RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 24, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, newbryford said: From a railway source. Top end of S&C closed until 4 Nov at the earliest. In that case surely the Newcastle & Carlisle as well? At Petteril bridge they are one and the same. (Unless there is to be single line working before then on the N&C?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 24, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, melmerby said: In that case surely the Newcastle & Carlisle as well? At Petteril bridge they are one and the same. (Unless there is to be single line working before then on the N&C?) That's all I was told as my gen "area" covers the southern end of the S&C. No idea about the N&C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2022 60087 is heading north LE to Petteril Bridge via the S&C 0Z60 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:91190/2022-10-27/detailed And returning south to Clitheroe Cement works - as 6Z60 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:91199/2022-10-27/detailed Presumably with the wagons from the southern side of the derailment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 27/10/2022 at 15:37, newbryford said: 60087 is heading north LE to Petteril Bridge via the S&C 0Z60 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:91190/2022-10-27/detailed And returning south to Clitheroe Cement works - as 6Z60 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:91199/2022-10-27/detailed Presumably with the wagons from the southern side of the derailment. 60087 didn't return south the same day, but has done so today 31/10/22. (Also posted in 60 thread) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 There aren't many recovered tanks there. On the national rail website the date for the line re-opening seems to be a (very) movable feast. Recently it was saying next Monday but now is saying closed until further notice as they do not have 'a robust estimate' for the line to reopen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, BoD said: There aren't many recovered tanks there. That would be because the derailment happened towards the rear of the train. The front of the train has been moved away into Carlisle - the wagons you see are the rearmost ones which, after re-railing were fit to be extracted southwards. The rest of the wagons are down the bank / in the river and will need to be extracted by mobile crane (once they can find firm enough ground to erect it on). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, phil-b259 said: The rest of the wagons are down the bank / in the river and will need to be extracted by mobile crane (once they can find firm enough ground to erect it on). Well if they need to provide a firm sub structure, they have two of the materials on site now, just need to add sand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2022 The front 7 wagons had already left the crash site north to kingmoor earlier in the week, as Phil says the other 3 are still off the rails and these 2 are the unaffected rear wagons , i believe they we’re jacked over from the down line to the up by the DB re-railing team using jacks, that I would have love to have seen! I suspect the wagons that are still off the tracks are unlikely to see rails again, most likely removed by road, certainly the one upside down in the river Selfishly I am slightly gutted I’ve got the jobs I have this week as that move back to clitheroe was uncovered yesterday, I offered to do it but it would have messed up the rest of my weeks work! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Well if they need to provide a firm sub structure, they have two of the materials on site now, just need to add sand... I'm sure B&Q can help with your request ....... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 1, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2022 20 hours ago, phil-b259 said: That would be because the derailment happened towards the rear of the train. The front of the train has been moved away into Carlisle - the wagons you see are the rearmost ones which, after re-railing were fit to be extracted southwards. The rest of the wagons are down the bank / in the river and will need to be extracted by mobile crane (once they can find firm enough ground to erect it on). I've seen a distant image of the site, showing two wagons on the up side. Supposedly being used to take the cement that is being pumped out of the two in the river 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2022 I was under the impression the 2 on the upside in those pics were the 2 that were slid over from the rear of the train and the cement was being pumped into a road tanker at the back of B&Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Probably makes more sense than taking it back where it came from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 As it's gone a bit quiet , here's a few pic's taken 55 years ago from the Cumbrian Railways Association Library of the scene of the accident . . 1) Petteril Bridge junction Signal Box Aug 67 - B&Q is now on the site of the buildings to the right of the Box , the railings lead up to the start of the Bridge . https://cumbrianrailways.zenfolio.com/p434662995/h27610BF3#h3237b0c3 2) Petteril Bridge junction Signal Box Aug 67 - To the left of the box is the site of the Midland goods sheds , later BRS with the Green parcel vans , the remains of the foundations for the bridge crossing the river to the goods shed are still visible when you walk along the river bank on the north side. https://cumbrianrailways.zenfolio.com/p434662995/h27610BF3#h323d94dc https://www.flickr.com/photos/beerdave1745/24170527177 3) Petteril Bridge junction Signal Box 67 with BR Blue Class 11 shunter 12064 . https://cumbrianrailways.zenfolio.com/p434662995/h27610BF3#h2ba0e717 Hope these are of interest , as a kid I used to sneak onto the remains of the goods yards here & at Upperby across London Road. The Cumbrian Railways Association site is well worth a visit . Stewart . 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 A Huge Crane is now on site ready for lifting ,it looks to be placed on the site of the old British Fuels coal depot where my Dad used to work in the 70's on the thing he called the Ostrich, I hope it's still standing in the morning as it's rather windy up here . I came across this 1912 track plan of the area this evening , it covers Durranhill sidings to Petteril Bridge junction - https://scrca.foscl.org.uk/sites/2/files/imce/img/land-plans/sac-97-1912.jpg P.S My place of work is behind Petteril Terrace near the site of the old turntable . Stewart . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2022 Ta to Jack374 for the link. https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/drone-shots-reveal-800-tonne-crane-set-to-lift-derailed-freight-wagons 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Hmmmm ......... a very pricey exercise .... I'd have thought it more cost effective to take the wagons out in pieces and have replacements built ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Hmmmm ......... a very pricey exercise .... I'd have thought it more cost effective to take the wagons out in pieces and have replacements built ! Gearing up for production of 3-5 wagons may be more costly. Someone will probably have done the maths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, newbryford said: Ta to Jack374 for the link. https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/drone-shots-reveal-800-tonne-crane-set-to-lift-derailed-freight-wagons A nice touch using cement from the wagons. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, newbryford said: Ta to Jack374 for the link. https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/drone-shots-reveal-800-tonne-crane-set-to-lift-derailed-freight-wagons It looks like there might be some damage to the bridge (apart from the parapet) with the gap opened up by the sideways shift of the track? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Durranhill said: A Huge Crane is now on site ready for lifting ,it looks to be placed on the site of the old British Fuels coal depot where my Dad used to work in the 70's on the thing he called the Ostrich, I hope it's still standing in the morning as it's rather windy up here . I came across this 1912 track plan of the area this evening , it covers Durranhill sidings to Petteril Bridge junction - https://scrca.foscl.org.uk/sites/2/files/imce/img/land-plans/sac-97-1912.jpg P.S My place of work is behind Petteril Terrace near the site of the old turntable . Stewart . I walked from Petteril Terrace to Durranhill shed along the footpath from there many times in the the 1950s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2022 17 hours ago, newbryford said: Gearing up for production of 3-5 wagons may be more costly. Someone will probably have done the maths. The decision will rest with the insurance loss adjuster I presume. And he'll recommend the cheapest😇 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: The decision will rest with the insurance loss adjuster I presume. And he'll recommend the cheapest😇 But will it effect the no claims bonus? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, newbryford said: But will it effect the no claims bonus? I bet it would if the don't have a protected No Claims Bonus😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 18 hours ago, newbryford said: Gearing up for production of 3-5 wagons may be more costly. Someone will probably have done the maths. Have Hattons got any in stock ? Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, APOLLO said: Have Hattons got any in stock ? Brit15 If they did they would probably be in worse condition than the wagons in the river but have a ‘good box’ and cost more than a new one! 1 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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