XChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I resisted the Hattons ones, after there issues. But now the detail is there and AS will be QC’ing them I think it might be the time to be switching from Bachmann to AS 66’s. Well my eBay will be busy… 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2023 You are getting a bit annoying with your announcements. Another one I had to pre- order. Hopefully you will cure the wobble which most of the Hattons ones (including mine) had. Now please, give my wallet a bit of breathing time... Looking forward to this model. 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurascale staff McC Posted February 24, 2023 Accurascale staff Share Posted February 24, 2023 The launch video and running characteristics can be seen here 10 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegleg90 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Well… you had me thinking a class 73 announcement with the Caledonian stock at the beginning. followed by “not another class 66 version, that’s 4 now” To YES! Whoop! Very pleased and impressed with this announcement at being able to take a very good model, secure the tooling and enhancing it up another few notches! Especially with the sound version not being too far off the price a few years ago (happy to be corrected on this!). Very nice, probably the DRS version for me atm, dread to think which other versions you’ll be doing for runs 2 & 3 onwards! this seems a smallish offering to start for yourselves though - Not a complaint, just an observation. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) So the niggle list with hattons ones and what I saw in the video picked out… 1. Front airdam steps falling out 2. Axle boxes falling off - Addressed 3. Cab door steps / other body mount under hangings falling off - Addressed 4. Body side grills popping out when removing the body 5. Roof grill coming detached with minor handling - Addressed 6. LEDs in modes -Addressed 7. Dead motors - Seems to have been unfortunate batch for Hattons 8. Poorly attached gear tower lids 9. Plastic drive shafts (weak). Any ive missed / fixed ? I shared thoughts with on the above previously in the Hattons 66 thread, but solutions could be.. 1. Mold it on. 4. lug them in 8. QA 9. Make the shaft thicker plastic so it doesnt bend, or a metal one like the Dapol 121 (the setup and towers are the same type). Edited February 24, 2023 by adb968008 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 Although not my era I do like 66’s so I can see myself ordering one as they look great 😉👍🏼 are they like previous Accurascale releases with the option of drop in EM P4 wheelsets? Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Very interesting, do wonder of the haulage capacity as my Bachmann one just about pulls a realistic rake of HTA hoppers. EWS and freightliner will do very nicely explains why the hattons 66 some what disappeared after it's original launch, this along with Cavalex 56 and 60 is going to be an expensive year 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 This is good, and in one announcement Accurascale have answered probably the two most criticised aspects of the Hatton's 66: the falling-off-rotating-axleboxes, and the damage to the steps done when lifting the body off to fit a decoder - that removable roof hatch is a great idea, carried over from their Deltic. One other criticism of the Hatton's otherwise excellent model was the wobbling evident on some as they moved, caused by the holes in the side frames not quite aligning properly with the axles and their rotating bits. some people addressed that by drilling out the holes a bit (I did this myself). I daresay Accurascale will address this too as it would show up in their test running of the EPs. I'm not sure I need any more 66s myself, although I would be happy to trade my Bachmann models in for similar Accurascale ones. 😁 😁😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurascale staff Popular Post McC Posted February 24, 2023 Accurascale staff Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pegleg90 said: this seems a smallish offering to start for yourselves though - Not a complaint, just an observation. We're shifting slightly to a model of smaller batches (as the volumes are staggering) so that we can deliver in short order, and then more frequent batches. No one wants to wait 2 years from announcement to a model after all. 27 2 1 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, hammy said: Very interesting, do wonder of the haulage capacity as my Bachmann one just about pulls a realistic rake of HTA hoppers. EWS and freightliner will do very nicely explains why the hattons 66 some what disappeared after it's original launch, this along with Cavalex 56 and 60 is going to be an expensive year Hattons 66 pulled the house down, so Ive no doubts on this one. Bachmann diesels can be a bit light, the 70 pulls nowt. I do wonder if Bachmann are working a new 66 though, given the 37/47 I cant imagine them letting it go. But the Hattons 66 was best in class despite its issues, if Accurascale address it all, it will be the undoubted crown of OO models. Edited February 24, 2023 by adb968008 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Great announcement and great to see you guys taking on this class. The 2 things that jump out straight away for me is: 1) The front cab rail still looks to be made from plastic, therefore looks to bend/be wonky. I personally think this should be metal. 2) The headlight/markers don’t match the colour and intensity of the prototype. This was a major problem for me with the Hattons model. The top marker colour and intensity should match that of the lower 2 markers with the day/night headlight should be a brighter more intense light. The older wipac style light clusters have a “warm” coloured glow to them whereas the newer light clusters have LED’s which have a more “pure white” colour to them. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accurascale staff McC Posted February 24, 2023 Accurascale staff Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Shoey said: Great announcement and great to see you guys taking on this class. The 2 things that jump out straight away for me is: 1) The front cab rail still looks to be made from plastic, therefore looks to bend/be wonky. I personally think this should be metal. 2) The headlight/markers don’t match the colour and intensity of the prototype. This was a major problem for me with the Hattons model. The top marker colour and intensity should match that of the lower 2 markers with the day/night headlight should be a brighter more intense light. The older wipac style light clusters have a “warm” coloured glow to them whereas the newer light clusters have LED’s which have a more “pure white” colour to them. Absolutely, the rail is plastic, due to the mounting points, but will be formed from a very rigid type we've used in the past for details, and we've completely replaced the entire PCB and all wiring / LEDS to offer a complexly accurate lighting suite (and our standard stay live, accurathrash speakers, etc) Edited February 24, 2023 by McC 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 WOW did not expect that. Wanted a Hattons 66 but was put off by the flaws in the first batch. however NO EVENING STAR???? I would have thought that would be a good seller. I was really hoping Hattons would do this in a second batch. Accurascale exclusive maybe??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, adb968008 said: one thing I should add, at least its all in the open about how this 66 moved from Hattons to Accurascale.. unlike the fog of the EFE 143/144. That's my thoughts on this development. Out in the open, honest and building on the excellent relationship between company and customer. The Hatton's 66 is/was a good engine, with very little wrong with it overall and pushing the boundaries of what can be done. I think it got a massively unfair press from media, commentators and parrots repeating someone else's view without their own thinking. The toys thrown out of the pram over the model prove that it was done well and had to be undermined. The livery choices still allow for a number of different engines to be done, including some 'celebs' that have not been covered by anyone yet. I also think some done might be re-done with a model to higher standards, but will have to wait and see. An excellent move showing how the companies and parts within it can form effective and sensible ways forwards maximising the expertise of both. Some companies out there should take note. This is how its done. 3 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Vistisen Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 Acurascale Mmodified Ggenetically A souped up version of some else's base model... I'm sure I have seen that before. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2023 Slightly surprised the DB one isn't 66105, given it already carries the brand's logo ;) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: WOW did not expect that. Wanted a Hattons 66 but was put off by the flaws in the first batch. however NO EVENING STAR???? I would have thought that would be a good seller. I was really hoping Hattons would do this in a second batch. Accurascale exclusive maybe??? Certainly it's bound to be someone's exclusive. MAYBE NRM? Even though it's not in the national collection it's namesake is and I reckon they might go out on a limb for this? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 A question on 66507, will it have what appears to be a green surround on the Freightliner logo? Looking on Flickr I can’t see the green surround on photos, it could well be there in reality but I can’t see a picture of it. I quite like the idea of renumbering it to 506 in a later era, but a green surround would stop that idea? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2023 Very clever business move and definitely delivering something really positive for the hobby. Now the $64,000 question - which you probably won't answer at this time in public - is does it extend to Hattons other adventure into r-t-r (where a basically pretty good body was accompanied by some very strange mechanism arrangements and variable performance? Only asking becai use I can think of various things it would really go with. 3 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted February 24, 2023 Administrators Share Posted February 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, XChris said: A question on 66507, will it have what appears to be a green surround on the Freightliner logo? Looking on Flickr I can’t see the green surround on photos, it could well be there in reality but I can’t see a picture of it. 10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted February 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2023 Excellent news, great to know the Hattons tooling will be further developed and used. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, AY Mod said: Gosh that’s barely noticeable! But there non the less! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) What a time to be alive ! what a time to be a modeller ! My entire fleet is rendered obsolete Here's a shed an hour ago - he gave me big tonezzz (sorry about that ,I'm 50 not 15 ). Edited February 24, 2023 by rob D2 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillar Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Not something I expected, but interesting! The main thing I would ask is whether the WIPAC light clusters will be the correct size? They looked too large on the original Hattons versions. Another vote for EM/P4 wheelsets too! Although the axleboxes might make this tricky. Edited February 24, 2023 by Pillar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 It's good to see what was developed by Hattons not going to be wasted and have some reworking by Accurascale who are expert at noting all the detail changes and will no doubt be churning out all the new liveries that continue to be applied. Price is good as well 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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