Locomotion Farish 47 - Prince William

[AY Mod]

Locomotion Models announce exclusive Graham Farish N Gauge Class 47/7 Diesel No.47798 ‘Prince William’ in EWS Royal Claret.

 

 

In the early 1970s, the Class 47 fleet underwent a renumbering process into the 47xxx series, with sub-classes created based on the specific electrical equipment fitted to each locomotive. Notably, two locomotives from the Class 47/7 sub-class, namely No.47798 ‘Firefly’ and No.47799 ‘Windsor Castle, were dedicated for Royal Train service and later renamed 'Prince William’ and 'Prince Henry' respectively. Their distinguished service continued until 2004 when they were succeeded by Class 67 locomotives, prompting their withdrawal for preservation. ‘Prince William’ is now part of the National Collection and is currently housed at the National Railway Museum in York. 

 

 

This exclusive model from Locomotion Models is available in standard DCC Ready and DCC Sound Fitted at £179.95 and £279.95 respectively and can be reserved with a deposit on our website today, with delivery expected in December. 

 

The British Rail Class 47, also known as Brush Type 4 locomotives, stands as a testament to the ingenuity of railway engineering. Developed by Brush Traction in the 1960s, these diesel-electric engines have not only shaped the landscape of British rail transport but have also left an indelible mark on the history of locomotive manufacturing.

 

Between 1962 and 1968, a remarkable 512 Class 47 locomotives rolled off the production lines at Brush’s Falcon Works in Loughborough and British Railways Crewe Works. This impressive quantity awards these locomotives their status as the most numerous class of British mainline diesel locomotive ever produced.

 

The versatility of the Class 47s is reflected in their over 55 years of service, operating both freight and passenger duties on British rails. Even today, a significant number of these locomotives continue to operate on both mainline and heritage railways, showcasing their enduring reliability and adaptability.

 

 

The origins of the Class 47 can be traced back to the British Transport Commission's (BTC) 'Modernisation Plan' of 1954, which aimed to phase out steam locomotives from British Rails. The plan stipulated the need for a large build of Type 4 locomotives with an axle load not exceeding 19 tonnes. Four proposals were received, with the bid from the Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Company, Associated Electrical Industries and Sulzer emerging as the preferred option. However, production was halted before prototypes could be assessed.

 

Subsequently, the BTC sought tenders for twenty locomotives of the new Type 4 specification, utilising the Brush electrical equipment originally intended for the cancelled prototypes. Brush was awarded the contract, and the success of the initial twenty locomotives led to an additional order of 270 units, culminating in the production of a total of 512 engines.

Our highly detailed N-Gauge Class 47/7 No.47798 ‘Prince William’ model is being produced exclusively for Locomotion Models by Graham Farish. It features a die-cast chassis with all wheel drive, NEM coupling pockets, directional lighting and is supplied with an accessory pack including cosmetic couplings and buffer beam pipework. 

 

Stuart David Brown, Retail & Models Team Leader for Locomotion Models said “We are pleased to offer the first exclusive locomotive in the National Collection in Miniature N-Gauge series. The OO-gauge version of Prince William was first released by Locomotion Models in 2012 and proved extremely popular, so we are looking forward to the arrival of this iconic locomotive in N-Gauge and hope it will be equally as successful.”

Richard Proudman, Rail Brand Manager for Bachmann Europe said: “Bachmann has enjoyed a close relationship with the National Railway Museum and Locomotion Models for many years, indeed together we launched the National Collection in Miniature range with the Bachmann Branchline OO scale model of DP1, kickstarting a long and rewarding relationship. We are delighted that Locomotion Models have chosen to partner with Bachmann and our Graham Farish brand to launch their first ever N scale model. This model of ‘Prince William’ is a fitting subject which takes full advantage of the new and upgraded Graham Farish Class 47.”

 

 

[Graham_Muz]

And the 'Spare' to make a pair is available here 

 

[carderrail]

I hope the front jumpers are correct on the ones being produced....... Would be weird otherwise as the other loco with Kernow only has one jumper!

[Robert Shrives]

A good Royalist deal... I guess we now need royal stock to match.  Mind you too many years ago I did allocate one to a Ballast from Crewe- only donkey left to haul but driver did question the allocation it was pointed out it was working near Chatsworth... 

Will look to order later as I have etches for farish coaches - might end up on Dapol ones

 

Robert  

[gedlee]

I ordered a sound fitted version exactly a week ago today and paid for 48 hour delivery.

I haven’t heard a thing. Appalling!!!

Answer phone messages and emails have been ignored completely.

No confirmation of despatch, no courier identified, no tracking number and NO DELIVERY.

 I have even contacted the administrative office of the Science Museum and they passed my information to Locomotion Models and still NOTHING.

I think it will have to be Trading Standards next.

Have others had a similar experience.

cheers,

Ged.

 

[woodenhead]

41 minutes ago, gedlee said:

I ordered a sound fitted version exactly a week ago today and paid for 48 hour delivery.

I haven’t heard a thing. Appalling!!!

Answer phone messages and emails have been ignored completely.

No confirmation of despatch, no courier identified, no tracking number and NO DELIVERY.

 I have even contacted the administrative office of the Science Museum and they passed my information to Locomotion Models and still NOTHING.

I think it will have to be Trading Standards next.

Have others had a similar experience.

cheers,

Ged.

 

[gedlee]

Thanks Woodenhead,

 

I have read all of that BUT,

I have left telephone messages during their advertised opening hours as no-one answers the phone.

I have sent several email messages with no response.

When I contacted the central admin office of the Science Museum they were not aware of any staffing issues. When I sent another email, with details, to them, they forwarded it to Locomotion Models on my behalf. Still no response.

[woodenhead]

For any chargeback rights on non delivery you'll have to wait at least 28 days from ordering.

 

So you might as well just sit tight and see what occurs, if they don't deliver you get your money back, if they do deliver you get your loco.  But I would complain about the 48 hour postal charge if you've paid extra for that over free postage.

 

Edit: I see it's a flat fee so they are unlikely to refund it as it's what they charge everyone.

Edited July 19 by woodenhead

[AY Mod]

4 minutes ago, gedlee said:

BUT

 

Read the content that Wooden head posted again (until you understand what the bit in italics says). Try again on Monday rather than ranting on RMweb on a Friday afternoon.

[gedlee]

Thanks Mod,

I have read it all and I know my rights under The Sale of Goods Act. They have taken my money so I should have the goods.

I will cease now but simply was interested to see if any other members had experienced similar issues.

[woodenhead]

5 minutes ago, gedlee said:

Thanks Mod,

I have read it all and I know my rights under The Sale of Goods Act. They have taken my money so I should have the goods.

I will cease now but simply was interested to see if any other members had experienced similar issues.

The simplest option is Chargeback via your card provider, you don't need to go through the Sale of Goods act or anything formal.

 

It's just the rules state the card provider has to allow the merchant 28 days from when the goods should have arrived to make good the problem.  All you need to do is contact them in 28 days and tell them you've not received the goods.  They'll simply credit your card and then take the money back from the merchant, if the merchant disputes they have to prove they delivered the goods.

[Kaput]

Unfortunately Locomotion Models seems to be a very very small team which is often far from ideal for a retailer selling exclusive models.

[Locomotion No. 3]

On 19/07/2024 at 13:20, gedlee said:

I ordered a sound fitted version exactly a week ago today and paid for 48 hour delivery.

I haven’t heard a thing. Appalling!!!

Answer phone messages and emails have been ignored completely.

No confirmation of despatch, no courier identified, no tracking number and NO DELIVERY.

 I have even contacted the administrative office of the Science Museum and they passed my information to Locomotion Models and still NOTHING.

I think it will have to be Trading Standards next.

Have others had a similar experience.

cheers,

Ged.

 

Apologies that you have been struggling to contact our team, as an above user has mentioned, we are an extremely workforce, with just two staff members working part-time alongside other roles in the museum. We are trying to get through shipments as quickly as possible and a number of models were collected by our courier today so hopefully you will receive your model soon. Apologies again for the delay.

[RichardT]

Just wistfully remembering those days of yore when all mail order adverts used to say “allow 28 days for delivery” and people just got on with their lives…

 

You rather implied that you’d selected some kind of premium delivery option by saying that you’d “paid for 48 hour delivery” when in fact as is clear from their web ordering process you’ve simply paid Locomotion Models’ standard flat rate delivery charge, which they advise as being normally two days. 

 

“Two days delivery” actually means from when the package enters the postal system - it’s how long the courier commits to take.  If it takes two or three days for the retailer to retrieve, pack, address and dispatch the package (which is quite feasible for a part-time staffed operation at peak summer holiday times) then you have to add those days to the two in-transit delivery days.

 

Thanks for supporting the NRM with your purchase.  I’d suggest that, for your blood pressure’s sake, you don’t plan to renumber the model by ordering transfers from Modelmaster…😉

Edited July 22 by RichardT

[Roy Langridge]

On 19/07/2024 at 17:02, gedlee said:

Thanks Mod,

I have read it all and I know my rights under The Sale of Goods Act. They have taken my money so I should have the goods.

I will cease now but simply was interested to see if any other members had experienced similar issues.

Lol - you know your rights under an act that was repealed in 2015? There is nothing in it’s replacement, The Consumer Rights Act that says you must get your goods in a week. 
 

Now that newer act says “Deliveries must happen within 30 days, unless agreed otherwise.” and nowhere on the Locomotion website does it say that does not apply. 

So, long and the short of it, you haven’t got a case, so no, you don’t know what your rights are. 

 

Roy

Edited July 28 by Roy Langridge
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