RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted April 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, JimC said: Also begs the question of whether it would be advisable to recreate something that was demonstrably not that great in the first place. Fair point, but you wouldn't have to make it a carbon copy-I'm sure a conventional firebox could be used without massively changing the look of the original. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, JimC said: Also begs the question of whether it would be advisable to recreate something that was demonstrably not that great in the first place. Not that great, in the bottom 1%. They probably never sorted it and scrapped it as soon as they possibly could. A replica could probably be made using a Narrow gauge loco boiler but its a bad design, most 0-4-0T locos have the firebox behind, not above, the rear axle, I suspect 101 was designed for speeds greater than the usual 30mph terrifyingly unstable max of most 0-4-0s which in itself is why so many industrial 0-4-0s are out of use. They are unpleasant to ride on at Light railway speeds and lack power. Like the railmotors they can manage the off peak trains which aren't really worth running, but can't manage the weekend trains which make money. Enter the 14XX. Enough power for 150 tons or 5 mk 1s, and as economical on one coach as an 0-4-0 (or railmotor) 101 was a flawed example of a flawed design. Mind you a diesel powered replica might be a different kettle of pollock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2022 The Hornby chassis used in 101 is also under several other prototype based locos. All the bodies seem to be based on reality, the chassis is just something cheap to make them go 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2022 Hornby: Reality: 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2022 A shame. perhaps, that H have never produced this loco as Queen Mary in this livery, alsways having used it as a generic starter set 0-4-0 in all sorts of liveries; I suspect some of the liveries never existed, never mind not having been ever applied to a Dowlais. I can see why they chose this fairly obscure prototype, though, it's an 0-4-0 without delicate outside motion and therefore pretty robust and easy for a typical child starter layour owner to re-rail, but looks like a bigger tank engine, with the Belpaire and the small cab cutout enhancing the apparent size. Not particularly difficult to work up, the main problem being the boiler washout plugs, but the scarcity of worked up models is no doubt a reflection of the prototype's 'niche' appeal. TTBOMK nobody's ever taken on Dowlais steelworks as a layout, though it was a fascinating place and well worth modelling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 21, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2022 I was shocked to see that the basic 0-4-0T now has a RRP of £50.99! I got a 101 in Southern livery from the Hornby stand at Warley 4 or 5 years ago for £5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 They have produced it as Queen Mary, but whether the livery is the same I don't know. If so it is simplified. The nameplate is the same shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 23, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2022 I stand corrected, then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, The Johnster said: I stand corrected, then! Said the man in the orthopaedic shoes! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co-tr-Paul Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 The Hornby 101 was introduced in 1978 and currently runs to 38 livery variations publicly released not including different running numbers, catalogue numbers or paint finishes. Plus one special publicity model. Did once collect them all but then sold the lot. Fun ...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 02:38, The Johnster said: The prototype had outside Joy valve gear which is not represented on the Hornby model. AFAIK nobody else has ever produced this loco in RTR or kit form. It was copied by a far Eastern cloning factory to be the loco in a cheap train set. The body was scaled up to O gauge and the gauge by the same amount, making it a useless 29mm or so. It is battery powered, the on/off switch being the chimney cap, and it has a headlight. This set had a couple of V tipping wagons, the other had a green loco and a US style stock car. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, 298 said: It was copied by a far Eastern cloning factory to be the loco in a cheap train set. The body was scaled up to O gauge and the gauge by the same amount, making it a useless 29mm or so. It is battery powered, the on/off switch being the chimney cap, and it has a headlight. This set had a couple of V tipping wagons, the other had a green loco and a US style stock car. Wow, that's great and cheapo! Surely the wheels can be each pushed out a mil and a bit to make it usable? Or, failing that, replace the axles with some hard wire to correct gauge? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 That would certainly make an interesting shelf project! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 02:17, Halvarras said: PS then there's the 'Tolgus Tin Redruth' version - odd livery but desirable as I was born there - 'Truro' may yet get a shelf buddy 😀 I was thinking this may take a couple of years, maybe longer - if ever. Not a couple of weeks! But a near mint one came up at a price I couldn't ignore, so.... 'Truro', meet your new shelf buddy! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted May 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2022 I'm thinking is about time someone produced a detailing kit for these models, something to turn it into a more accurate representation of the original, at least below the running plate. Whatever it's shortcomings, it's an attractive little engine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 7, 2022 A job for one of our 3D print designers, perhaps. Proper motion and brake detail would certainly lift it a bit! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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