Popular Post KeithMacdonald Posted October 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 D6323 with three milk wagons and an egg box van? Beside the Express Dairy and Egg Depot at Seaton Junction. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 Llynclys Quarry Branch, Oswestry 1973 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: and an egg box van? Brake van, I think, although it may also have carried eggs for all I know. it looks like one of the Stanier 50ft BGs, which were common on milk trains up to London. Edited October 22, 2022 by Nearholmer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: Brake van, I think, although it may also have carried eggs for all I know. it looks like one of the Stanier 50ft BGs, which were common on milk trains up to London. Is it? Or is it a LMS 6wh BZ? Also popular as brake vans on West Country milks. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) I considered that possibility, but I think I can see the glint of two axle boxes on a bogie. Think, mind you, not swear; it could be the glint of two spring hangers. Edited October 22, 2022 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: I considered that possibility, but I think I can see the glint of two axle boxes on a bogie. Think, mind you, not swear; it could be the glint of two spring hangers. Yes OK, I thought it looked too short but there looks like there are two lights between the double doors and the look out, and it has less roof ventilators than a BZ. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Llynclys Quarry Branch, Oswestry 1973 what fascinates me about this pic is if you look on street view the later crossing signage is still in place, I do vaguely remember the tracks still being in situ in about 1988-89 too, it’s on a bend too so I could imagine coming round the corner at speed only to see a train in the road would have been a bit of a squeaky bum moment! Edited October 23, 2022 by big jim 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 We encountered something similar in France, dense woods both sides of the road, tiny and very discreet “crossbucks”, and then a whopping great loco (actually quite small by French standards) and a string of timber wagons crept out of the hedge into the middle of the road. Fortunately the road was straight, with good sighting distances. When we got close, it was possible to see an old crossing keeper’s house among the trees, but the track was completely obscured by tall grass. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, big jim said: what fascinates me about this pic is if you look on street view the later crossing signage is still in place, I do vaguely remember the tracks still being in situ in about 1988-89 too, it’s on a bend too so I could imagine coming round the corner at speed only to see a train in the road would have been a bit of a squeaky bum moment! Tracks are still there; periodically the road gets new tarmac over them, but wear and tear means the rails still show after a bit. Cambrian Heritage Railways want to reopen the line, but they're not allowed to have this level crossing. I gather they've been told it needs replacing with a bridge. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted October 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2022 I see on Google Street View that the crossing signs are still in situ at Helland on the Wenford branch too along with the rails in the road but the branch i, of course, lifted. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Associated Octel Ltd, Amlwch 1991 by Adrian Nicholls 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEngineShed Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Ben B said: Tracks are still there; periodically the road gets new tarmac over them, but wear and tear means the rails still show after a bit. Cambrian Heritage Railways want to reopen the line, but they're not allowed to have this level crossing. I gather they've been told it needs replacing with a bridge. That is just crazy, the need for a bridge. Its not like a heritage railway will be running HSTs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, TheEngineShed said: That is just crazy, the need for a bridge. Its not like a heritage railway will be running HSTs... Council passing the buck. Why don't THEY build a bridge over the railway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) On balance, if this was near where I lived, I’d rather have all the railway enthusiasts run cake stalls or whatever to raise the funds, than pay for it through council tax, which can’t stretch far enough to cover the things the council is already obliged to provide. Edited October 23, 2022 by Nearholmer 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, 33C said: Council passing the buck. Why don't THEY build a bridge over the railway? Money? Councils aren't exactly flush with it and there are arguably far more deserving causes that are well ahead in line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, hexagon789 said: Money? Councils aren't exactly flush with it and there are arguably far more deserving causes that are well ahead in line. That was a bit tongue in cheek! But if a line opens and brings in jobs and tourism, it's good for everyone surely. Trouble is, people are afraid to make the leap, speculate to accumulate I say...quick to point out the problems but slooooow with a solution. Claim the expenses and hope to be voted in next polling day..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, 33C said: That was a bit tongue in cheek! But if a line opens and brings in jobs and tourism, it's good for everyone surely. Trouble is, people are afraid to make the leap, speculate to accumulate I say...quick to point out the problems but slooooow with a solution. Claim the expenses and hope to be voted in next polling day..... I think I was a bit harsh worded there, but I'm thinking of basic practicalities. While I too would dearly love to see all the projects come to fruition, councils just don't have the cash to spare. Many have closed libraries, leisure centres or reduced hours, cut back on road maintenance etc. It might be fairer at present to at the very least have the railway at least partly fund such a project through donations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEngineShed Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I was questioning the need for a bridge, either railway or road. What would be wrong with lights and a crossing gate? Seems far cheaper than a bridge, and it is hard to believe the road traffic would be disrupted with a couple of closures an hour, if there would even by that much rail traffic. Heritage Railways don't operate much in the winter anyway... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheEngineShed said: I was questioning the need for a bridge, either railway or road. What would be wrong with lights and a crossing gate? Seems far cheaper than a bridge, and it is hard to believe the road traffic would be disrupted with a couple of closures an hour, if there would even by that much rail traffic. Heritage Railways don't operate much in the winter anyway... Exactly, but they will quote "'elf 'n' safty", chapter and verse. I could rant about councils and the way they spend our money for a week but I think we should leave it there and get back to the cracking photo's from Flickr! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted October 23, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2022 I don't think new level crossings are allowed, are they? And I think that's the right way to go. Modern roads & rail don't really mix, and car drivers keep showing time & again that they can't use them safely. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Thing is, at Llynclys it's a tricky spot for a bridge; I don't think from memory that theres room with the nearby houses for either road or railway to have new, high approach embankments. It would be a vast capital outlay for 4 pacers or a barclay tank+3 mk.1's a day in the summer... It's probably academic anyway, as the more pressing concern is nearer Oswestry, where the mothballed line crosses a bypass on the level. Sorting that out gives the railway a link to a mainline interchange at Gobowen, and will probably take 2 decades and cost many millions to do. As regards Llynclys though, I can't imagine a rebuilt level crossing will be any more dangerous than the nearby crossroads, which in my experience can be pretty damned lethal, and despite the traffic whizzing by there seems to have no requirement for traffic lights... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, rodent279 said: I don't think new level crossings are allowed, are they? And I think that's the right way to go. Modern roads & rail don't really mix, and car drivers keep showing time & again that they can't use them safely. There is no outright ban, but the standards required now means that arguably building a bridge is easier than going through all the necessary legal stages. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinRS Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 hours ago, hexagon789 said: There is no outright ban, but the standards required now means that arguably building a bridge is easier than going through all the necessary legal stages. The Office of Rail and Road (which I just found out about) has a case study for 'Heritage level crossings' and has a policy for 'New or reinstated level crossings'. I don't have time to watch/read either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 Haltwhistle Station 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, montyburns56 said: Haltwhistle Station That gantry is a piece of art in itself. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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