RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted July 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18 5 hours ago, Nova Scotian said: I think we should be more careful in what we say about that eBay example. The owner/vendor may well be on there and that'd be really hurtful to see Agree - also agree with the other comment that said that weathering is subjective. Comparing the ebay images with examples in Terry Dorritys 'British Industrial Steam' and to my eye its not a bad job - certainly not bad enough to justify some of the comments made here. Someone will buy it and love it, each to their own, live and let live etc And for removal of any doubt I have no connection at all with the vendor! 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I'm inclined to agree, the weathering is heavy, but I've seen far worse. The photos seem a little contrasty too, which probably over-emphasises the effect. Sit it in a suitable industrial scene, and I think it will look fine. Ultimately though, it's a mass-produced model, not some rare antiquity. If it has sold well, there will be others along in the future. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Reminds me of the scrap awaiting restoration at the Tanfield. Depending how it had been applied it might easily be restored to something reasonable. I have found those white household cleaning eraser blocks to be of use on shifting poorly applied weathering. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted July 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18 (edited) On 14/07/2024 at 12:36, colin55 said: Do we know exactly which Zimo decoder is used ? Decoder pro came up with a wide selection and i just guessed a suitable model number when I reprogrammed it. Which CV can I alter to turn the volume down? The whistles are very loud compared to other sound locos I have. Just had the model open, and it looks like a Zimo MS581N18. This is not stated in any of the literature. I mistakenly bought a Staco 3A for stay alive as I expected a Zimo MS590N18 which is smaller. I will still be able use the small gold cap capacitors to increase duration. These will fit either side of the motor (under the PC board). Edit: What a great sound for a small speaker - the best RTR industrial loco produced - well done Dapol. Peformance is excellent. Tried out the 'real drive' which improves driving experience, but perhaps some other CVs need optimising as well. Edited July 18 by zr2498 Note on performance added. Should have been MS581N18 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterfgf Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 5 hours ago, zr2498 said: Just had the model open, and it looks like a Zimo MS580N18. This is not stated in any of the literature. I mistakenly bought a Staco 3A for stay alive as I expected a Zimo MS590N18 which is smaller. I will still be able use the small gold cap capacitors to increase duration. These will fit either side of the motor (under the PC board). Edit: What a great sound for a small speaker - the best RTR industrial loco produced - well done Dapol. Peformance is excellent. Tried out the 'real drive' which improves driving experience, but perhaps some other CVs need optimising as well. I think it's a Zimo MS581N18, see https://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Detail.php?L1=Detail&Item=MS581 Thanks, you've saved me having to open it up. Nowhere do Dapol say what decoder is fitted. Peterfg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Short video clip of my Wearmouth Number 8 pulling a rake of heavy mineral wagons on the Bingham Model railway Club layout "Wilford Road", It wasn't happy with some of the long dead frogs in the fiddle yard- the speed it is running is about the slowest it will run through these. As a result it went off to Digitrains yesterday to have a stay alive installed. It was accompanied by my factory sound fitted Rapido Hunslet "Jacks Green" for the same purpose- that one performs a deal less well than my identical "Ring Haw" which has a stay alive. I'm not convinced Railway Club members realise just how loudly they talk...... Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToledoRails Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 My Australian Iron & Steel Co. "Wallaby" arrived in the mail earlier this week and upon taking it out of the box, I noticed that the rear right hand side buffer was missing! Looks like it was attached at one point in the factory, but it wasn't even rattling around in the box. I've reached out to Dapol about a replacement part to fit it myself, the model is still stunning in every other way! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Only gone and ordered builders plates for a Barclay...... 😉 4 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mol_PMB Posted July 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20 11 minutes ago, kernowtim said: Only gone and ordered builders plates for a Barclay...... 😉 Now you need an H-L plate, and a Barclay loco, to complete the set. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Any one else had any problems with the magnets in the cab roof, came to removing the roof to look at the detail in the cab and noticed that one of the magnets in the roof section was missing, further investigation found it attached to the magnet in the cab wall. Erm now to fix it hopefully in roof panel on a permanent basis !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Will have to check on my 2 examples however Sam's trains youtube review reported the same issue with magnets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, kernowtim said: Will have to check on my 2 examples however Sam's trains youtube review reported the same issue with magnets. Using these magnets regularly on NO PLACE on the droppers of tension locks, it is an occupational hazard with them. For their size they are very strong. So far I've found the only glue that WILL keep them firmly in place is epoxy. However they are quite capable of moving while the epoxy cures. Superglue will hold them but eventually becomes brittle and gives. Using a secure push fit will have the same issue as superglue- the magnets will find the attraction of their partners becomes stronger than the friction holding them in place. With more manufacturers going to magnets for tank engine roofs it is something we will have to live with. Note. Before anyone says "MY (insert other make here) cab roof is firm and has shown no sign of magnets moving" I would say to add the word YET. Les 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PeterStiles Posted July 22 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22 7 hours ago, Les1952 said: magnets moving Well, if this is the only thing we've really got to whine about on this model, I think it'll have to end up being my Model Of The Year... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22 I think they're just fab. 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToledoRails Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PeterStiles said: Well, if this is the only thing we've really got to whine about on this model, I think it'll have to end up being my Model Of The Year... Agreed, even with the buffer issue they've been a treat to talk with over email and gave me a link to the correct red needed to repaint the buffer beam if there is still chip marks. It's hands down the best tank engine I own. Edited July 22 by ToledoRails 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, ToledoRails said: Agreed, even with the buffer issue they've been a treat to talk with over email and gave me a link to the correct red needed to repaint the buffer beam if there is still chip marks. It's hands down the best tank engine I own. 2 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: I think they're just fab. I'm a 009 modeller, but I've decided in the long term that I'd like to add a small standard gauge feeder to my 'planned for' layout. I've recently acquired half a dozen wagons and one of these beauties... Mr Wallaby to be precise. It's stunning. Absolutely stunning. The best loco I own too @ToledoRails (even of it is the only standard gauge one I own 😂). We don't know we're born with models of this quality. Well done Dapol 👍🏽 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin55 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Sorry for such a late reply. When I redid the profile on DecoderPro it immediately came up as MS581N18 ver.4 . I also thought there was a missing magnet on the cab roof! One magnet seems to be enough to keep the roof on. I presume the steam sounds are just a generic version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted July 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22 16 minutes ago, colin55 said: Sorry for such a late reply. When I redid the profile on DecoderPro it immediately came up as MS581N18 ver.4 . I also thought there was a missing magnet on the cab roof! One magnet seems to be enough to keep the roof on. I presume the steam sounds are just a generic version. I thinks its a recording from an HL - possibly the black one that was recently at WSR (Footplate special model) Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3nf Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) What a fantastic model and I'm normally not into the industrial scene. However, with all the praise I've seen, I couldn't resist 'Spider'. Great packaging with the clear plastic base enabling safe removal from and to the packaging without handling and potentially damaging some of the detail - great idea. Like others, however, on removing the roof, one of the holding magnets seemed to be absent and not in the packaging. I eventually twigged it was sitting on top of its opposite member- they do have a very strong attraction to each other. So, just touched a little UHU into its holding position and gently pushed it back into its place. Now all ok. Very pleased - well done Dapol! Edited July 24 by c3nf spelling mistake 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpplumy Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Well. I finally decided which to get. Though it was hard to find one ! So many stores sold out. This will most likely be looking it's no13 and becoming the JLL locomotive that was at scunthorpe 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) While I was away, Invincible finally arrived. Cracking looking model but not tried it yet (DCC sound fitted which I refuse to run under DCC). I chose this as she ran at Woolwich Arsenal from new in 1915, so can be - in a loose sense - tied in with the SECR (although maybe not the correct livery!). Now preserved on the Isle of Wight, so can run alongside my other preserved IOW locos. And as engines tend to visit other preserved lines, then a Bluebell tie in is not impossible.... That and the fact she is fully DCC sound! She is slightly bigger than Hornby's Peckett. The latter having more weight but space only for Hornby's plain 4 pin DCC chip. I wonder if Invincible was named after the battlecruiser of the same name? Edit: Have now run the model. Quite a delight but definitely needs a stay alive. Edited July 30 by JSpencer 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Invincible has visited the Bluebell railway in June 2002, it attended a Thomas event as a substitute for a failed "Percy". It was even in the red livery as modelled for this event. Pete 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 13 hours ago, JSpencer said: She is slightly bigger than Hornby's Peckett. The latter having more weight but space only for Hornby's plain 4 pin DCC chip. Remove the clunky non-standard 4 pin socket and theres a lot of room given also the "4 pin" decoder is a bodge of their cheap and nasty 8 pin, Really should have a 6 pin socket but then the red box lot do not have a 6 pin decoder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 hours ago, IWCR said: Invincible has visited the Bluebell railway in June 2002, it attended a Thomas event as a substitute for a failed "Percy". It was even in the red livery as modelled for this event. Pete Thanks for the tip. 😀 I could not find any info. Well chuffed as Thomas would say.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 45568 Posted July 29 Popular Post Share Posted July 29 (edited) A couple of images of my just-completed conversion of 'Henry' to the ex-S.H.T./GWR/BR 1144. The conversion was made a little easier by the fact that the model can be easily disassembled into workable subsections. However, the very hard material of the saddle tank casting caused some problems during filing and drilling, with high drill-bit attrition! I am very pleased with the overall result though. Finished using Tamiya spray cans for the black and varnish, with Vallejo acrylics for the minimal weathering. Transfers by Fox with plates etched to order by Narrow Planet well prior to the model release! Safety valve casting from Brian @ 247 developments and the bell is a Bachmann USA HO spares item. A shed plate (87D) is on order Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Edited July 29 by 45568 add text! 24 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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