RMweb Premium SR71 Posted January 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: Alonso’s 2004 Renault set to be auctioned in Paris. Any takers on here? https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.alonsos-2004-renault-set-to-be-auctioned-in-paris.7LBCWOeQNcpmrdVmpfEKpU.html?fbclid=IwAR1bnjEceOeJm2Na7G-kaIkLqceGq-BFL0OSMuY8kI1RXSKAm7GZXHA5FnQ I don't think it'll go up the curb into the office car park. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 FIA planning new F1 race-management structure after Abu Dhabi controversy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60160969 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: FIA planning new F1 race-management structure after Abu Dhabi controversy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60160969 Good, it's nice to hear they are at least looking at making changes. IMO Masi (or replacement) needs to be the 'head' of a team who manage the race. I'm sure it's possible to still have the quick reactions needed to deploy safety measures (eg, Safety Car) with a Team in charge. However it would reduce the pressure on the Race Directors sholders. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, LNERandBR said: Good, it's nice to hear they are at least looking at making changes. IMO Masi (or replacement) needs to be the 'head' of a team who manage the race. I'm sure it's possible to still have the quick reactions needed to deploy safety measures (eg, Safety Car) with a Team in charge. However it would reduce the pressure on the Race Directors sholders. Yes, 3 inc Race Director would be the ideal number, and go with a quick majority. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SR71 Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Andrew P said: FIA planning new F1 race-management structure after Abu Dhabi controversy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60160969 BBC News - Michael Masi: FIA may end spell as race director after Abu Dhabi controversy https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60170232 Basically the same meat, different side dishes, but a little clearer on possibilities. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, SR71 said: BBC News - Michael Masi: FIA may end spell as race director after Abu Dhabi controversy https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60170232 Basically the same meat, different side dishes, but a little clearer on possibilities. I've just come in and seen that report. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED BEFORE SUN DOWN ON RACE DAY. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Whether Michael Masi was under pressure or not he as race director should be more up to date on rules and regulations than everyone else . What ever the position or result of the race outcome the rules were changed during the race 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2022 Charlie Whiting managed to do the job properly. The FIA allowed Masi to be put in a position that he couldn't handle. He should be moved elsewhere in their organization and the rules changed for clarity. The teams should not be allowed to speak to and influence the race officials during the race, which if the officials are doing their job properly shouldn't be necessary anyway. And finally, C Horner should be permanently gagged. 10 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) The whole thing stinks of incompetence being rewarded (which we see in so many places these days). Perhaps the FIA bods are worried that setting a precedent for the Race Director actually being good at their job might be too dangerous for their own positions… Darius Edited January 28, 2022 by Darius43 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2022 I'm afraid that, rather like Boris's parties and Sue Gray, there hasn't been much actual news about the FIA and F1 since the chequered flag of the last race. Lots of promises of a report and everyone's ideas about who should be blamed and why, but it's all typical between-the-seasons hypothesis from a meejah desperate to keep their pot boiling. Wake me when something happens - or Lewis surfaces with a decision about his future. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: I'm afraid that, rather like Boris's parties and Sue Gray, there hasn't been much actual news about the FIA and F1 since the chequered flag of the last race. Lots of promises of a report and everyone's ideas about who should be blamed and why, but it's all typical between-the-seasons hypothesis from a meejah desperate to keep their pot boiling. Wake me when something happens - or Lewis surfaces with a decision about his future. I think Lewis is like you and has gone to sleep too come on Lewis wake up and put us out of our misery 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 For ONCE Horner speaks some sense. F1 must decide on 2022 sprint event format plans soon – Horner https://www.racefans.net/2022/01/28/f1-must-decide-on-2022-sprint-event-format-plans-soon-horner/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 No decision yet over outcome of Abu Dhabi restart investigation – FIA. https://www.racefans.net/2022/01/29/no-decision-yet-over-outcome-of-abu-dhabi-restart-investigation-fia/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Not what I was expecting from someone that wants to drive the Merc. Nyck de Vries comments on the possibility of replacing Hamilton. http://www.silverarrows.net/news/nyck-de-vries-comments-on-the-possibility-of-replacing-hamilton/?fbclid=IwAR2ktXmygY1SD_sQtRvST1v7NSO_2zpGoqBGNWEccRPXe1tUskc4MHl7fM8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Andrew P said: Not what I was expecting from someone that wants to drive the Merc. Nyck de Vries comments on the possibility of replacing Hamilton. http://www.silverarrows.net/news/nyck-de-vries-comments-on-the-possibility-of-replacing-hamilton/?fbclid=IwAR2ktXmygY1SD_sQtRvST1v7NSO_2zpGoqBGNWEccRPXe1tUskc4MHl7fM8 I think he’s just diplomatically not saying he’s interested and assuring his current team he’s focused on them not hoping to jump out After them choosing George over their test driver in 2020 you can make yourself look like second or third choice if you’re not picked after all. However if you weren’t ‘in the frame’ by your choice . . . 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 18 hours ago, Andrew P said: No decision yet over outcome of Abu Dhabi restart investigation – FIA. https://www.racefans.net/2022/01/29/no-decision-yet-over-outcome-of-abu-dhabi-restart-investigation-fia/ Pitpass notes that Bayer's on-record comments to a journo are premature, to say the least. This looks like factionism within the FIA hierarchy, which the sport needs like square wheels. https://www.pitpass.com/71751/FIA-issues-statement-following-Masi-comments 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The FIA calls emergency World Motor Sport Council meeting. Panic time me thinks. http://www.silverarrows.net/news/the-fia-calls-emergency-world-motor-sport-council-meeting/?fbclid=IwAR341NfRG9gDir9dYmUyxXzAxOi83eH2hqiXdbayAFtzAtP59_whMNx-GFE 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: The FIA calls emergency World Motor Sport Council meeting. Panic time me thinks. http://www.silverarrows.net/news/the-fia-calls-emergency-world-motor-sport-council-meeting/?fbclid=IwAR341NfRG9gDir9dYmUyxXzAxOi83eH2hqiXdbayAFtzAtP59_whMNx-GFE It could be that the outcome of the Abu Dhabi restart investigation doesn't suit the FIA. They might have a lot of stuff to sweep under the carpet... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Or is it that there need to change the results of the last race of 2021 & need to try& put a good Spin on it 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, mozzer models said: Or is it that there need to change the results of the last race of 2021 & need to try& put a good Spin on it I really cant see them doing that. Also I think Toto and Lewis accepted that Max and Red Bull did nothing wrong, other than gloat. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, mozzer models said: Or is it that there need to change the results of the last race of 2021 & need to try& put a good Spin on it As in "Oh look! Verstappen spun his car on the restart and Hamilton won after all"? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hroth said: It could be that the outcome of the Abu Dhabi restart investigation doesn't suit the FIA. They might have a lot of stuff to sweep under the carpet... Is there a carpet big enough? 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 30, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, 4630 said: Is there a carpet big enough? The one with the big lumps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ok, it's not F1, but just been watching the climax of the Cyclo-cross World Championship on BBC ("red button"). A familiar scenario - a British guy way out in front of a chasing Dutchman in second place, lap after lap. Don't say I wasn't concerned that history might repeat and a "freak" result just happen... Thankfully, no interventions and congratulations to Tom Pidcock on a well deserved win and the first Briton to earn the rainbow jersey! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Poll – Should FIA world championship races be allowed to finish under Safety Car? For my personal opinion, I feel it should be aloud to finish under a Safety Car for three reasons. A, the driver thus far has earned the win. B, If the race is extended, then Cars may run out, or not have the required fuel for scrutiny . C, Another accident, or puncture from debris could occur, meaning another Safety Car period. https://www.racefans.net/2022/01/30/poll-should-world-championship-races-be-allowed-to-finish-under-safety-car/ 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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