fodenway Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 16 hours ago, PhilJ W said: It would be a Karrier fitted with a Scammel mechanical horse fifth wheel. By the looks of it would be brand new. The Bantam would have been fitted with the Karrier J Type coupling, which was compatible with the Scammell automatic coupler. Karrier also fitted their own BK Type coupling, where the landing wheels were positioned outside the tractors' driving wheels, for added stability when uncoupled. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crompton 33 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 A chap in my road has a ww2 jeep . He is out in it most days of the week. Still on 6 volts told him to convert it to 12 volts for better starting. He wants to leave it as built. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewisin Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Hi Mike I think that one of the old Circuses Billy SDmarts or Chipperfields had a couple of ex surlplus military jeeps. Regards Ray 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 There was also one at a Butlins holiday camp decked out as a 'Casey Jones' type locomotive hauling a train of passenger trailers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 On 13/06/2021 at 11:38, PhilJ W said: Nearest is an Austin Atlantic, then what I think is a Wolsely, Austin 8 or 10, Riley Pathfinder?, Hillman Minx, Jag Mk. VII. Metropolitan, FordsonE83W van, unidentifiable, Ford Zephyr Mk. II, another Fordson E83W. Re the Fordson E83Wvan . I recall that the accelerator pedal was located in between the clutch and the brake pedal . I was a very young passenger in one circa 1954 . The driver “braked “ when a car slowed and hit the accelerator! But cars and vans had proper bumpers ( girders) in them days . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1466 said: Re the Fordson E83Wvan . I recall that the accelerator pedal was located in between the clutch and the brake pedal . I was a very young passenger in one circa 1954 . The driver “braked “ when a car slowed and hit the accelerator! But cars and vans had proper bumpers ( girders) in them days . That would have been a pre 1948 version. After 1948 they had the conventional clutch-brake-accelerator. The main identification from outside is the pre 1948 ones didn't have the 'tail' extension of the rear wheel arches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Given that centre throttle pedal arrangements were de rigeur on very sporting machinery in the 1920s and 30s, methinks the little Fordson had ideas well above its station. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted June 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 12/06/2021 at 19:44, JZ said: .......... The easy way to spot the difference is the grill. Willys have 7 slots, something that continues with todays Jeep brand ...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 5 hours ago, PatB said: Given that centre throttle pedal arrangements were de rigeur on very sporting machinery in the 1920s and 30s, methinks the little Fordson had ideas well above its station. I recall that Douglas Bader had his MG modified after the loss of his legs . I gather he had more feeling in his left leg for accelerating and braking whilst the right was more or less in and out for clutch . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2021 5 hours ago, PatB said: Given that centre throttle pedal arrangements were de rigeur on very sporting machinery in the 1920s and 30s, methinks the little Fordson had ideas well above its station. More mundane than that. To increase the load space the engine was moved to the left and the driver moved forward. As the engine was the 10hp unit from the Prefect car the throttle linkage from the car was used and was moved leftwards as well which meant that the brake pedal had to go on the right. This as can be imagined was a cause of many accidents so it was changed to a more conventional arrangement in 1948. As an aside left hand drive versions retained the central accelerator to the end of production. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javlinfaw7 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Jeep in civilian use as puppet theatre at Blackpool in the 1950's screenshot from the Look at Life ,why all the rush documentary 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 50s Road vehicles in general, something often neglected on layouts (presumably due to a dearth of rtp models, is the utilitarian sidecar outfit. I'm aware it's possible to get AA/RAC combos, but the window cleaner's "float" or the massive, double adult saloon used as family transport, both attached to some wheezy sidevalve workhorse would have been relatively common. Given that the aforementioned AA outfits will provide a ready made BSA M21 "tug", and a sidecar chassis, much of the modelling work is already done. 1950s sidecar bodies, being made largely of plywood (oh yes they were; contrary to what the classic bike world would have us believe, elegant torpedo shaped Steibs were a rarity) , would not be a challenging scratchbuild in styrene sheet. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Actually 1930s, but the sidecar probably wouldn't look that out of place in a 1950s setting. My paternal grand parents that I never met. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: Actually 1930s, but the sidecar probably wouldn't look that out of place in a 1950s setting. My paternal grand parents that I never met. I used to have a not dissimilar shot of my maternal grandparents. I'm pretty sure I've still got it, but it's "somewhere". Probably next to the photos I know I have of my paternal grandparents, father and aunt aboard the much more imposing outfit that my grandfather had c1950. A V-twin Matchless Model X with almost double adult sidecar (it was built to contain my grandmother and aunt, neither of whom were large), the body of which was built in the front bedroom of No 2 High Jobs Hill, Crook, and extracted via the window. More prosaically, stuff like this would have been common in those pre-Mini days. I know the Busmar ad is 1960s, but I'm pretty sure that egg shaped design had been around for a decade by then, though possibly with larger, spoked wheel. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) I seem to recall sidecars advertised with up to five seats (2 adults 3 children). A neighbour had one such sidecar but as I recall the panels were hardboard not plywood. It was of rather flimsy construction and would probably be regarded as unsafe today. This was because of the weight limitation for sidecar combinations of 7 cwt. Any more and it was taxed as a car. Edited June 22, 2021 by PhilJ W 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Here is a weird one.Dated 1954 and a British Ford in shot.Photo by Otto C Perry . Denver Public Library 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 You could also drive a sidecar on a provisional licence and any capacity bike .This was greatly abused by yobbos driving large bikes with weight on the sidecar frame .I even saw a Gold Star rigged up by a twerp going to the 59 Club, L plated flapping in the wind .We sold a nice Bonnie which ended up the same .Brought tears to the eyes . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, friscopete said: Here is a weird one.Dated 1954 and a British Ford in shot.Photo by Otto C Perry . Denver Public Library Some British style Fords were sold in the US, such as this "Squire" which I found in the Auto Museum in Hershey a few years back.... Edited June 27, 2021 by Johann Marsbar 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 hours ago, friscopete said: Here is a weird one.Dated 1954 and a British Ford in shot.Photo by Otto C Perry . Denver Public Library US servicemen in the UK could order LH drive British Fords and ship them home at the end of their tour. Also many models not normally sold in the US were available in Canada. The BMC Farina saloons and estates for example. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I thought I'd got a photo of another one over in the US, though, as this one doesn't have the minimalist wooden trim, its just a "Ford Escort" ! This one was in one of the museums at "Antique Powerland" in Brooks, Oregon in 2017. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted June 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2021 The smaller British Fords were exported to the US up until 1959. Vauxhall F type Victors were marketed under the Plymouth brand for a few years in the late 50's. Standard 10's were marketed as the Triumph TR10 in both saloon and estate versions until replaced by the Herald which was also sold in the US. Austin used to have a big market where the A40 Devon was quite popular even leading to the two door Dorset version designed originally for the US market. They also produced the Metropolitan for Nash using the A50 underpinnings but this was never sold under the Austin badge. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fodenway Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Vauxhalls would not have been sold through Plymouth agencies - Plymouth was a Chrysler Corporation division. Buick and Pontiac, both part of General Motors, as was Vauxhall, handled their sales in the USA. Canada also had the same arrangement, except that there was additionally a locally-assembled variant, the Envoy Standard, which was sold through Chevrolet dealerships. The Envoy was basically a Victor F Type with a different grille, and did not carry Vauxhall badging. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 The shape of the Morris Minor was due to the need to meet Californian lighting rules. In the post WW2 period Britain was desperate to export and the US manufacturers could not keep up with demand for cars. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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