woodenhead Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Anyone got a link to the new track layout? 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Brilliant vidio NR are really replacing everything fantastic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Earlier video of the planned remodelling. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2251 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Whenever the subject of Carstairs comes up, I always find myself wondering why the cut-off line from north of the Clyde bridge to the Edinburgh line was closed in the first place and not rebuilt since. It seems far more suited to high-speed running than the current alignment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, 2251 said: Whenever the subject of Carstairs comes up, I always find myself wondering why the cut-off line from north of the Clyde bridge to the Edinburgh line was closed in the first place and not rebuilt since. It seems far more suited to high-speed running than the current alignment. Not the first time this has been mentioned, apparently it's a flood plane and marshy, though the track was on an embankment, last used in 1860 after which it became a couple of sidings. Seems that even now the current junction is preferred over re-opening that route - maybe the cost benefit of elevated speeds does not add up for the number of services using the curve from South to East, whereas the awful North to East reverse camber justifies investment and realignment. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Some more reading suggests that it has been looked at again more recently and HS2 may one day play a part, but it was going to be difficult to get higher speed points in at the location without affecting line speed and the Scottish Government are also not concerned with helping Network Rail i.e. they will pay for infrastructure that benefits Scots but not London - which kinda makes sense. So it may be that when HS2 finally looks at services beyond the border they may again look at realignment of the South junction at Carstairs when it comes out of national budgets. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I've seen some basic plans on t'interweb, but nothing that explains how the sleepers wil continue to split/combine or if anything will replace the current down main or up Edinburgh loops... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Theses and the official diagrams which I believe are now in the public domain. It appears to me that there is no loss of capability to split or combine compared with the old layout. Jim 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 19 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: Theses and the official diagrams which I believe are now in the public domain. It appears to me that there is no loss of capability to split or combine compared with the old layout. Jim Turns out what I thought were official drawings were actually blank sheet thinking using Google earth and the unlimited time and money that passengers think should be done instantly instead of building HS2, and no way achievable for the budget quoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 17/03/2023 at 22:12, luckymucklebackit said: Theses and the official diagrams which I believe are now in the public domain. It appears to me that there is no loss of capability to split or combine compared with the old layout. Jim Have you got a copy of the equivalent previous diagram? What was the current speed on the Up Main through the platforms? I always thought it odd how the South to Edinburgh curve went into a single junction but opened out into double track fairly quickly where the Glasgow to Edinburgh curve was essentially single track all the way round when I would have expected that to have the busier side of the junction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 hours ago, GordonC said: Have you got a copy of the equivalent previous diagram? What was the current speed on the Up Main through the platforms? I always thought it odd how the South to Edinburgh curve went into a single junction but opened out into double track fairly quickly where the Glasgow to Edinburgh curve was essentially single track all the way round when I would have expected that to have the busier side of the junction If you go to https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-and-commercial/information-for-operators/national-electronic-sectional-appendix/ and download the Scottish Sectional Appendix, you will find the old layout with speed restrictions it hasn't been updated yet. Carstairs is on page 178. Jim 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2023 This is the layout shown on TRACKSY at the moment: Link: TRACKSY Live Map 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2023 Open to through trains today. The new diagram, that has been on Railcam for weeks, is now active. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2023 The Traksy map needs amending, it doesn't look right and there are no signal berth numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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