GD Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Hi everyone, a Bachmann 47711 has appeared on ebay this morning, I haven't been keeping up with releases but am I to believe this is quite dodgy? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324699053886?hash=item4b99925f3e:g:oGYAAOSwiPdg3jzV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 It shown on the Bachmann website as 'awaiting', but the E-bay listing could simply be someone who has a pre-order elsewhere and will send it on when it arrives (ie it is not available for immediate dispatch). https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/class-47-7-47711-'greyfriars-bobby'-br-blue-(large-logo)/31-665 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 A quick search into google will show that this is to be released by Bachmann. A link to it on their site from said Google search brings you to this: https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/class-47-7-47711-'greyfriars-bobby'-br-blue-(large-logo)/31-665 Add that its all on ebay, (which means there is a way to dispute a scam and thus people will be much less likely to do it as it will cost them to put the product/sale right) - gives you some protection as well if you were interested in the sale. All looks good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted July 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2021 Look at this seller's negative feedback reports. I wouldn't go near this guy ..... Feedback Reports 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Black Hat said: A quick search into google will show that this is to be released by Bachmann. A link to it on their site from said Google search brings you to this: https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/class-47-7-47711-'greyfriars-bobby'-br-blue-(large-logo)/31-665 Add that its all on ebay, (which means there is a way to dispute a scam and thus people will be much less likely to do it as it will cost them to put the product/sale right) - gives you some protection as well if you were interested in the sale. All looks good to me. Ok I would be interested but the guys feedback has put me off to be honest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) I note that the E-bay listing states that the product is "New: A brand-new, unused, unopened and undamaged item". However, the listing describes the model as 'sound fitted' whilst Bachmann's description is that the model is just DCC Ready. Therefore, if the model is going to be sound fitted, who is doing the installation and why? What sound chip do they intend using? If the model is not sound fitted, then it's cheaper to pick it up elsewhere. I think I'd give it a miss. Edited July 2, 2021 by Dungrange 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) This bloke surely isn't an enthusiast, he looks a typical sell anything dealer? Look at his stuff for sale. No returns accepted! I'd avoid! However, it is up to you isn't it? Phil Edited July 2, 2021 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted July 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, RFS said: Look at this seller's negative feedback reports. I wouldn't go near this guy ..... Feedback Reports Posting images screenshot from the Bachmann web site rather than the actual item allegedly for sale is another warning sign IMHO. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: This bloke surely isn't an enthusiast, he looks a typical sell anything dealer? Look at his stuff for sale. No returns accepted! I'd avoid! However, it is up to you isn't it? Phil I won't be investing....I'm out 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Note the "Rare" in the title and description. I should think it is rare, as it's not available yet! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Start with the feedback and work from there , not the other way round 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 It is true that feedback can both be a genuine indication - which I think it is here - a set-up (copied from genuine users, but incorrect) or a character assassination by a rival. I don't think any salt is required here. Proven not to be available. Sound is at best a cost option as well judging by the responses. Highly unusual. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted July 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2021 Listing ended, probably for the best...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted July 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Tim Hall said: Listing ended, probably for the best...... Listing has ended because someone bought it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Nothing wrong with using stock Bachmann images, several reputable sellers do this for new sales. I buy regularly from one who's entire listings for Bachmann consist of company images. Take a look at the current class 45 listings and there are images of the real loco for some examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Has seller made a mistake and listed the N gauge one? If not an enthusiast could he have made that error? I think 711 in LL was made in N? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Could it have been the 'N' - that's a good question. I just had a quick look at the original listing. Very thorough presentation, but I didn't see mention of the scale. It does mention 'switchable lighting', sprung buffers, etched nameplates - are these also features on N-gauge? Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 02/07/2021 at 09:50, Dungrange said: I note that the E-bay listing states that the product is "New: A brand-new, unused, unopened and undamaged item". However, the listing describes the model as 'sound fitted' whilst Bachmann's description is that the model is just DCC Ready. Therefore, if the model is going to be sound fitted, who is doing the installation and why? What sound chip do they intend using? If the model is not sound fitted, then it's cheaper to pick it up elsewhere. I think I'd give it a miss. Bachmann is offering 47711 as both DCC Ready and Sound fitted, so the "New etc..." statement is reasonable. But "Awaiting" on Bachmann's website means production is not currently imminent, indeed could be a year off looking at the other models with estimated availability dates, so where the seller expects to get one from is a mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 This might be a silly question and really obvious but………did anyone actually message him to ask about it, or is wild speculation just much more fun?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 It seems that this seller has had his ebay account suspended, not sure if this transaction had anything to do with it but there you go. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted July 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, GD said: It seems that this seller has had his ebay account suspended, not sure if this transaction had anything to do with it but there you go. Hardly surprising looking now at his negative feedback . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2021 Well that seems weird. Only done 59 sales so caught early by the looks if it. Good heads up by the OP.... P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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