The Wagon Repair Shop

[Darius43]

My friend acquired these wagon parts in a box of assorted model railway bits given to him by a neighbour.

 

 

The PO wagons are by Peco with a metal chassis and cardboard sides.

 

 

 

The red box van bodies are ex Hornby Dublo breakdown train tool vans I think.

 

 

There is also a white metal six wheeled van built from a kit with a wooden chassis base.

 

 

Finally there is a metal mineral truck body.

 

 

The plan is to refurb/repaint/paint these wagons with new metal wheels and couplings and get them running on the layout.

 

To that end I have obtained a few of these:-

 

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[Darius43]

Peco wagons given new metal wheels and couplings and a new “wooden” floor using scored cardboard.  Interior and paper edges painted brown.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[Darius43]

New Peco “wonderful wagon” chassis assembled and fixed to the metal mineral truck body, followed by some weathering.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers

 

Darius

Edited August 31, 2022 by Darius43

[ess1uk]

Nice work 

[Darius43]

Ex Dublo Van bodies refurbished with new Peco chassis, a lick of paint, new metal wheels and couplings, new decals and some light weathering.

 

 

 

 

 

The third van body was converted into “grounded” form.

 

 

 

Some more distress/weathering needed, I think.

Cheers

 

Darius

[John Isherwood]

25 minutes ago, Darius43 said:

Ex Dublo Van bodies refurbished with new Peco chassis, a lick of paint, new metal wheels and couplings, new decals and some light weathering.

 

 

 

 

 

The third van body was converted into “grounded” form.

 

 

 

Some more distress/weathering needed, I think.

Cheers

 

Darius

 

You will not thank me for pointing this out, but .... it was extremely unusual for the load / number to have a black background on a bauxite, fitted wagon.

 

I know that the HD body has a moulded panel for the load / number, but this is easily carved away.

 

The P-prefixed numbers are also an anachronism on BR-built wagons.

 

CJI.

[Darius43]

Yet somehow I don’t care.  Plus some of the numbers are different on either side of each wagon.

 

This was just a fun project restoring the contents of someone’s box of junk back into service rather than an exercise in prototypical accuracy.

 

The wagon repair shop thanks you for your input.
 

Cheers

 

Darius

[John Isherwood]

1 hour ago, Darius43 said:

Yet somehow I don’t care.  Plus some of the numbers are different on either side of each wagon.

 

This was just a fun project restoring the contents of someone’s box of junk back into service rather than an exercise in prototypical accuracy.

 

The wagon repair shop thanks you for your input.
 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

You are very welcome - I will make a point in future of ignoring departures from prototype in your postings.

 

CJI.

[Darius43]

My Dear John, the absence of your charmless and humourless posts would be a welcome relief to many I am sure.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[Halvarras]

2 hours ago, Darius43 said:

Ex Dublo Van bodies refurbished with new Peco chassis, a lick of paint, new metal wheels and couplings, new decals and some light weathering.

 

 

 

 

 

The third van body was converted into “grounded” form.

 

 

 

Some more distress/weathering needed, I think.

Cheers

 

Darius

 

Peco chassis, I'd forgotten all about those! Great result. I noticed the numbering and guessed that you were using up some spare transfers, on the grounds that any numbers were better than none. We all accumulate part-used transfer sheets, I have a box file full of them - whether I use them at random or purchase yet more depends on the importance of the project in hand, but I do try to get them right(ish) with what I have if I can.

These van bodies were decent mouldings (a pity about the roof ribs though), I have five obtained as unpainted Wrenn mouldings for a pound each ages ago, four went on Bachmann chassis which I handpainted with Humbrol 133 satin brown I think, two coats went on so well you'd think they'd been sprayed. Why can't enamel paint be that good any more? The fifth body has too many broken stanchions but you've suggested the obvious solution for that one 🙂

I have another done some years before these and modified as an insulated van in white, with the end vents carved away and the ribs reinstated with plastic rod scraped flat - it looks fine and is one of those projects I doubt I could get right if I ever tried it again.....!

Always nice to see old stuff getting a new lease of life, keep up the good work!

[John Isherwood]

3 hours ago, Darius43 said:

My Dear John, the absence of your charmless and humourless posts would be a welcome relief to many I am sure.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

Oh, don't worry I will continue to post in every thread other than yours, when I feel that I can make useful comment.

 

Funnily enough, many posters express their appreciation of my input. I must be doing something right .....

 

CJI.

[Darius43]

Mr Isherwood ladies and gentlemen. I’m sure he’ll be back.
 

Meanwhile back on the workbench, I think that this may be an old K’s white metal kit of a GWR Siphon O2.

 

 

 

 

Its going to be “interesting” fitting wheels to this one given that the chassis is pretty well glued together by the original builder.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[phil_sutters]

17 minutes ago, Darius43 said:

Mr Isherwood ladies and gentlemen. I’m sure he’ll be back.
 

Meanwhile back on the workbench, I think that this may be an old K’s white metal kit of a GWR Siphon O2.

 

 

 

 

Its going to be “interesting” fitting wheels to this one given that the chassis is pretty well glued together by the original builder.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

If the axles are the right length, what about grinding out the bottoms of the axle boxes on one side, fitting the bearings into the other side - offer up the axles with the wheels in place  and then, with a bearing on other other end of the axle, slide that into the axle box and fill the gap to hold the bearing in place. That is unless you are going for a nice brass compensated chassis. As I remember those old K's kits you might even find you can bend the axle box W frame units outwards to pop the axles in. With an old white metal model that might be risky.

I had one of their GWR six-wheeled coaches. I had to make the centre wheels flangeless to stop it rocking about and derailing on points. It was so heavy that it always had to be next to the engine, or it pulled everything else off the track on corners.

Best of luck with this one!

Edited September 1, 2022 by phil_sutters

[Darius43]

Thanks Phil, that sounds like a good idea.  I had thought about bending the w-irons out to fit the wheels and then pushing then back, but, as you say that could be a risky procedure.

 

Thinking about a floating centre wheel but there may not be enough sideplay for it to go around curves smoothly.  The flangeless centre wheel option may be the best way forward.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[AY Mod]

1 hour ago, cctransuk said:

Funnily enough, many posters express their appreciation of my input. I must be doing something right

 

For editorial balance you do get on numerous members ***s too.

[Enterprisingwestern]

6 hours ago, cctransuk said:

it was extremely unusual for the load / number to have a black background on a bauxite, fitted wagon.

 

But not unknown, I've seen a few pics here and there John.

 

Mike.

[Enterprisingwestern]

10 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

For editorial balance you do get on numerous members ***s too.

 

Don't we all?

 

Mike.

[John Isherwood]

17 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

For editorial balance you do get on numerous members ***s too.

 

Oh good - I'm doing something right, then.

 

I learned many years ago that, if you don't rub up certain people the wrong way, they get away with saying / posting all sorts of misinformation!

 

I've said several times before that I have no interest in platitudes - I say it as I see it!

 

CJI.

[John Isherwood]

15 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

But not unknown, I've seen a few pics here and there John.

 

Mike.

 

Agreed, but I think that you'd agree that it was "extremely unusual".

 

John Isherwood.

[AY Mod]

3 minutes ago, cctransuk said:

Oh good - I'm doing something right, then.

 

YMMV.

[Darius43]

At times like this I wonder “what would Jay Blades do?”

 

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[Darius43]

Can anyone identify this wagon type?

 

 

 

Getting down to the last few bits in the box.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[micklner]

LNER Post war Steel 13 Ton with internal lashing rings  . Bachmann did a r.t.r version.

 

Before Mr Isherwood says anything !!!😃🙃😋

Edited September 1, 2022 by micklner

[Steamport Southport]

Parkside also do a kit.

 

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/parkside-pc01-lner-all-steel-open-wagon-kit

 

 

So if you are sticking with the PECO parts you need a Parkside LNER 10ft vacuum fitted chassis and it should be bauxite. I don't think any were unfitted.

 

https://peco-uk.com/products/lner-10-foot-chassis-kit-vacuum-fitted-with-clasp-brake-shoes?_pos=31&_sid=07d24ad92&_ss=r

 

 

Jason

[micklner]

http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/10069.htm

 

Both unfitted and Vac versions were built . Bachmann have done both versions.

 

edit

 

Thank you Mr isherwood !!! whoops lower case "I" 🤣

 

Edited September 1, 2022 by micklner