Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Was Seb at a different Championship to the rest of F1? Vettel defends under-fire Masi for doing "a very, very good job" https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/75509/vettel-defends-under-fire-masi-for-doing-a-very-very-good-job/?fbclid=IwAR1LNT_c7fSborFt1Dfwc6KP4mZXReecmibOEFK5s6e55YZVhM-OgYc9ycY 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 And his Team Mate thinks the opposite. Masi slated for 'ridiculous lack of consistency' following Abu Dhabi fiasco https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/75522/masi-slated-for-ridiculous-lack-of-consistency-following-abu-dhabi-fiasco/?fbclid=IwAR3ddQ0wjWtS2cVgvTtGqO8Jgpg3fk_kyOoohWFj6lubf7xSlxlFyzusrpg 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted February 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Was Seb at a different Championship to the rest of F1? Vettel defends under-fire Masi for doing "a very, very good job" https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/75509/vettel-defends-under-fire-masi-for-doing-a-very-very-good-job/?fbclid=IwAR1LNT_c7fSborFt1Dfwc6KP4mZXReecmibOEFK5s6e55YZVhM-OgYc9ycY His hair was too long, he couldn't see much.... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 10 hours ago, MarkC said: MV deciding to use "1" on his car this year speaks volumes - you would have thought that, given the way the title was <decided>, he'd have the grace to continue to race under his usual number. Like him or loathe him, LH continuing to just use his "44", even after multiple championship wins, shows him to be more respectful of his competitors than MV... It is the world champion's privilege to use No 1, so I don't see why he should suffer any criticism by choosing to use it. I am less critical than most of Verstappen, Horner or anyone else in RB. It really isn't their fault that they are allowed to act like they do. Everyone in the sport pushes rules as far as they believe they will get away with & this is not unique to F1. Teams have got away with too much for too long. It is the fault of the officials for not defining limits & sticking by them. They are pretty good with technical regs but very loose with sporting regs. The safety car radio calls from Wolff, Horner & Wheatley are a good example: A good referee or RD would have responded with something like "I've made my decision & it is my decision thank you", not clearly being influenced by Horner & Wheatley (because he did change his decision) followed by the sarcastic "it's called racing" response Wolff got from Masi. The RD also needs to have a working set of rules. F1's sporting regs need to be tightened. Rules in most sports are updated frequently by a board of the sport's top officials. Surely Masi should have been on such a board ensuring the rules are workable? None of the dodgy decisions in 2021 were new. They were just made to look worse because it was a closer season than we have seen for a while. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete the Elaner said: It is the world champion's privilege to use No 1, so I don't see why he should suffer any criticism by choosing to use it. I am less critical than most of Verstappen, Horner or anyone else in RB. It really isn't their fault that they are allowed to act like they do. Everyone in the sport pushes rules as far as they believe they will get away with & this is not unique to F1. Teams have got away with too much for too long. It is the fault of the officials for not defining limits & sticking by them. They are pretty good with technical regs but very loose with sporting regs. The safety car radio calls from Wolff, Horner & Wheatley are a good example: A good referee or RD would have responded with something like "I've made my decision & it is my decision thank you", not clearly being influenced by Horner & Wheatley (because he did change his decision) followed by the sarcastic "it's called racing" response Wolff got from Masi. The RD also needs to have a working set of rules. F1's sporting regs need to be tightened. Rules in most sports are updated frequently by a board of the sport's top officials. Surely Masi should have been on such a board ensuring the rules are workable? None of the dodgy decisions in 2021 were new. They were just made to look worse because it was a closer season than we have seen for a while. But RB/Horner/MV exploited the weaknesses of the race (mis)management and refereeing to their own advantage. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 11, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2022 12 hours ago, MarkC said: MV deciding to use "1" on his car this year speaks volumes - you would have thought that, given the way the title was <decided>, he'd have the grace to continue to race under his usual number. Like him or loathe him, LH continuing to just use his "44", even after multiple championship wins, shows him to be more respectful of his competitors than MV... I hope LH if he wins the championship next year takes up the #1 just to give RB/Horner/MV the two finger salute. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: I hope LH if he wins the championship next year takes up the #1 just to give RB/Horner/MV the two finger salute. If Lewis wins this year he will retire, knowing he has a unique record, and has redressed the Masi-inspired balance. It'll be rather like when Ali became boxing champion again, which was not then a common event in that sport, either. We also hope Lewis will have better back-up than in recent years, at least, or maybe even a new rival. Max will still be a lone driver, so the number 1 is sort of significant there, too. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: But RB/Horner/MV exploited the weaknesses of the race (mis)management and refereeing to their own advantage. They did exploit weaknesses to their own advantage, but they were allowed to do it though. Referees (or in this case Race Director) needs to establish their authority. As soon as they change a decision after being harassed by a team, they lose this. It was clear Masi had lost his authority after he changed his mind on track limits during the Bahrain race. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: If Lewis wins this year he will retire, knowing he has a unique record, and has redressed the Masi-inspired balance. It'll be rather like when Ali became boxing champion again, which was not then a common event in that sport, either. We also hope Lewis will have better back-up than in recent years, at least, or maybe even a new rival. Max will still be a lone driver, so the number 1 is sort of significant there, too. Bottas was viewed as very promising when he left Williams for Mercedes. On his day, he can compete very well, but he doesn't have great weekends often enough. Now it seems many consider him to be a second rate driver. Russell has not yet been in a position in F1 where he has no excuses. Finishing in the points was a bonus. Even in his 1 drive for Mercedes, he was not expected to do so well so the pressure was off. Now he is in the Merc, finishing on the podium will be an expectation. It is a different kind of pressure. How will he cope with it? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Pink Alpine? BWT joins Alpine as title sponsor after split from Aston Martin https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/11/bwt-joins-alpine-as-title-sponsor-after-split-from-aston-martin/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 16 hours ago, MarkC said: MV deciding to use "1" on his car this year speaks volumes - you would have thought that, given the way the title was <decided>, he'd have the grace to continue to race under his usual number. Like him or loathe him, LH continuing to just use his "44", even after multiple championship wins, shows him to be more respectful of his competitors than MV... Given the amount of needle that Max has been given, understandable that he would enjoy giving some blowback. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 11, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2022 One of MB’s ex aero engineers who now works freelance has pointed out the similarities to the show car so it appears the RB launch revealed pretty much nothing see KYLE.ENGINEERS on YouTube 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 McLaren Launch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 My thoughts on Launch Liveries so far. Haas = 2/10 Aston Martin = 6/10 Red Bull - 5/10 McLaren = 7/10 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Masi deserves chance to stay as F1 race director – Ricciardo. https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/11/masi-deserves-chance-to-stay-as-f1-race-director-ricciardo/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Masi deserves chance to stay as F1 race director – Ricciardo. https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/11/masi-deserves-chance-to-stay-as-f1-race-director-ricciardo/ It must be somewhat painful sitting on that fence......... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 BE AWARE, A LOT OF SWEARING IS INVOLVED. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 Sums it up pretty well, expletives and all! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Hamilton WILL attend Mercedes W13 launch. https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/75633/hamilton-will-attend-mercedes-w13-launch/?fbclid=IwAR2ZWy7v-OxzkUb_-6D5M6Y5HEip0LcaZQ8vqa8uzg-U2OLC0YKbnXN0eDQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted February 12, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Hamilton WILL attend Mercedes W13 launch. https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/75633/hamilton-will-attend-mercedes-w13-launch/?fbclid=IwAR2ZWy7v-OxzkUb_-6D5M6Y5HEip0LcaZQ8vqa8uzg-U2OLC0YKbnXN0eDQ If he's going to drive the thing, he might as well turn up to assist the publicity machine. Hope HE'S had a haircut! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Hroth said: If he's going to drive the thing, he might as well turn up to assist the publicity machine. Hope HE'S had a haircut! A shaved head like his Dad would be good, and cooler in the helmet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 FIA confirms race start times for revised 2022 grand prix weekend schedule. https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/12/fia-confirms-race-start-times-for-revised-2022-grand-prix-weekend-schedule/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Ricciardo “impressed” by Norris’s ability to “push the scale” on track. https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/13/ricciardo-impressed-by-norriss-ability-to-push-the-scale-on-track/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 What a pity our only dedicated Free to watch terrestrial TV Channel can't update its Website. https://www.channel4.com/programmes/formula-1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy crockett Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 https://www.channel4.com/4viewers/blog/formula-e-and-formula-1-2022 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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