Ingleford Wharf: 1870s canalside inglenook on the "M&WJR" in 00, and Victoria Quay: a 1900s WIP in 0

[Schooner]

My laptop certainly did!

[Nick C]

16 hours ago, Schooner said:

 

This one, IMHO - the first three look far too modern.

 

10 hours ago, Schooner said:

just as S&D doesn't always refer to the Stockton and Darlington...?

Good point, we need more layouts of the Southampton and Dorchester Railway...

[Schooner]

Wary of premature self-congratulation (shh, you) we'll see what the unveiling brings before making any judgements, but the first half of Slumpy Water appeared a success:

Still a noticeable difference in distance to the water between the New Wharf (with posts) and the Old Wharf (without). Interesting that the resin was obviously still settling slightly as it cured - as evidenced by the faint ripples.

 

So, this evening the idea was to do the same in the opposite direction, turning this

into this

...and we'll see what tomorrow brings.

 

As it may not be visible by then, depending on where the water level settles, it was interesting to note that the walling blew right along the Old Wharf:

Edging is Wills Random Stone (the lowest course only), the walling itself is Wills Coarse Stone, both set into Sculptamold, which is over the foamboard base. 

 

I'm assuming it was the heat of the curing resin along the lower edge of the Wills sheet (useful to note, the full-depth walling around the bridge is absolutely fine), although it might simply have been the pressure of the resin, or some freelance chemistry. Moral of the story - don't try to save money by skimping on your walling product of choice!

 

Oh, before I forget [he says, having forgotten and editing this bit in] the other surprise was to find that the resin had wicked up the static grass (I'm blaming the the 1mm base layer) right the way up to - and into - the towpath. Did not expect that! Did expect to do some more static grassing of the bank once the resin is cured, however, to blend the reeds in a bit and soften the transition down to the water. So, no dramas really just worth keeping in mind for the future.

 

Once it's all cured (48+hrs; I'm resolved not to investigate until Saturday night at the earliest*) I'll have a look and see what's to be done to fix it whilst I'm painting the wall to match the waterline. The wall is South-facing (the operator is looking North), so as per the RHS below:

with a thin dark mucky line just about the water, and a lighter band just above that. Under the bridge on the layout will take more after the LHS above.

 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Schooner
*Obviously I'm going to have a peek before then, but you'll only hear about it if it's good news... :)

[Schooner]

In context, but in no particular order:

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Schooner
Picture wrangling

[Schooner]

Batch 2*:

*I doubted my initial method, so tried harder. Looks better, no?!

Edited May 4, 2023 by Schooner
Sp.

[lezz01]

I kinda like the first one myself. So what are you doing is making a literacy symbol right? It's quite like the lose knot symbol, was it the North Staffs had? From a time most people couldn't read. It looks good.

Regards Lez.

 

[magmouse]

If the logo is going to be on only one plank, then put it on the bottom plank opposite the number.

 

But bigger, and central, is perhaps better? (not central on this wagon because of the centre door hinge, but in general)

 

Picture 2 of your last post is fun, but feels modern - a slightly playful working with the plank line.

 

Nick.

[Dave John]

Hmm, If I was a signwriter I would put a symbol on 1 plank , not across two. Quicker and easier. 

 

I'd go for the pic one symbol on a single plank. 

[Schooner]

35 minutes ago, lezz01 said:

So what are you doing is making a literacy symbol right?

Thought it might be fun...and easier than lettering :)

 

32 minutes ago, magmouse said:

If the logo is going to be on only one plank, then put it on the bottom plank opposite the number.

 

32 minutes ago, magmouse said:

But bigger, and central, is perhaps better?

 

32 minutes ago, magmouse said:

Picture 2 of your last post is fun

See also the preceeding one - reflection about the plank line gives the M/W from the single bow shape :)

 

21 minutes ago, Dave John said:

If I was a signwriter I would put a symbol on 1 plank , not across two.

http://www.lnwrs.org.uk/Wagons/open/diag2.jpg

Why is it always that the best pics won't embed?!

 

 

 

Although variety is the spice of life, they say...

 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Schooner
The usuals

[lezz01]

I do like the NSR one I might have to do a couple of wagons. 

Regards Lez.

[lezz01]

Who does North Staffs rolling stock?

Regards Lez.

[Schooner]

4mm aren't you, Lez? Have a look here - there's quite a lot available for the Knotty. Whoever said pre-Groupding was niche?

 

I remembered about @billbedford's Mousa

 

and Wizard

 

and a lot of @MarcD's wagons are available in 4mm too I believe, which might be useful.

 

Tip of the iceberg though, lots of interesting stuff to be found...

[lezz01]

That's really useful. Cheers mate.

Regards Lez.

[Schooner]

De nada. Good hunting!

[Annie]

 

I like this one.

[Mikkel]

Yep, my vote goes for that one.

 

Edit: No, my vote goes to that one. Yours, Ig Noramus

Edited May 5, 2023 by Mikkel

[WFPettigrew]

Yes I think I am with Annie and Mikkel if you are going to have a symbol.  The "scissors" one looks odd when put onto the wagon.   This one does trouble me a bit as to whether Victorian signwriters would have come up with such a thing in an era before graphic design, but it would not take very long to be painted onto the wagon, especially if not crossing the gap between the planks, and it is rooted in who the company is (unlike the LNWR's diamond or the LYR's symbol).

 

HTH.  

[Compound2632]

Sorry, I'm late to the surface flatness conversation. To my mind what I saw in those photos was very convincing. Of course the ground level around the canal would settle and what might have been level brickwork to begin with may have undergone subsidence. Equally, the original brickwork might have been laid out of true.

 

The world isn't flat; certainly not P4 flat.

[Asterix2012]

I like the horseshoe one, seems in keeping with the era and links back to horse drawn narrowboats and early tramways 

[MrWolf]

Can I be awkward and say that I prefer the first picture of batch two? 

The infilled bowtie looking logo would be easy to pick out in a goods yard.

[chuffinghell]

I like the horseshoe one, mainly because of its simplicity

 

Edited May 6, 2023 by chuffinghell

[brumtb]

23 hours ago, MrWolf said:

Can I be awkward and say that I prefer the first picture of batch two? 

The infilled bowtie looking logo would be easy to pick out in a goods yard.

And not too far from the LNWR diamond logos of a similar era.

Tony

[41516]

On 05/05/2023 at 00:27, Schooner said:

 

 

Can't unsee the TIE Fighter!

 

 

[Schooner]

Slumpy Water, thin in the middle but fat at the ends, warts and all as unvieled:

Compare the depth of the obvious layers*

Gust of wind blowing along the canal, it seems!*

Shows how the resin has wicked up the static grass and into the towpath

*unintentional but not particularly unpleasant

[Graham T]

That looks great - very much like the ripples!