The Bandit Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 A brilliant piece of modelling. A pleasure to view. You’ve had my vote. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted March 4 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 4 8 hours ago, The Bandit said: A brilliant piece of modelling. A pleasure to view. You’ve had my vote. Thanks! The trouble with getting a layout to a state where most of it is done, and it is all useable, is that the little things that are needed to finish it don't get done because you start playing trains with it. I do, anyway. I had another running and photo session. The NCBOE bought a loco, second hand, from Charlie Strong. Thomas Hill 'Vanguard' diesel-hydraulic rebuild of a Sentinel vertical-boilered steam loco (RT Models kit). 36 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 15 hours ago, Ruston said: Thanks! The trouble with getting a layout to a state where most of it is done, and it is all useable, is that the little things that are needed to finish it don't get done because you start playing trains with it. I do, anyway. I'm still at that stage after 25 years! Looking fantastic, especially that last pic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted March 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5 19 hours ago, Ruston said: Thanks! The trouble with getting a layout to a state where most of it is done, and it is all useable, is that the little things that are needed to finish it don't get done because you start playing trains with it. I do, anyway. I had another running and photo session. The NCBOE bought a loco, second hand, from Charlie Strong. Thomas Hill 'Vanguard' diesel-hydraulic rebuild of a Sentinel vertical-boilered steam loco (RT Models kit). Now I do like that !! Super looking little loco. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted March 17 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 17 A rarely photographed view of the weighbridge. Rare because I can't get the proper camera in here and need the rubbish phone camera for this. And a new/not new loco. I've had this one for quite a while now but this is the first time it's run on BL. It's a Hattons Barclay with deep buffer beams and "Workington Steelworks" buffers, from RT Models. It's based on a prototype that was bought second hand by the NCB and worked at Hartley Bank colliery, which was about half a mile away from British Oak, as the crow flies, although the two places were separated by several miles by rail. Hartley bank also had a staithe on the Calder & Hebble and the line there also passed under the Midland line on another viaduct. Picture from a local newspaper cutting. The Barclay is on the left. I have found video of the Barclay, which clearly shows the workington buffers but as I don't know what colour the loco was painted I simply left it red. 24 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 17/03/2024 at 16:42, Ruston said: A rarely photographed view of the weighbridge. Rare because I can't get the proper camera in here and need the rubbish phone camera for this. And a new/not new loco. I've had this one for quite a while now but this is the first time it's run on BL. It's a Hattons Barclay with deep buffer beams and "Workington Steelworks" buffers, from RT Models. It's based on a prototype that was bought second hand by the NCB and worked at Hartley Bank colliery, which was about half a mile away from British Oak, as the crow flies, although the two places were separated by several miles by rail. Hartley bank also had a staithe on the Calder & Hebble and the line there also passed under the Midland line on another viaduct. Picture from a local newspaper cutting. The Barclay is on the left. I have found video of the Barclay, which clearly shows the workington buffers but as I don't know what colour the loco was painted I simply left it red. That's all very poetic for the Wakey Express! Where was the Hartley Bank staithe situated? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted March 20 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20 22 minutes ago, 5050 said: That's all very poetic for the Wakey Express! Where was the Hartley Bank staithe situated? 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted March 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, Ruston said: Somewhere on (I think) youtube, is a video that someone took of one of the train simulator programs that had been set up as a model of Hartley Bank, showing the trains running backwards and forwards from the colliery to the exchange siding (just off the top of the screen shot). Adrian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Thanks Dave. I've cycled along the old embankment many times, down onto the towpath and up Balk Lane but not realised that the staithes were opposite. No trace of them now of course - or any photos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted March 23 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, 5050 said: Thanks Dave. I've cycled along the old embankment many times, down onto the towpath and up Balk Lane but not realised that the staithes were opposite. No trace of them now of course - or any photos? The only trace of the Hartley Bank staithe is a section of brick wall. Or is the wall part of the bridge abutment? I can't remember now. It's been a few years since I walked down there. I have seen a couple of photos of it from the canal side. One is in a publication about barges and the other is on the Horbury and Sitlington history Facebook group. It was inside a wooden building, much like how the original British Oak staithe was, and would have handled end-tipping wagons. This Flickr shot, taken by Andrew Bell in 1966, shows Standback No.3 at Hartley Bank, with the staithe building in the background. 16 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted April 1 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 1 Scott came to visit on Saturday and we had a proper play with the trainset. Some of the big stuff came out, too. 33 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted April 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 28 Things have slowed down with Blacker Lane as there isn't much left to do but I had a couple of friends over, last weekend, for a session. I have also added a Manning Wardle to the locomotive fleet and now some more internal users for the landsales train. 36 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-R Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Ruston I have enjoyed reading and looking at the pictures of your Blacker Lane D.P. layout build. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted April 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 30 I came across these images yesterday: https://www.2d53.co.uk/Yorkshire/British Oak.htm Love the layout btw. cheers, Keith 6 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted May 1 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1 12 hours ago, tractionman said: I came across these images yesterday: https://www.2d53.co.uk/Yorkshire/British Oak.htm Love the layout btw. cheers, Keith Thanks for that Keith, I don't think that I've seen that piece before even though I've trawled the 'net' on many occasions looking for information about this site. As ever it shows what a great piece of modelling Dave has done with his layout as you compare Dave's layout pictures with the ones in this article. Regards, Ian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Ruston Posted June 8 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 8 (edited) Scott came over for a play with the trainset, today. I've had the sound gear for the 88DS for weeks but hadn't got around to fitting it until this morning, so we used the 88DS and the Class 11. Amazingly, the Parkside 21-ton hoppers, behaved themselves without a single derailment. Edited June 8 by Ruston 25 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 08/06/2024 at 19:49, Ruston said: Amazingly, the Parkside 21-ton hoppers, behaved themselves without a single derailment. I'm half way through building my first. Is there something I should know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted June 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10 5 hours ago, mike morley said: I'm half way through building my first. Is there something I should know? Parkside assumed that you have a minimum of three hands! 😄 CJI. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Ah! That's why the actual hopper (the only bit I've actually done) has some unconventional interpretations on the subject of 'square' when it comes to the corners. My tube of Squadron Green's dried up, too. Thanks for the warning! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted June 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, mike morley said: Ah! That's why the actual hopper (the only bit I've actually done) has some unconventional interpretations on the subject of 'square' when it comes to the corners. My tube of Squadron Green's dried up, too. Thanks for the warning! One word - Milliput ! (Fine White for preference). CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ruston Posted June 10 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10 8 hours ago, mike morley said: I'm half way through building my first. Is there something I should know? I find it almost impossible to get one to remain all square. I can build the underframe so that all wheels sit on a perfectly flat surface but by the time the body has been built in, or fitted as one assembly, the damn things always get a slight twist in them and they only have 3 wheels touching the rail tops. They're a right faff to get to sit on all 4 once they're built and my trackwork doesn't help either. Roll on the Accurascale RTR version! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted June 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 10 3 hours ago, Ruston said: I find it almost impossible to get one to remain all square. I can build the underframe so that all wheels sit on a perfectly flat surface but by the time the body has been built in, or fitted as one assembly, the damn things always get a slight twist in them and they only have 3 wheels touching the rail tops. They're a right faff to get to sit on all 4 once they're built and my trackwork doesn't help either. Roll on the Accurascale RTR version! If I had to build any more of these kits, (and I'm in no hurry!), I would build a jig of a flat plate, with a rectangle of strip whose inner dimensions matched the rim of the hopper. Brass would be ideal, but wood would work. The hopper could then be assembled within this frame, keeping it square and true. Again, the chassis would be assembled separately, keeping it square and true also. The most difficult bit was, and would still be, assembly of the two sub-assemblies! Force is NOT required - warping and twisting would inevitably result. Personally, I would NOT use solvent adhesive to combine the hopper and chassis; the softening could undo the care put into keeping the two parts square. A little filing to achieve best fit, then lock together with a minimum of cyanoacetate glue. Just my two penn'orth! CJI. 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 10/06/2024 at 19:07, cctransuk said: If I had to build any more of these kits, (and I'm in no hurry!), I would build a jig of a flat plate, with a rectangle of strip whose inner dimensions matched the rim of the hopper. Brass would be ideal, but wood would work. The hopper could then be assembled within this frame, keeping it square and true. Again, the chassis would be assembled separately, keeping it square and true also. The most difficult bit was, and would still be, assembly of the two sub-assemblies! Force is NOT required - warping and twisting would inevitably result. Personally, I would NOT use solvent adhesive to combine the hopper and chassis; the softening could undo the care put into keeping the two parts square. A little filing to achieve best fit, then lock together with a minimum of cyanoacetate glue. Just my two penn'orth! CJI. Fit compensation and you don’t need to get the body square! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted June 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16 Just now, ian@stenochs said: Fit compensation and you don’t need to get the body square! I've tried wobbly wheels on wagons - no perceptible improvement; (not that I have any problems with rigid chassis). Besides, square-built wagons just LOOK better. CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, cctransuk said: I've tried wobbly wheels on wagons - no perceptible improvement; (not that I have any problems with rigid chassis). Besides, square-built wagons just LOOK better. CJI. There is only one square condition and an infinite number of not square varying from a tad to a real twist. Building a wagon which is exactly square is extremely difficult especially if one is using solvents which effectively join by dissolving the material being joined. A wagon can be square but gradually warp as solvent evaporates or atmospheric conditions change. Compensated wheelsets automatically adjust so that no matter what the body does the wheels will still all touch the rail. Rigid vehicles do not run as well as compensated, or even better live sprung, ones do. Way back in 1998, Peter Kirmond described experiments, published in MRJ 101 & 104, with wagon suspension. The results reported that wagons with fixed/rigid axleboxes performed poorly, 3 point suspension were considerably more reliable but fully sprung, like the prototype, were almost 100% reliable. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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