The Broc Branch in Om scale - an ambitious project that stalled for a decade but is now reawakening

[ruggedpeak]

Fantastic to see the layout continue to develop.

 

With regard to the Range Rover, the original Range Rover Classic was very popular in Switzerland for obvious reasons.

 

I believe the colour of the vehicle in the picture is 'Sandglow', variously known as Austin Sandglow and later Land Rover Sandglow. The Land Rover reference for the colour ir LR 361. It is the same colour as used on such legendary vehicles as the Austin Allegro and Princess. More importantly it was the colour of all the Camel Trophy Land Rover vehicles.

[Mol_PMB]

8 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said:

Fantastic to see the layout continue to develop.

 

With regard to the Range Rover, the original Range Rover Classic was very popular in Switzerland for obvious reasons.

 

I believe the colour of the vehicle in the picture is 'Sandglow', variously known as Austin Sandglow and later Land Rover Sandglow. The Land Rover reference for the colour ir LR 361. It is the same colour as used on such legendary vehicles as the Austin Allegro and Princess. More importantly it was the colour of all the Camel Trophy Land Rover vehicles.

That's brilliant, many thanks. It will be very helpful in Halfords (if indeed they do still sell this sort of thing). Otherwise I'll have to mix something up from yellows and browns.

 

[ruggedpeak]

1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said:

That's brilliant, many thanks. It will be very helpful in Halfords (if indeed they do still sell this sort of thing). Otherwise I'll have to mix something up from yellows and browns.

 

They certainly used to as that's where I got a rattle can for a 1:48 Camel Trophy Range Rover I made.

However can't find any trace on their website now. This might help however https://www.zero-paints.com/Camel_Trophy_Yellow_Paint_60ml--product--89.html

 

I was a LR and Camel Trophy fan back in the day, even had a full sized Camel Trophy V8 Discovery  for a while...

[40 058]

Tamiya do small aerosol cans of Camel yellow, TS-34.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175862528952?var=475278494797&itmmeta=01J41RJPB0M9N9DEMFHBAX38PH&hash=item28f2393bb8:g:ZLsAAOSwFrZk4Noo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwC%2B2ML1GowpmTHtU96vU4E0LIkCApWfNm1GJpsu4XuIcr4mnlFQjpZFSKGBInRshBOoFbR%2FN4jyzykrDALdxZ184rFxP%2FfLzLWXx7zT%2B5GY1nq%2FvpC%2Bj2JkxcNzQhGI4f1eN5GPLDY3u8w2KefkRDY7TZZUxvNH6drhqXHipNVzrq8togvdTJxC4hbLRFDLHybxj58SaoVcop%2FPTz6r3nCSbbDMvk%2FauYa6zbQA3AH0VOfixrMfwH2ObNdFWWr1e6A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8zlyrigZA

 

Its meant for use on plastic but if you prime the metal model well it works perfectly on them.

[Mol_PMB]

37 minutes ago, 40 058 said:

Tamiya do small aerosol cans of Camel yellow, TS-34.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175862528952?var=475278494797&itmmeta=01J41RJPB0M9N9DEMFHBAX38PH&hash=item28f2393bb8:g:ZLsAAOSwFrZk4Noo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwC%2B2ML1GowpmTHtU96vU4E0LIkCApWfNm1GJpsu4XuIcr4mnlFQjpZFSKGBInRshBOoFbR%2FN4jyzykrDALdxZ184rFxP%2FfLzLWXx7zT%2B5GY1nq%2FvpC%2Bj2JkxcNzQhGI4f1eN5GPLDY3u8w2KefkRDY7TZZUxvNH6drhqXHipNVzrq8togvdTJxC4hbLRFDLHybxj58SaoVcop%2FPTz6r3nCSbbDMvk%2FauYa6zbQA3AH0VOfixrMfwH2ObNdFWWr1e6A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8zlyrigZA

 

Its meant for use on plastic but if you prime the metal model well it works perfectly on them.

Wonderful!

I'm going to go to Halfords after work today to re-stock my primers, and will look at the colour paint range. I have found their website extremely unhelpful for paints!

In the short term I also need VW Medium Blue (or similar) and a bright yellow for the Taunus and a VW pickup (VW Bamboo Yellow would suit both I think). If Halfords are unhelpful I can probably find an approximation to these from paints already in stock. But I suspect the Camel Yellow will be more challenging to mix.

 

At present, the Range Rover and the Taunus are in white primer, while the Talbot was primed in grey and has had a topcoat of silver. The VW LT35 is looking nervously at the can of paint stripper, as that's likely to be the next victim. I also want to try and strip the paint from the fridge body of the Saurer, but that will be more challenging as it's plastic.

 

 

[40 058]

56 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

Wonderful!

I'm going to go to Halfords after work today to re-stock my primers, and will look at the colour paint range. I have found their website extremely unhelpful for paints!

In the short term I also need VW Medium Blue (or similar) and a bright yellow for the Taunus and a VW pickup (VW Bamboo Yellow would suit both I think). If Halfords are unhelpful I can probably find an approximation to these from paints already in stock. But I suspect the Camel Yellow will be more challenging to mix.

 

At present, the Range Rover and the Taunus are in white primer, while the Talbot was primed in grey and has had a topcoat of silver. The VW LT35 is looking nervously at the can of paint stripper, as that's likely to be the next victim. I also want to try and strip the paint from the fridge body of the Saurer, but that will be more challenging as it's plastic.

 

 

I haven’t been to Halfords in a while, but someone told me they’re in the process of redoing their paint lines. Many of the old ‘classic’ shades are no longer stocked. Makes sense in a way as the numbers of people wanting purple velvet or Roman bronze etc must be pretty much none these days!

You might well have to just see what’s there and pick something near to.

 

The Cortina mk4 used Signal yellow as a paint option. I’m not sure if the Taunus used exactly the same colour palette. It could well be the same though.

 

On your Saurer, try using nail varnish remover. I’ve just used it on a plastic bodied trailer to get rid of the old decals etc and it stripped it straight off! Just avoid getting it on any clear plastic as it makes it go white and cloudy!

 

Heres some prototype inspiration, I know it’s a 2 door but…

 

Edited July 30 by 40 058

[Mol_PMB]

Well the trip to Halfords produced a good selection of primers and an acceptable yellow and blue. The prices are now more eye-watering than the propellant! 
There was nothing resembling a Camel so I have ordered the Tamiya version. Meanwhile the Taunus has had a coat of yellow, but needs another. 
The next two victims will be these:

My current plan is that the LT35 will become blue with a white roof, a bit like this which was once owned by a good friend of mine:

For the Saurer fridge truck, I’d like to re-do the box with a much simpler white livery with aluminium trim. I might leave the cab as it is, perhaps add some Nestle logos. 

 

Meanwhile the bogie flat wagon shows off yet another load, a very tasty one this time!

[PaulRhB]

Yes Halfords have changed to a coded range that you look up your car to get the code and they said before that they concentrate on the last ten years colours now. 
It means taking in the old caps and trying to find which one is close. Metallics have also increased again. 
I also use Tamiya paints on the Halfords primers without any issues. 
 

[Jim Easterbrook]

8 hours ago, PaulRhB said:

Yes Halfords have said before that they concentrate on the last ten years colours now.
 

50 shades of grey (and black) then.

[ruggedpeak]

19 hours ago, 40 058 said:

Tamiya do small aerosol cans of Camel yellow, TS-34.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175862528952?var=475278494797&itmmeta=01J41RJPB0M9N9DEMFHBAX38PH&hash=item28f2393bb8:g:ZLsAAOSwFrZk4Noo&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwC%2B2ML1GowpmTHtU96vU4E0LIkCApWfNm1GJpsu4XuIcr4mnlFQjpZFSKGBInRshBOoFbR%2FN4jyzykrDALdxZ184rFxP%2FfLzLWXx7zT%2B5GY1nq%2FvpC%2Bj2JkxcNzQhGI4f1eN5GPLDY3u8w2KefkRDY7TZZUxvNH6drhqXHipNVzrq8togvdTJxC4hbLRFDLHybxj58SaoVcop%2FPTz6r3nCSbbDMvk%2FauYa6zbQA3AH0VOfixrMfwH2ObNdFWWr1e6A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8zlyrigZA

 

Its meant for use on plastic but if you prime the metal model well it works perfectly on them.

Tamiya Camel Yellow is a very different colour from Sandglow and not the colour of the Range Rover in the photo. The Tamiya colour is much more yellow and brighter than Sandglow, and is the yellow colour used by the Lotus F1 team once upon a time. Car and Land Rover enthusiasts will spot the error immediately.

 

Camel Yellow is the corporate colour of Camel cigarettes as was, as can be seen on the Camel Trophy logo on the CT vehicles. The difference between the two colours can be seen clearly on any proper CT Land Rover between the Sandglow body colour and logo.

 

 

I had one of those once upon a time😪

[Mol_PMB]

1 minute ago, ruggedpeak said:

Tamiya Camel Yellow is a very different colour from Sandglow and not the colour of the Range Rover in the photo. The Tamiya colour is much more yellow and brighter than Sandglow, and is the yellow colour used by the Lotus F1 team once upon a time. Car and Land Rover enthusiasts will spot the error immediately.

 

Camel Yellow is the corporate colour of Camel cigarettes as was, as can be seen on the Camel Trophy logo on the CT vehicles. The difference between the two colours can be seen clearly on any proper CT Land Rover between the Sandglow body colour and logo.

 

 

I had one of those once upon a time😪

Thanks for the info! Looks like I'm back to mixing it from some Humbrol colours then. 

[ruggedpeak]

Some options to avoid mixing...👍

 

https://www.hiroboy.com/Camel_Trophy_Yellow_Paint_60ml--product--2407.html

 

https://autocarpaint.co.uk/products/mixed-paint-for-austin-princess-sand-glow-aerosol-spray-a2

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125308204151

[Mol_PMB]

I have ordered another lot of camel paint, hopefully the right colour this time thanks to @ruggedpeak

 

In the meantime I have stripped the VW LT35 van. I'm glad I didn't start with this one as it would have put me right off road vehicles!

@40 058 said he'd be interested to see how I got on with this one, so here goes.
The chassis comes out with one screw and a lot of swearwords, but there aren't actually any other fixings except a tab in the front bumper area.

Then I was faced with this and my heart sank:

But actually all that gunk wasn't stuck to anything and the cab almost fell out of its own accord, leaving me with this:

 

I eventually got all the bits out, though one of the glazing pieces had obviously cracked right across when the model was made and half of it was glued in as well as the rivets.

One of the wing mirrors died in the process, and one of the windscreen wipers suffered a bit too. I'll have to make a new wing mirror support from wire; I might do both so they match.

 

Then it came to the paint stripping. That has been very hard work and at one stage I wished I hadn't started, and just painted over what was there. It has taken about six doses of paint stripper, and a lot of time with scrapers, wire brushes and the ultrasonic bath to get this far, and there's still paint in the crevices:

I'm going to have one more go at it.

 

 

Meanwhile the Taunus is progressing, with enough coats of yellow followed by some brushed Tamiya 'rubber black' on the roof.

Then I tried adding the chrome trim using one of these:

All seemed good for a few minutes until the pen decided to partly dismantle itself and created a small flood of chrome paint. Fortunately not on the model! After that I put the pen away and used a fine brush to apply the paint from the flood onto the model, which was actually more controllable than using the pen itself. I'm not 100% happy with what I've achieved but the photo above is a rather cruel close-up and I think it will look OK from a distance. I may yet do a few tweacks and touch-ups.

 

 

[40 058]

The Taunus looks fantastic! Colour looks the part compared to you photo.

They are a bit of a pain painting in the window and side trims! It’s very difficult getting a good straight edge sometimes. But, you have to remember your doing this by hand and not using the tampo printing etc etc the factory used! Sometimes you just have to do what you can do.

 

The LT sounds like an absolute nightmare though! I’ve never seen one of these so far with all that glue in the interior. Lucky it hadn’t stuck! The mirrors and wipers breaking does happen… I broke a mirror off myself today.

You are better off stripping the original paint off though, it tends to be quite thick and hides the detail so adding another layer doesn’t help. 
You could try brake fluid to strip the paint? Although even that’s not as potent as it used to be. Or maybe spray on some of the stripper and put the model in a sandwich bag overnight to stop the stripper drying out. Maybe a good soak overnight will soften the last bits of old paint?

[Mol_PMB]

I eventually got all the paint off the outside of the LT, and have resprayed it in white primer.

 

Meanwhile, I've reassembled the Talbot Horizon. This started life as a police car and I have modified it back to standard and painted it in a fairly basic silver scheme.

One challenge I've got with this, as well as the Taunus and the Range Rover, is the need to replace side windows. The Taunus has all its side windows missing, and the Horizon had one missing. The Range Rover has them painted over.

What makes this a bit more difficult is that the side windows aren't perfectly flat, but slightly curved. After much thinking and searching I found a roll of tape in a clear plastic blister-pack, from which I have cut a small section for the Horizon's side window.

It's about the same curve as the other side windows, as you can see in this shot where I've deliberately reflected a strip-light in the windows. The clarity isn't quite as good but it will do!

Here's a wider view of the Talbot Horizon:

This is basically complete now except numberplates. I didn't realise that it ought to have black trim round the windows until I'd stuck the glazing in, so it'll have to live with silver trim instead.

Whilst there are some 'signature' cars for the car park, they need to be balanced by some more standard and anonymous ones, and this fits the bill nicely. It's broadly similar to the silver hatchback just behind the Range Rover:

 

On numberplates, I am preparing some artwork for suitable plates, but will hold off getting these printed until I've decided how many I want and for which vehicles.

Swiss numberplates belong to the person, not the car. They are not linked to date in any way, except that higher-numbered ones were issued more recently.
They are also canton-specific so I mostly need plates from Fribourg (FR). This is what I've drawn so far:

The simple plate goes on the front, and the double-row one with the shields goes on the back. The black and white shield indicates Fribourg, and also appears in the GFM logo (look on the side of the railcar in the picture above).

The green one is for a tractor, and is an older format. When I do my old Renault as a tatty old farm truck, I'm not sure whether that should have white or green plates?

You can see some of the normal type of plate here, in the staff car park at Bulle:

[40 058]

Brilliant work so far👍

You’re not hanging about with these cars! I certainly wouldn’t worry about the black trim on the Horizon, it looks great as it is and it’s certainly not obviously missing anything. Sometimes less is more, or something!

 

Interesting about the number plates. So there’s nothing on them to indicate a vehicles age? 
Your artwork for them looks great so far, really look the part.

Ive no idea about the farm truck having green plates though!? In this country if it drives on public roads it has to have a normal number plate, MOT (if applicable), tax (if applicable) and insurance like any other vehicle, but quite what the rules are for other countries I don’t know… maybe they can have vehicles registered for different uses and show different plates accordingly? If you could find a photo somewhere of a real truck with the green plates that’d certainly prove it.

 

That Volvo 244 needs modelling too! You can’t model a snowy location and not have a big old Volvo in it!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145232616416?itmmeta=01J4541C6BTK1P3NHD55SPQ1CE&hash=item21d089dbe0:g:hnUAAOSwrNxk0loA&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4PvOcBrwC7x1t4CbmtjDJGw7L94hFAVweeMFsGgyBfiNLpBUPUxusAaGlsfQVOLEo%2FmtWTbB09eDCGfL9PSt4hR5yILZlSbb6j57Iyv4m4pRnSMucA4OEyqFfHg4IC52MSBl2GJcOHL5B4N0oSlgH3GipoZQm4TUBO0lKor3TpjlpUg1qrQwTFn1EIrH2tyBXTdE9yzD0pS5YY5M6Fc2DRgYMsa65poYRWhJ6H%2Bl4%2BpWTmKt%2Fyub%2FtoW3vUyumI2pZDzn1psnku%2FTEVmbWKhXgc43jvA8msZe4i%2F5mMXVcz2|tkp%3ABk9SR6bDhaShZA&edge=1

[Mol_PMB]

2 minutes ago, 40 058 said:

Brilliant work so far👍

You’re not hanging about with these cars! I certainly wouldn’t worry about the black trim on the Horizon, it looks great as it is and it’s certainly not obviously missing anything. Sometimes less is more, or something!

 

Interesting about the number plates. So there’s nothing on them to indicate a vehicles age? 
Your artwork for them looks great so far, really look the part.

Ive no idea about the farm truck having green plates though!? In this country if it drives on public roads it has to have a normal number plate, MOT (if applicable), tax (if applicable) and insurance like any other vehicle, but quite what the rules are for other countries I don’t know… maybe they can have vehicles registered for different uses and show different plates accordingly? If you could find a photo somewhere of a real truck with the green plates that’d certainly prove it.

 

That Volvo 244 needs modelling too! You can’t model a snowy location and not have a big old Volvo in it!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145232616416?itmmeta=01J4541C6BTK1P3NHD55SPQ1CE&hash=item21d089dbe0:g:hnUAAOSwrNxk0loA&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4PvOcBrwC7x1t4CbmtjDJGw7L94hFAVweeMFsGgyBfiNLpBUPUxusAaGlsfQVOLEo%2FmtWTbB09eDCGfL9PSt4hR5yILZlSbb6j57Iyv4m4pRnSMucA4OEyqFfHg4IC52MSBl2GJcOHL5B4N0oSlgH3GipoZQm4TUBO0lKor3TpjlpUg1qrQwTFn1EIrH2tyBXTdE9yzD0pS5YY5M6Fc2DRgYMsa65poYRWhJ6H%2Bl4%2BpWTmKt%2Fyub%2FtoW3vUyumI2pZDzn1psnku%2FTEVmbWKhXgc43jvA8msZe4i%2F5mMXVcz2|tkp%3ABk9SR6bDhaShZA&edge=1

 

I must confess that what I know about Swiss numberplates comes from the annals of Wikipedia and may therefore be nonsense! Perhaps one of our Swiss correspondents could set me straight if needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Switzerland

But if this is correct then there is no indication of the vehicle's age on the plate. In fact the number is probably more closely linked to the owner's age, if anything!

Plate colours are used to indicate certain categories of vehicles with green being agricultural, like these on Flickr:

But the older plates (lower numbers) sometimes have the cantonal crest instead of the abbreviation on the front; this (also on Flickr) is a Fribourg one:

What I haven't yet found is evidence of whether it's just tractors that have green plates, or whether an old truck owned by a farm would also have a green plate. Gut feel is thate the plates belong to the farm or the farmer, so they might be green.

 

Youre right about the Volvo, I'd got my eye on this one which is a couple of quid more but wouldn't need any roof repairs after removing the Police bits. But I'm kind of hoping a cheaper Police one will appear for sale!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126235197739

I'm still waiting for a more affordable Simca 1100 too.

And there are hundreds of 3-door Mk2 Escorts but no 5-door examples like the one above.

[40 058]

That green Volvo is very similar to one I’ve got. Not exactly cheap though! 
There is a 244 in the Argentina partwork series, in a maroon colour but it’s got the later style bonnet. Doesn’t seem very common in Europe either. It might be worth a search on EBay.com (rather than uk) as sometimes you find things not listed on .uk, just need to watch the postage costs.

Theres also a series of Volvo models (by Atlas I think?) which features loads of Volvo models and I think there’s a 244 in that.

Or, there’s a 144 available from an old Polish partwork which is often cheap (usually in green), which you might be able to adapt? The 200 series is a development of the older 100 series…

Also available in a taxi’s of the world collection!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387203100317?itmmeta=01J457K96D4533EKHS7FT06VP8&hash=item5a271a6e9d:g:elcAAOSwbiNmlU~A&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4C6Mkvwc15BvBmLl814tdjgMjRmhSBMbp3FNJAjOYad7mnLmKFsAvU6h9Evz%2FW9OMItLjJMsCwMsLsQZM54pFWgAZB0xBx0mVLCS1zzFfbPD%2FGt%2B56AoRBKEGcqPSoxedRa7XJ2s6%2FVww8gNtAYFwLHSSF1nGgnRSDC4Tg5sCB5GK3WhEX3e3WH%2Fpp4Y%2BDQp1DUrXLbaCkG3OluZuhRsXT7RClrr7XQ9k2VLRBARSBVxldrD%2BOsDqiWDs0gX1qmqbt4zFmtqMJpcwsgJkiaG17aT6aee1LYN6lOItaKc6x4N|tkp%3ABk9SR6aTzaehZA&edge=1

 

Escorts are one of the models that bugs me! Most models are sporty mk1 & 2 models, there are some more standard mk1 & 2’s but always in 2 door flavour. The estate and van versions would be nice to have too but I don’t think anyone does them.

 

It’s certainly possible then an old truck registered to a farm could carry green plates, if it’s the owner not the vehicle that owns the plate that might make sense. I guess it just depends on if there are/were any restrictions on the vehicles green plates could be fitted on?

[7mmin7foot]

If replacing side glazing with something not quite as clear, you could always model with window(s) down, or partly down?

Making it less obvious. Just a thought... all looking good though.

 

I too was shocked at the cost of Halfords paint, but all makes seem to have rocketed by 2 or 3x what they were .

 

Steve

[Mol_PMB]

2 hours ago, 7mmin7foot said:

If replacing side glazing with something not quite as clear, you could always model with window(s) down, or partly down?

Making it less obvious. Just a thought... all looking good though.

 

I too was shocked at the cost of Halfords paint, but all makes seem to have rocketed by 2 or 3x what they were .

 

Steve

Good thoughts, and I think the reason why some models were missing windows was because they were modelled open.

My layout's modelled on a nice sunny day so for a car (with driver) on the road that's fine. But many of the cars I'm repainting at the moment are destined for the staff car park. I think they would have their windows closed (and no driver fitted).

There will be another update on the road vehicles this evening as I have a good opportunity to make progress today.

I may also feature a couple that I've bought that I don't intend to modify/repaint as they look good already. They'll still need numberplates though.

 

Happily it's good paint-drying weather. Still not sure the Range Rover is the right colour - the Camel looks more like peanut butter than mustard. It'll do though - I'm not going to paint it again!

 

Edited August 1 by Mol_PMB
added pic

[40 058]

I quite like that colour on the Range Rover! As you say though, maybe not quite ‘yellow-ish’ enough?

 

Maybe in the summer heat the staff have left the windows open on their cars ready for home time!? Nothing worse than getting into a baking hot car and burning your legs on the vinyl seats😄

[7mmin7foot]

10 minutes ago, 40 058 said:

I quite like that colour on the Range Rover! As you say though, maybe not quite ‘yellow-ish’ enough?

 

Maybe in the summer heat the staff have left the windows open on their cars ready for home time!? Nothing worse than getting into a baking hot car and burning your legs on the vinyl seats😄

 

Oh how I remember those red hot vinyl seats in the mk1, mk2 and mk3 Cortina's I had....😊

Could never afford a mk4...

Yes I liked em at the time.. so easy to work on and do your own mechanical stuff, but also remember the wings and sills and rear arches, that rusted like **** ! 

 

Steve

Edited August 1 by 7mmin7foot

[MOB 2002]

24 minutes ago, 40 058 said:

Maybe in the summer heat the staff have left the windows open on their cars ready for home time!? Nothing worse than getting into a baking hot car and burning your legs on the vinyl seats😄

That doesn’t seem uncommon even now. I remember passing one a couple of weeks ago that was in such a state just above Lac Leman, but also with the engine left running while its owner was away working in a field well below.

 

I suspect car crime isn’t a major worry there!

 

Mark

[40 058]

1 hour ago, 7mmin7foot said:

 

Oh how I remember those red hot vinyl seats in the mk1, mk2 and mk3 Cortina's I had....😊

Could never afford a mk4...

Yes I liked em at the time.. so easy to work on and do your own mechanical stuff, but also remember the wings and sills and rear arches, that rusted like **** ! 

 

Steve

It’s still a problem for those of us stupid enough to keep hold of cars like that😄

 

 

Black vinyl all round! If you get in this with shorts on in summer you soon know about I can assure you! I can’t get out of it as quick as I used to either! 
Steering wheel gets boiling hot too.

 

My Grandparents used to live in Cyprus in the early 70’s while grandad was working at RAF Akrotiri. They had a Marina and a Renault 4 both with vinyl seats. My grandma made some white covers for the seats and steering wheel to keep the heat down while the cars were parked.

[Mol_PMB]

3 minutes ago, 40 058 said:

It’s still a problem for those of us stupid enough to keep hold of cars like that😄

 

Black vinyl all round! If you get in this with shorts on in summer you soon know about I can assure you! I can’t get out of it as quick as I used to either! 
Steering wheel gets boiling hot too.

 

My Grandparents used to live in Cyprus in the early 70’s while grandad was working at RAF Akrotiri. They had a Marina and a Renault 4 both with vinyl seats. My grandma made some white covers for the seats and steering wheel to keep the heat down while the cars were parked.

When I was a kid our family car was a navy blue Rover 100, with navy blue leather seats. I knew that pain when coming back to the car after a few hours on the beach!

After 1985 we had a Rover 2300.

We didn't visit Switzerland by car so I can't justify one of these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/355914083193

or even one of these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134986372709