Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Well, everyone’s got to start somewhere! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM666 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I think Mercedes may have painted themselves into a corner with Antonelli. I have no doubt that he is good, but a more pragmatic approach may have been to put Sainz in the Merc for two years and allow Antonelli to do his learning and make his mistakes out of the spotlight at Williams. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 5 minutes ago, SteveM666 said: I think Mercedes may have painted themselves into a corner with Antonelli. I have no doubt that he is good, but a more pragmatic approach may have been to put Sainz in the Merc for two years and allow Antonelli to do his learning and make his mistakes out of the spotlight at Williams. The problem is that Hamilton left a year earlier than they expected, it should have been Hamilton next year and Antonelli in 2026, but Ferrari made him an offer and off he went. No-one was going to go to Mercedes on a one year deal so they had to promote Antonelli a year earlier. What I don't get is that it is Russell who had to give up the car this weekend for Hamilton's replacement - it's going to spoil his preparation. It's not like either of them are in any way going to be challenging for the F1 driver or constructors at the end of this year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 15 minutes ago, woodenhead said: What I don't get is that it is Russell who had to give up the car this weekend for Hamilton's replacement - it's going to spoil his preparation. It's not like either of them are in any way going to be challenging for the F1 driver or constructors at the end of this year. Both have to so has Lewis already made way for another young driver this year? Alternatively, it's already planned for Lewis to move aside in one of the upcoming races. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: What I don't get is that it is Russell who had to give up the car this weekend for Hamilton's replacement - it's going to spoil his preparation. It's not like either of them are in any way going to be challenging for the F1 driver or constructors at the end of this year. Assuming the car isn't 100% as good as it was or not ready for FP2 then You can imagine George dialling up the infamous Mark Webber quote from Japan 2008 when Vettel went into the back of him ("It's kids isn't it? Kids with not enough experience, doing a good job and then they f*** it all up.") . That "kid" did alright in the end so I can imagine Kimi's trajectory will be unchanged... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30 What happens when a safety car crashes? (Occupants OK) https://www.facebook.com/reel/491215370371764 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 8 hours ago, newbryford said: What happens when a safety car crashes? (Occupants OK) https://www.facebook.com/reel/491215370371764 Logan Sargeant given a new seat? 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 28/08/2024 at 16:31, Andrew P said: I'm not a fan of his, but I am surprised to see Alonso as high as no7. He seems to be one of the better ones at keeping clear of trouble. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted August 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31 7 hours ago, Pete the Elaner said: I'm not a fan of his, but I am surprised to see Alonso as high as no7. He seems to be one of the better ones at keeping clear of trouble. He doesn't like being beaten by a team mate. Lance Stroll is at number five, so perhaps he is trying to overtake him. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 Antonelli confirmed for Mercedes. Didn't see that one coming!!! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 31 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, didcot said: Antonelli confirmed for Mercedes. The perfect way for Toto to express continuing confidence in the youngster after his 'off' yesterday. And it settles the driver market, too. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted August 31 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31 This season sort of feels like 2009 - where one team dominated the start of the season but then became slower as the other teams caught up. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 (edited) Well that was unexpected and good to see. Mclaren lost that. Oscar's move into the chicane on Lando really didn't help the team. Too close and could have ended the race there. Clearly not interested in helping Lando towards the drivers championship. Having said that Lando's mistake didn't help either. Edited September 1 by didcot 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 1 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1 The lowly finishes for Red Bull, with big gaps ahead of both cars, tell us a lot about how much way they have lost recently. And the team Championship gap is now in single figures! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 9 minutes ago, didcot said: Well that was unexpected and good to see. Mclaren lost that. Oscar's move into the chicane on Lando really didn't help the team. Too close and could have ended the race there. Clearly not interested in helping Lando towards the drivers championship. Having said that Lando's mistake didn't help either. They perhaps first wanted to ensure a 1-2, they could sort the car order later - but LeClerc staying out on a one stop destroyed that option plus Norris seemed to have more degradation than piastri so it remained as it was to the end. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Derek 19B Posted September 1 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1 Excellent race from start to Finnish . Not sure what Ch4 will cut. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 (edited) Magnesson appears to have reached 12 penalty points and will miss the next race. Edited September 1 by didcot 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted September 1 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1 38 minutes ago, didcot said: Magnesson appears to have reached 12 penalty points and will miss the next race. Ollie Bearman, come on down! 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 1 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1 58 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: with big gaps ahead of both cars, tell us a lot about how much way they have lost recently Horner moaning about others cars tells us how much they’re missing their little ‘clarification’ 😂 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, didcot said: Magnesson appears to have reached 12 penalty points and will miss the next race. Nice to hear that the penalty actually gets applied. Most penalty points are earned in practise though, where grid & time penalties for the race are deemed inappropriate. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: They perhaps first wanted to ensure a 1-2, they could sort the car order later - but LeClerc staying out on a one stop destroyed that option plus Norris seemed to have more degradation than piastri so it remained as it was to the end. I agreed with their swapping back of places in Hungary but not today. Being a little further along in the season & with Norris' win last week, he should have their full support now. I said a while back that no 1 driver had enough of an advantage to win the remaining races the way Verstappen has won the first few & that wins would be 'shared' around. That makes the lead look huge if he can keep picking up minor points. Ferrari's strategy was a gamble which paid off. They did not know until about lap 50 that it was the right one & if he had a spin due to lack of grip, it could easily have made it a losing gamble. A Ferrari win in Monza is as popular as things get with local fans though. Leclerc in particular will have a good night & I am sure the team will ensure Sainz will do too. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted September 1 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1 10 minutes ago, Pete the Elaner said: Ferrari's strategy was a gamble which paid off. They did not know until about lap 50 that it was the right one & if he had a spin due to lack of grip, it could easily have made it a losing gamble. A Ferrari win in Monza is as popular as things get with local fans though. Leclerc in particular will have a good night & I am sure the team will ensure Sainz will do too. Yes you are right having been there on such occasions a number of times. I would though, if I may suggest, that a Ferrari victory will be popular around the world having many fans here in the UK too. Forza Ferrari! Kind regards, 30368 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted September 1 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1 The good news is that Ferrari winning in Monza increases the average happiness of the human race by a measurable amount! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted September 1 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1 I enjoyed that today, alway good to see Ferrari win at Monza. I’m not sure it was the right call from McLaren allowing the drivers to race - think that could have cost them the 1,2 today. (All if buts and maybes though) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 As other have mentioned Mclaren do need to get behind Lando, but seem reluctant to do it. I may be wrong, but I don't see Oscar pulling over to let Lando through either. Time will tell. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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