RAF96 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Here is a real one seen a good few years ago on the Mid Norfolk Railway double heading with a DMU. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted July 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18 Picked up mine from Paul at Alton Models this morning. A thing of beauty and it ran perfectly from the go, really smooth and amazing slow running to boot. Paul told me that everyone he has run for customers has been perfect. Its a fantastic model and credit to the guys at Rapido and the factory out in China. Looking forward to the E1. all the best Godfrey PS Its a rule 1 purchase but worth every penny! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewEWS Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Can anyone suggest some suitable rolling stock other than coaches as mentioned above? I know there are some MET and LT open wagons by Rapido, but does anyone have any further information on the type of goods stock these ran with? Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 My four from Derails should be arriving tomorrow. I also appear to have "accidentally" ordered the LTM edition. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, MatthewEWS said: Can anyone suggest some suitable rolling stock other than coaches as mentioned above? I know there are some MET and LT open wagons by Rapido, but does anyone have any further information on the type of goods stock these ran with? Thanks They were passenger engines originally and after the Metropolitan was absorbed into London Transport in 1933 they only hauled works trains. Most of the wagons used by the Met/LT were of the five plank type painted a mid grey with white lettering, they were ordered/delivered in different batches and had slight variations. London Transport purchased some brake vans from Hurst Neilson in 1935 a kit for which was available from the late Phil Radley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 RT does a great etched and white metal kit, see my thread below. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 hours ago, RogerTE said: Waiting for mine (ordered it late!), but when it comes I will be re-gauging to P4 (Haven't yet thought about how to do it, that will have to wait until I can do the measurements or, hopefully, one of the companies that are good at that sort of thing brings out a conversion kit!) Went down that route but cancelled my order as someone mentioned that another Rapido loco had an odd chassis arrangement. Ordered the SEF one instead. Gibson does the correct P4 wheels but on 1/4” axles - Rapido are rumoured to use 3mm but could be reamed out, maybe. The SEF chassis is good and compensated if you decide to scrap the Rapido one. See my thread below. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerTE Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 10 hours ago, Jeff Smith said: Went down that route but cancelled my order as someone mentioned that another Rapido loco had an odd chassis arrangement. Ordered the SEF one instead. Gibson does the correct P4 wheels but on 1/4” axles - Rapido are rumoured to use 3mm but could be reamed out, maybe. The SEF chassis is good and compensated if you decide to scrap the Rapido one. See my thread below. Yes I have a P4 SEF one, but using Sharman wheels which I bought many years ago in anticipation 😃. I have just examined the Rapido model (someone else's) and must admit it is superb, much better than the SEF body. One of the options I have been considering is seeing whether the SEF chassis can be be adapted to fit. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted July 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19 Can anybody tell me if the Met 1 has a flickering firebox on analogue please ? Mine arrived today and just glows red ! Thanks in advance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, Eddie the dog said: Can anybody tell me if the Met 1 has a flickering firebox on analogue please ? Mine arrived today and just glows red ! Thanks in advance. On other models the flicker only happens on DCC because it’s a lighting function of the chip. It doesn’t mention it in the Rapido blurb and is called firebox glow on previous models so it may be a slight typo error. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapido staff RapidoCorbs Posted July 19 Rapido staff Share Posted July 19 13 hours ago, Jeff Smith said: Went down that route but cancelled my order as someone mentioned that another Rapido loco had an odd chassis arrangement. Ordered the SEF one instead. Gibson does the correct P4 wheels but on 1/4” axles - Rapido are rumoured to use 3mm but could be reamed out, maybe. The SEF chassis is good and compensated if you decide to scrap the Rapido one. See my thread below. Met 1 has 2mm axles on both driving and trailing wheels. Driving axles are geared together. Hope this is useful! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted July 19 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19 The YouTube clip on the Rapido website that demonstrates the sound has a clip of ‘dynamic firebox draw’ ie. flickering firebox, so I think I’ve just answered my own question 🙄 Thanks anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerTE Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 19 hours ago, MatthewEWS said: Can anyone suggest some suitable rolling stock other than coaches as mentioned above? I know there are some MET and LT open wagons by Rapido, but does anyone have any further information on the type of goods stock these ran with? Thanks Whilst in Metropolitan use and up until being LT engines they were primarily passenger engines, mostly pulling Dreadnoughts (with and without the Pullmans). I have only seen one photo of one attached to an Ashbury coach whilst in Met days, but that only showed part of the first carriage. During LT days they were mainly used on departmental duties (e.g. the rubbish trips), although my late dads first job on the Met was a fireman on one that was used during the dismantling of the Brill branch (he later went on to become a driver of F class locos). During WW2 they were often used as substitute passenger engines, again pulling Dreadnoughts north of Rickmansworth. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 17 hours ago, Jeff Smith said: Went down that route but cancelled my order as someone mentioned that another Rapido loco had an odd chassis arrangement. Ordered the SEF one instead. Gibson does the correct P4 wheels but on 1/4” axles - Rapido are rumoured to use 3mm but could be reamed out, maybe. The SEF chassis is good and compensated if you decide to scrap the Rapido one. See my thread below. 4 hours ago, RapidoCorbs said: Met 1 has 2mm axles on both driving and trailing wheels. Driving axles are geared together. Hope this is useful! Sounds very challenging! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerTE Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 18 hours ago, RapidoCorbs said: Met 1 has 2mm axles on both driving and trailing wheels. Driving axles are geared together. Hope this is useful! Yep - tells me I need to look at a replacement chassis! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 20 hours ago, RogerTE said: During WW2 they were often used as substitute passenger engines, again pulling Dreadnoughts north of Rickmansworth. Casserley's The later years of Metropolitan Steam has one on standby in April 1947 due to shortages at Neasden, which is "useful". Albin Reed's The Met.and GC Line: An Observer's Notes, 1948-68 also notes them on the Neasden-Willesden Green (mostly) coal service - no pictures of E Class on these, but the other illustrations appear to show various types of (BR) 16T minerals and 5/7 planks. He also notes the occasional Hybars, Shocwagons and tube (tubing) wagons, with a mixture of LT and BR brakes. There's also mention of a *single* instance of an E Class with Ashbury stock (in non-railtour use). Edited July 20 by Mark Dickerson Qualified Willesden Green 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20 When first introduced the four wheel 'Jubilee' stock was still in use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapido staff RapidoCorbs Posted July 20 Rapido staff Share Posted July 20 On 19/07/2024 at 14:47, Eddie the dog said: Can anybody tell me if the Met 1 has a flickering firebox on analogue please ? Mine arrived today and just glows red ! Thanks in advance. DC-Ready / Silent models will just have the firebox LED light, no flicker as this is controlled by the software on the DCC decoder used on the DCC / Sound-Fitted models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted July 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20 Can I ask whether the flicker is controllable on dcc fitted models that are not sound, I have tried with a Lenz decoder and can control either red or yellow leds that are on constantly but cannot get to flicker. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapido staff RapidoCorbs Posted July 20 Rapido staff Share Posted July 20 13 minutes ago, Eddie the dog said: Can I ask whether the flicker is controllable on dcc fitted models that are not sound, I have tried with a Lenz decoder and can control either red or yellow leds that are on constantly but cannot get to flicker. Thanks. To the best of my knowledge there is no flicker control on the PCB in the loco, only on the software on the DCC sound chip. Factory DCC sound-fitted locos will have the flicker when running on analogue. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted July 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21 11 hours ago, Eddie the dog said: Can I ask whether the flicker is controllable on dcc fitted models that are not sound, I have tried with a Lenz decoder and can control either red or yellow leds that are on constantly but cannot get to flicker. Thanks. If I'm reading Decoder Pro correctly for Lenz you need to set CV62 based on whether the light is on output C or D (Think that works out as Aux 1 or 2): 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 16/07/2024 at 14:54, Phil Parker said: The LT Museum has also been rebranding, with a logo incorporating all tube line colours. I found the pictures particularly interesting, but was told I couldn't go to London to cover the event... ☹️ They certainly don't look like museum pieces ! SWMBO isn't interested in trains, but chocolate cake is another matter altogether. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linesideohotos Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) Well there is a prototype for everything !! Those of us with a green 2H Hampshire unit with small yellow panels can run this 2014 train . Air brakes being the requirement . Met 1 approaches Ropley Mid Hants Railway Edited July 21 by Linesideohotos 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewchallenger Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 My Met 1 arrived yesterday, beautiful locomotive and flawless runner. here she is on a short freight and with the rest of my LT/Met stock 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted July 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21 3 hours ago, Linesideohotos said: Well there is a prototype for everything !! Those of us with a green 2H Hampshire unit with small yellow panels can run this 2014 train . Air brakes being the requirement . Met 1 approaches Ropley Mid Hants Railway It’s worth pointing out that the real loco has vacuum brakes (as well as air) otherwise it would not have been able to haul the Bluebell Railways vacuum braked stock under the capital to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the first section of the opening of the first section of the underground under central London back in 2013. As to why the Mid-Hants chose to use its air brake facility the following year I will leave others to explain…. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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