaddlePannier-Tank-class/i-f2BdM78/A

 

Jason

Edited January 31 by Steamport Southport

[Ian Rathbone]

48 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Power Class A

 

There should have been a white A painted on the cab in a white disc but very few engines got it. Mostly 16XX and 2021 Pannier Tanks.

 

As here on 2112.

 

https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/GWRSteam-1/18641897-GWR-Wolverhampton-Geo/George-Armstrong-2021-SaddlePannier-Tank-class/i-f2BdM78/A

 

Jason

You mean a white circle, not a disc. Sometimes the circle was omitted. 
 

Ian R

[Harlequin]

50 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Power Class A

 

Jason

 

Yes, quite right. I will amend my post.

 

Thanks.

[Steamport Southport]

6 minutes ago, Ian Rathbone said:

You mean a white circle, not a disc. Sometimes the circle was omitted. 
 

Ian R

 

Yes. I had the word "disc" in my head.

 

 

Jason

[DCB]

I have serious doubts about Plymouth 83D having a Dean Goods in BR Days.    For many years Exeter's 2251 was the furthest west allocation of an 0-6-0 Tender loco, basically for ballast workings but it spent time on Exeter  Paignton locals.