RMweb Premium Pteremy Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2023 Mine has arrived. As well as the roof I have a slightly wonky footboard, but I am sure that will fettle back straighter. As for the roof mine was on the wrong way round when it arrived. In fitting it correctly the slight bend manifested itself. But I don't know whether the retaining magnets are at fault. TBH in doing the fitting it felt as if the roof was just a little too tight a fit. No doubt it will fettle right - I would prefer that to gluing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: Presumably there were lists but quite how they worked I don't know, I presume that they would (or should) have included the name of the Guard to whom the van was allocated) and his home station. Or were they organised by name (number within a list drawn up by home station, or were any lists of of Guards' b names purely a local thing? The 1920 Instruction implies that vans were allocated to stations and also notes that there were spare vans although I doubt if there was one of those at every location which had an allocation of brakevans. The principle of allocating the vams to individual Guards was long established. I have GWR written evidence that it definitely existed in 1920 and that suggests to me that it went back even further For those modellers who want AA20 lettering for different allocations, I have the following authentic sets for the AA20 brakevan :- Sheet BL166A - ABERAVON, ACTON Sheet BL166B - BIRKENHEAD, BORDESLEY JUNCTION, BRISTOL Sheet BL166D-G - DIDCOT, DOWLAIS CAE HARRIS Sheet BL166H-L - HARTLEBURY, HEREFORD BARTON, LLANIDLOES Sheet BL166M-O - No.8 TRANSFER, OSWESTRY, OXFORD Sheet BL166P-R - PARK ROYAL, PENZANCE, TO WORK BETWEEN PRINCES RISBOROUGH AND CHINNOR ONLY Sheet BL166S - SEVERN TUNNEL, SHREWSBURY, SLOUGH, SOUTHALL, STOURBRIDGE Sheet BL166T-Y - TAVISTOCK JUNC., WEST DRAYTON These sets include authentic recorded number / allocations, plus all other markings for the BR 'unboxed' lettering era. Each sheets also includes numerous other sets for different GWR and BR 'TOAD' diagrams. John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm Edited July 6, 2023 by cctransuk 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapido staff RapidoCorbs Posted July 6, 2023 Rapido staff Share Posted July 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pteremy said: Mine has arrived. As well as the roof I have a slightly wonky footboard, but I am sure that will fettle back straighter. As for the roof mine was on the wrong way round when it arrived. In fitting it correctly the slight bend manifested itself. But I don't know whether the retaining magnets are at fault. TBH in doing the fitting it felt as if the roof was just a little too tight a fit. No doubt it will fettle right - I would prefer that to gluing. Sorry to hear about the footboard and roof fitting, the footboard should not be wonky as it's held in 4 places. Please let us know if you would like to do a warranty enquiry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Pteremy said: Mine has arrived. As well as the roof I have a slightly wonky footboard, but I am sure that will fettle back straighter. As for the roof mine was on the wrong way round when it arrived. In fitting it correctly the slight bend manifested itself. But I don't know whether the retaining magnets are at fault. TBH in doing the fitting it felt as if the roof was just a little too tight a fit. No doubt it will fettle right - I would prefer that to gluing. Also had the roof curve, but only on one side. I found that one of the inside body magnets wasn't attached, but was held on to it's roof mate. Re-glued in place and the roof fitted without a bend. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: Sheet BL166T-Y - TAVISTOCK JUNC., WEST DRAYTON Talking of Tavistock Junc., does anyone know the date the shortened word for JUNCTION was started . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 19 hours ago, AY Mod said: You've let Schroedinger's cat out now! I hope it doesn't get knocked down on the motorway. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tankerman Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: For those modellers who want AA20 lettering for different allocations, I have the following authentic sets for the AA20 brakevan :- Sheet BL166A - ABERAVON, ACTON Sheet BL166B - BIRKENHEAD, BORDESLEY JUNCTION, BRISTOL Sheet BL166D-G - DIDCOT, DOWLAIS CAE HARRIS Sheet BL166H-L - HARTLEBURY, HEREFORD BARTON, LLANIDLOES Sheet BL166M-O - No.8 TRANSFER, OSWESTRY, OXFORD Sheet BL166P-R - PARK ROYAL, PENZANCE, TO WORK BETWEEN PRINCES RISBOROUGH AND CHINNOR ONLY Sheet BL166S - SEVERN TUNNEL, SHREWSBURY, SLOUGH, SOUTHALL, STOURBRIDGE Sheet BL166T-Y - TAVISTOCK JUNC., WEST DRAYTON These sets include authentic recorded number / allocations, plus all other markings for the BR 'unboxed' lettering era. Each sheets also includes numerous other sets for different GWR and BR 'TOAD' diagrams. John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm John, is there any chance of a Truro and/or a St Blazey set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) On 06/07/2023 at 15:10, Tankerman said: John, is there any chance of a Truro and/or a St Blazey set? Yes - St. Blazey coming very soon - WATCH THIS SPACE! Sorry, John. Edited July 8, 2023 by cctransuk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pteremy Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, rembrow said: Also had the roof curve, but only on one side. I found that one of the inside body magnets wasn't attached, but was held on to it's roof mate. Re-glued in place and the roof fitted without a bend. Interesting. I didn't have that - but in jiggling the roof into place I wasn't sure whether the magnets were acting as such or whether I was feeling a frictional contact between them. Thing is the roof itself is not bowed, so surely the bow must arise from a stress being created along the length of the roof? In your case it seems that the central magnets were strong enough to overcome that stress. I think that i will try thinning the 'ribs' underneath each end of the roof. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Pteremy Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Harlequin said: So - if I understand correctly - lucky you. If the issues are a function of particular versions then, for the record, mine is a BR 'Yeovil (P.M)' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Pteremy said: So - if I understand correctly - lucky you. If the issues are a function of particular versions then, for the record, mine is a BR 'Yeovil (P.M)' Yes, exactly. I know there was concern before release that, because the roofs were not fixed down, they might be prone to warping. I'm sure Rapido considered that in the design stages. Mine seems to be OK, others maybe not, and we don't know what the ratio is of straight to non-straight ones. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) On 04/07/2023 at 21:33, Bucoops said: Ah but what is your DN? CN=57xx,DC=www,DC=RMWeb,DC=com 🙂 (assuming I'm not in some OU called something like Users) Edited July 6, 2023 by 57xx 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted July 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, 57xx said: CN=57xx,DC=www,DC=RMWeb,DC=com 🙂 (assuming I'm not in some OU called something like Users) How to out-geek model railway bods 😆 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Harlequin said: we don't know what the ratio is of straight to non-straight ones Well, there must be a fairly high proportion of non-straight ones, for Rapido to devote such a large portion of the pamphlet to the problem. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: Well, there must be a fairly high proportion of non-straight ones, for Rapido to devote such a large portion of the pamphlet to the problem. Yes, I read that after I posted. Honestly, I can't decide if it's a reasonable compromise or a very odd way of producing a scale model... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2023 23 hours ago, cctransuk said: For those modellers who want AA20 lettering for different allocations, I have the following authentic sets for the AA20 brakevan :- Sheet BL166A - ABERAVON, ACTON Sheet BL166B - BIRKENHEAD, BORDESLEY JUNCTION, BRISTOL Sheet BL166D-G - DIDCOT, DOWLAIS CAE HARRIS Sheet BL166H-L - HARTLEBURY, HEREFORD BARTON, LLANIDLOES Sheet BL166M-O - No.8 TRANSFER, OSWESTRY, OXFORD Sheet BL166P-R - PARK ROYAL, PENZANCE, TO WORK BETWEEN PRINCES RISBOROUGH AND CHINNOR ONLY Sheet BL166S - SEVERN TUNNEL, SHREWSBURY, SLOUGH, SOUTHALL, STOURBRIDGE Sheet BL166T-Y - TAVISTOCK JUNC., WEST DRAYTON These sets include authentic recorded number / allocations, plus all other markings for the BR 'unboxed' lettering era. Each sheets also includes numerous other sets for different GWR and BR 'TOAD' diagrams. John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm You are to be congratulated on your choice of locations sir. Once my vans are to hand I shall be placing an order for a couple of sheets as they are precisely what I need thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2023 21 hours ago, gwrrob said: Talking of Tavistock Junc., does anyone know the date the shortened word for JUNCTION was started . How long is a piece of string? Rhe GWR seems - from examples I have - tohave used at least three different abbreviations for junction in Service Timetables over the years - none of which were 'Junc'. So it seems likely that the 'Junc' abbreviation was i used by the CME's dept and the inevitable best guide is going to be dated photos of freight (aka 'Goods') Brakevans and Shunters Trucks. The only question then is - being the GWR - was it any more consistent than any other painted abbreviation? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Modelu Chris Posted July 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2023 Ever wondered how Rapido get such a good finish to the paint on the Toad wagons? We have found the answer! It appears that I didn't put the roof back on correctly after getting an image of the inside of the wagon. 17 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelu Chris Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Here is the reason that the roof was taken off. Really nice model. Top work Rapido! 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: You are to be congratulated on your choice of locations sir. Once my vans are to hand I shall be placing an order for a couple of sheets as they are precisely what I need thanks. I'd love to do more - but I'm not aware of a more comprehensive list of AA20 numbers / allocations than the one that I have used. John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapido staff rapidoandy Posted July 7, 2023 Author Rapido staff Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, cctransuk said: I'd love to do more - but I'm not aware of a more comprehensive list of AA20 numbers / allocations than the one that I have used. John Isherwood. Well a quick search will find a more comprehensive list here: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html It states that 17233 was allocated to St Blazey. If you don't believe that this photo proves it: Andy Edited July 7, 2023 by rapidoandy 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, rapidoandy said: Well a quick search will find a more comprehensive list here: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html It states that 17233 was allocated to St Blazey. If you don't believe that this photo proves it: Andy Thanks - await developments! John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 hours ago, rapidoandy said: Well a quick search will find a more comprehensive list here: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html It states that 17233 was allocated to St Blazey. If you don't believe that this photo proves it: Andy That list is the one that I used when designing the sheets - how I missed W17233, I can't immediately explain. I will check the list against the content of the sheets, and make such adjustments as are required. Watch this space! John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, cctransuk said: how I missed W17233, I can't immediately explain. Updating the file is rare, but I do update it (it is dated) whenever I spot a new pic. There is an open invitation for anyone to submit a new entry. It's one of those situations where I have to trust the accuracy of the submission, but that's no different to many other areas of RMweb. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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