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Hi All,

Here’s a question which I know is going to be subjective, but…….

What is the best Hornby Flying Scotsman.

My particular brief is as follows:

 

1, In BR Brunswick Green.

2, Era 8 or 9.

3, With German smoke deflectors.

4, Loco drive.

5, ‘Full fat’ version (not Railroad).

 

Looking forward to your feedback.

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On 26/09/2022 at 09:43, rogerzilla said:

Have they ever made a decent LNER apple green A3 version without smoke deflectors?  It was only like that during 1947.

 

It was numbered 103 though, so I don't think they've done one in that condition.

 

Wartime black from 4/1943

Renumbered 502 in 1/1946.

Then renumbered 103 on 5/5/1946.

Rebuilt to an A3 and painted green 4/1/1947

Renumbered E103 in 3/1948

 

https://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=600112003&loco=1472

 

 

Jason

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On 25/09/2022 at 11:56, CB Rail said:

Hi All,

Here’s a question which I know is going to be subjective, but…….

What is the best Hornby Flying Scotsman.

My particular brief is as follows:

 

1, In BR Brunswick Green.

2, Era 8 or 9.

3, With German smoke deflectors.

4, Loco drive.

5, ‘Full fat’ version (not Railroad).

 

Looking forward to your feedback.

 

I would wait until they inevitable release one using the new tooling. Probably in the next announcement in January.

 

Or as another NRM exclusive.

 

 

Jason

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2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

It was numbered 103 though, so I don't think they've done one in that condition.

 

Wartime black from 4/1943

Renumbered 502 in 1/1946.

Then renumbered 103 on 5/5/1946.

Rebuilt to an A3 and painted green 4/1/1947

Renumbered E103 in 3/1948

 

https://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=S&id=600112003&loco=1472

 

 

Jason

It looks as if it may not have had a banjo dome until it was in BR livery.  I think the problem with FS is that the Pegler-era version is the most remembered, and that was a mongrel.  4472, A3, banjo dome, LNER apple green, but those odd red nameplates.

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4 hours ago, rogerzilla said:

It looks as if it may not have had a banjo dome until it was in BR livery.  I think the problem with FS is that the Pegler-era version is the most remembered, and that was a mongrel.  4472, A3, banjo dome, LNER apple green, but those odd red nameplates.

 

It's how it was when I was growing up - so "wrong but right" for me. Can't stand it in BR green with elephan ears.

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I adore my NRM late 2000's Scotsman, R2441. The combination of LNER Apple green and Modern features like the smoke deflectors, double chimney, and overhead warning signs really does it for me. Definitely deserves to get better photos. 

 

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10 hours ago, Bucoops said:

 

It's how it was when I was growing up - so "wrong but right" for me. Can't stand it in BR green with elephan ears.

^ I agree with this. It's all a matter of perspective though.

 

Being born in 1991 my first impression of f.s was as 4472, LNER apple green and that will always be its 'correct' livery for me. Much the same as Mallard (4468 LNER garter blue) - anything else to me would just be wrong!

 

Back on topic:

 

On 25/09/2022 at 11:56, CB Rail said:

Hi All,

Here’s a question which I know is going to be subjective, but…….

What is the best Hornby Flying Scotsman.

My particular brief is as follows:

 

1, In BR Brunswick Green.

2, Era 8 or 9.

3, With German smoke deflectors.

4, Loco drive.

5, ‘Full fat’ version (not Railroad).

 

Looking forward to your feedback.

My suggestions for your brief would be:

 

R3202 (NRM weathered version)

 

or

 

R3503 (NRM locomotion version)

 

I do not own either so can't comment on detail etc but I'd say they both look the part.

hornby-r3202-r-60103-a3-flying_360_0d67bace69398082766852717d0ffda9.jpg

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5 hours ago, CB Rail said:

Hi All,

Regarding K Hatton post above & the NRM FS with support coach (R3503).

FS is in a ‘gloss’ finish (which received mixed reviews if I recall correctly).

What time line is this supposed to represent?

Thanks in advance.

A5E3501B-2014-450A-A904-06CB6667F213.jpeg

 

From 2016 to its current overhaul in 2022. I have no idea whether it exactly matches the same livery as previously carried as things like warning patches do change over time.

 

https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/60103-flying-scotsman-gner-1472-lner-1472-lner-4472-lner-503-lner-103-br-e103-br-60103/

 

I assume it will emerge from the overhaul in the same livery.

 

 

Jason

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Not sure if I have a full list here but let’s see haha


Service Life

L&NER 1472 Green

LNER 4472 Green

LNER 4472 Black (NE maybe?)

LNER 502 Green

LNER 103 Green

BR 60103 Blue

BR 60103 Early Green

BR 60103 Late Green

 

Preserved Life

LNER 4472 Green Pegler Red Nameplates

LNER 4472 Green Pegler Twin Tenders

LNER 4472 Green Blue Grey 2nd Tender

LNER 4472 Green McAlpine Era

BR 60103 Green

LNER 4472 Green Marchington Era

BR 502/103 Black

BR 60103 Green 


Have I missed any?

 

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Not sure if I have a full list here but let’s see haha


Service Life

L&NER 1472 Green

LNER 4472 Green

LNER 4472 Black (NE maybe?)

LNER 502 Green

LNER 103 Green

BR 60103 Blue

BR 60103 Early Green

BR 60103 Late Green

 

Preserved Life

LNER 4472 Green Pegler Red Nameplates

LNER 4472 Green Pegler Twin Tenders

LNER 4472 Green Blue Grey 2nd Tender

BR 60103 Green

LNER 4472 Green Marchington Era

BR 502/103 Black

BR 60103 Green 


Have I missed any?

 

 

Between LNER 4472 Green Blue Grey 2nd Tender and BR 60103 Green, you should probably include McAlpine LNER 4472 Green.

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5 hours ago, Hilux5972 said:

Not sure if I have a full list here but let’s see haha


Service Life

L&NER 1472 Green

LNER 4472 Green

LNER 4472 Black (NE maybe?)

LNER 502 Green

LNER 103 Green

BR 60103 Blue

BR 60103 Early Green

BR 60103 Late Green

 

Preserved Life

LNER 4472 Green Pegler Red Nameplates

LNER 4472 Green Pegler Twin Tenders

LNER 4472 Green Blue Grey 2nd Tender

BR 60103 Green

LNER 4472 Green Marchington Era

BR 502/103 Black

BR 60103 Green 


Have I missed any?

 

In LNER days she started with a GNR coal rail tender as 1472, then 4472, LNER with corridor tender then another GN  followed by the streamlined non corridor she kept till withdrawal. 

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22 minutes ago, Tiddles47 said:

In LNER days she started with a GNR coal rail tender as 1472, then 4472, LNER with corridor tender then another GN  followed by the streamlined non corridor she kept till withdrawal. 

Thanks. I wasn’t sure about the tenders so just stuck to liveries. 

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My prefered one is R3637, I really lookes the part, with the GN-tender with the number on it. Unfortunately, the running plate is of the 'wavy navy' type. So I passed on it. Hope they make it with the new metal one some day 

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