Mike Harvey Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 This made an amusing read. Who would be a vehicle or train manufacturer. https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/blogs/news-1/a-question-of-scale 1 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators AY Mod Posted July 10, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 10, 2021 That piece probably explains an awful lot about some of the products. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) To confuse matters HO slot cars, like those produced by Aurora in the 70s,80 and 90s where advertised as being 1:64 even though they were still called ‘HO scale’ slot cars. Oxford Diecast Ford Anglia 1:76 and HO scale slotcar Ford Anglia! Edited July 10, 2021 by Erichill16 Spelling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2021 The Triang Minic road system was supposedly 1/76 but the cars were obviously a lot larger. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 An interesting article from the company which produces a Citroen H van in the 1:76 range - that is actually 1:87th ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2021 50 minutes ago, fodenway said: An interesting article from the company which produces a Citroen H van in the 1:76 range - that is actually 1:87th ! And thinks cars in India are LH drive......... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Bird Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 It's interesting to read about the gripes regarding specific models and how they should be this or that particular version. My pet peeve is the Mark 2 Cortina. Every model I have ever seen, regardless of scale or manufacturer has been a 2-door model. As the car was marketed by Ford as a family car, I'm convinced that the majority had 4 doors; mine has! Should any manufacturer ever consider making a 00 scale 4-door in Ford "Light Green 67", I would buy one, maybe even two. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Les Bird said: It's interesting to read about the gripes regarding specific models and how they should be this or that particular version. My pet peeve is the Mark 2 Cortina. Every model I have ever seen, regardless of scale or manufacturer has been a 2-door model. As the car was marketed by Ford as a family car, I'm convinced that the majority had 4 doors; mine has! Should any manufacturer ever consider making a 00 scale 4-door in Ford "Light Green 67", I would buy one, maybe even two. An astute observation. Oh, for the days of diecast toys in the fifties, when most of the non-sports cars in the Dinky and Corgi Toys ranges were four-door saloons. It seems that as 'toy' cars evolved into 'models for adult collectors', manufacturers' perception changed to 'sporty versions will sell better', even though real-life sales figures probably said differently. Personally, I was very disappointed when Oxford's American range came out in 1:87 rather than 1:76, although I fully understand the decision from a marketing point of view - aiming at the US market. Ah, America - where anything between 1:64 and 1:100 is often described as "HO" ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 That's a very interesting article, I've often wondered how we've arrived at the mess of different scales for different genres of modelling. I recall a story about how 1:35 came about for military models because some company (it might have been Tamiya) found that a 1:32 scale tank would not fit in the standard box but a slightly smaller scale would. And it's certainly easy to despair of modellers who seem to judge value by the inch or pound, rather than levels of prototypical fidelity. The comments on how new models are received certainly ring true as well (and I'm not just referring to RM Web here). 33 minutes ago, fodenway said: An astute observation. Oh, for the days of diecast toys in the fifties, when most of the non-sports cars in the Dinky and Corgi Toys ranges were four-door saloons. It seems that as 'toy' cars evolved into 'models for adult collectors', manufacturers' perception changed to 'sporty versions will sell better', even though real-life sales figures probably said differently. Personally, I was very disappointed when Oxford's American range came out in 1:87 rather than 1:76, although I fully understand the decision from a marketing point of view - aiming at the US market. Ah, America - where anything between 1:64 and 1:100 is often described as "HO" ! My main vehicle modelling scale these days is 1:24 or 1:25 and I'm developing a weird fascination with models of four-door cars, because there aren't that many. I also agree on the Oxford American car range, although I don't have a 1:76 model railway I have collected a few of the 1:76 cars because they are quite lovely (in fact I have to be quite choosy otherwise I'd have rather more of them). If the American range had been to the same scale I'd buy a few of those, but I can't bring myself to put them on the same shelf as the 00 models. However, apart from this time, I'll generally keep my views to myself and accept that there are many more people who will happily buy the HO scale American models and Oxford primarily exists to make money rather than to satisfy the obscure requirements of a 45-year old car-nut in Warwickshire. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 hours ago, fodenway said: An astute observation. Oh, for the days of diecast toys in the fifties, when most of the non-sports cars in the Dinky and Corgi Toys ranges were four-door saloons. It seems that as 'toy' cars evolved into 'models for adult collectors', manufacturers' perception changed to 'sporty versions will sell better', even though real-life sales figures probably said differently. Personally, I was very disappointed when Oxford's American range came out in 1:87 rather than 1:76, although I fully understand the decision from a marketing point of view - aiming at the US market. Ah, America - where anything between 1:64 and 1:100 is often described as "HO" ! Its a well known fact that in diecast model cars Ferrari outsells Ford by a ratio of three to one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Les Bird said: It's interesting to read about the gripes regarding specific models and how they should be this or that particular version. My pet peeve is the Mark 2 Cortina. Every model I have ever seen, regardless of scale or manufacturer has been a 2-door model. As the car was marketed by Ford as a family car, I'm convinced that the majority had 4 doors; mine has! Should any manufacturer ever consider making a 00 scale 4-door in Ford "Light Green 67", I would buy one, maybe even two. Same with the Mk. I, the Oxford rendition is of the Lotus version with the quarter bumpers on the front and a few other faults such as the rear window and the tail lights, more Ford Falcon than Cortina. The Base toys version although the four door version and with the correct rear lights suffered from QC errors such as the 'kick up' of the back end. The later versions of the Base toys ones were not too bad but could be improved by swapping over the wheels and interior of an Oxford one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Bird Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Wonder of wonders. My son has just presented me with a 2mm scale Mark 2 Cortina and it has four doors! All I need now is a 4mm one. How about it Oxford? Edited July 28, 2021 by Les Bird addition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) If they do the four door I hope they do a better job than they did of the two door. Edited July 28, 2021 by BernardTPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2021 If they do the fur door I hope they do a better job than they did of the two door. Here's one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Only two doors though. And not even a Ford. Edited July 28, 2021 by BernardTPM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I just wish someone made a OO scale Holden or an Australian Ford or Chrysler. I"m not being too fussy....I'd take anything at all , any shape...... any number of doors..... Any colour... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 My father once had a ford falcon. Front bench seat, three speed column change. I drove it across the Hay plain/desert. No model of it, thou. ;-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2021 12 hours ago, monkeysarefun said: I just wish someone made a OO scale Holden or an Australian Ford or Chrysler. I"m not being too fussy....I'd take anything at all , any shape...... any number of doors..... Any colour... Matchbox have a Holden 'ute' model, not sure if it is 00 scale though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Matchbox have a Holden 'ute' model, not sure if it is 00 scale though. Thanks Phil, I actually do have that model, but that's because I've got the actual ute in the driveway, but it's pretty toylike, and it's a 2010 prototype. I'm after local cars of the 60s and 70s, photos of Australia in those pre Japanese imports years show streets of home grown cars. ( And vee dubs. We apparently had lots of vee dubs since almost any photo will have at least one in there somewhere..) I have started creating 3d versions of my own to print but it's a slow process.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 They did an earlier 1970s Holden Ute, 60d. I've got one in my collection. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, BernardTPM said: They did an earlier 1970s Holden Ute, 60d. I've got one in my collection. The picture on the box looks like a Kingswood HJ through to HZ model, so post 1974. That would suit a country layout parked outside a pub if you could get a dozen or so of them. Chuck a bullbar and a bank of spotties on it for the authentic country ute look! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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